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[PARTIALLY FIXED v1.11] Flickering Unit Status - 11/2/2015 8:20:48 PM   
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Status: offline 		Somewhere in between the various 1.09 RC versions, an intermittent and very annoying flicker of the Unit Status display developed on my machine.

I did not play often, in the last few months, so I cannot say for sure exactly when it started.
I'm playing now version 757.9 and, in the right column, the Unit Status display flickers noticeably when the game is unpaused (once every few seconds). Group Weapons, just below, is unaffected.

I'm running Windows 10 in a virtual machine on a Mac (vmware fusion).
While my setup is peculiar, I must say I'm running Command on this machine since the beta releases, and never had any problems with flickering -- or any other issue, by the way..

Glad to know if someone else experienced this behaviour or have any suggestion on the issue

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RE: Flickering Unit Status - 1/12/2016 6:52:30 PM   
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RE: Flickering Unit Status - 1/13/2016 7:53:08 AM   
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Status: offline 		I'm definitely still experiencing it, on 757.12, really annoying.

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RE: Flickering Unit Status - 1/13/2016 4:23:19 PM   
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Status: offline 		Hmmmm okay I'll take a look... Does it happen more in some scens than other? Or for certain units? (Ships vs aircraft?) There might be some refreshing going on that is only visible in certain cases.



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RE: Flickering Unit Status - 1/14/2016 7:39:06 PM   
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Hmmmm okay I'll take a look... Does it happen more in some scens than other? Or for certain units? (Ships vs aircraft?) There might be some refreshing going on that is only visible in certain cases.


Tutorials 1 - Exeter surface group selected, unit status flickers about 1 time per second, very annoying.

Tutorials 2 - Air base selected, no flicker; Air group (on strike mission) selected, flickering only once in several seconds.

Hope it helps..

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RE: Flickering Unit Status - 1/14/2016 9:30:47 PM   
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Status: offline 		Hi, I'm witnessing the same problem. I just finished installing Command on my new rig which runs with Windows 10. Didn't encountered such problems with Windows 7 on my laptop. It appears to happen to all units in all scenarios (I randomly loaded around 15 scenarios and ran them for three seconds). Might have something to do with the OS, I don't know. Hope this helps!

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RE: Flickering Unit Status - 1/16/2016 12:18:39 AM   
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RE: Flickering Unit Status - 1/25/2016 7:33:04 AM   
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Status: offline 		Is this still happening with v1.10 RC1 ?

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RE: Flickering Unit Status - 1/26/2016 4:53:29 PM   
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RE: Flickering Unit Status - 1/26/2016 10:08:27 PM   
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Status: offline 		I'm still seeing it, if somehow attenuated.

In the example above (uncle bob's tutorial #1), group now flickers once in 5 - 10 seconds (was much worse than that).

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RE: Flickering Unit Status - 3/13/2016 5:45:35 PM   
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Status: offline 		As an update, I've recently completed these steps:

- re-installed Command, updated to v. 1.10
- in the process, re-installed Directx
- updated to the last version of vmware fusion
- fiddled a lot with win10 & vmware optimization tips

Net result, the flicker is still there, no difference.

I gather from the thread's title that something new is coming in version 1.11 to help ease this problem.

I'm available to test any beta or rc release whenever it becomes available, if this is of any help (I'm one of the original beta testers, btw).

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RE: Flickering Unit Status - 3/13/2016 7:00:35 PM   
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Status: offline 		The first Release Candidate will be out soon, will be interesting to hear if the problem has been fixed

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RE: Flickering Unit Status - 3/15/2016 12:50:11 PM   
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Status: offline 		Sorry, 1.11B802 and flickering is still there, if not worse

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RE: Flickering Unit Status - 3/15/2016 9:22:10 PM   
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Status: offline 		Bummer.

Can you describe the flickering in v1.11 please? Does it blink once every second? Whenever data changes? Anything else worth noting?

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RE: Flickering Unit Status - 3/19/2016 5:02:00 PM   
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Status: offline 		The flickering is clearly the result of a redraw of the Unit Status box, or a good part of it, while a friendly unit or group is selected.
I think of the unit image as the most probable culprit.

It seems to me that the Unit Weapons box is redraw also, but the thing is barely visible at all..

The flicker does not seem to be linked to some visible event (i.e. not something logged in the log window).
AFAIK no map visibility toggle affects it (range circles, etc.)

It is unfrequent if game speed is left to 1:1.
It becames evident if game acceleration is turned on, even at the lowest settings.

The box is redraw about once in 2-10 seconds, I cannot see a pattern.

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RE: Flickering Unit Status - 3/19/2016 6:20:13 PM   
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Status: offline 		Interesting, thanks!

Do you use No-Pulse mode in time compression?

Could you try to disable unit image and see if the flickering stops?

Could you also try to disable High-Fidelity mode. Any changes?

And finally, disable No-Pulse mode. Any improvements?



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RE: Flickering Unit Status - 3/25/2016 9:29:17 AM   
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Status: offline 		Have made an attempt to fix this in B806. Please let me know if it worked

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RE: Flickering Unit Status - 3/25/2016 10:00:27 AM   
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Status: offline 		Update (B805): I have been using no-pulse mode for all the test. Switching to pulsed mode, the flickering is still there, but it's much less frequent.
Toggling HD mode does not have such an evident result.

quote:

ORIGINAL: emsoy

Have made an attempt to fix this in B806. Please let me know if it worked


Sure, as soon as I grab it. Thanks for your efforts fixing this really "niche" issue..

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RE: Flickering Unit Status - 4/2/2016 9:52:09 PM   
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Status: offline 		The flickering is still an issue. I don't believe it is related to Direct-X, game settings, OS, etc. It can be mitigated by manually changing the offending contact's status to something other than whatever it's currently set at (neutral, friendly, hostile, etc.) Typically if a side goes hostile and some units, mostly airborne, are "unknown" they flicker.

I'm on 64 bit Windows 10 Home, i7-4790/8GB RAM/etc. with most options "on." It doesn't matter if they're off. The issue persists.

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RE: Flickering Unit Status - 4/3/2016 3:44:22 PM   
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Status: offline 		Hmmm weird...

Any chance you could make a video & explanation? Just so that I can see the same things that you do?

Thanks!

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RE: Flickering Unit Status - 4/4/2016 10:36:31 AM   
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The flickering is still an issue. I don't believe it is related to Direct-X, game settings, OS, etc. It can be mitigated by manually changing the offending contact's status to something other than whatever it's currently set at (neutral, friendly, hostile, etc.) Typically if a side goes hostile and some units, mostly airborne, are "unknown" they flicker.

I'm on 64 bit Windows 10 Home, i7-4790/8GB RAM/etc. with most options "on." It doesn't matter if they're off. The issue persists.

Is the scenario using multiple sides, with some allied to each other? The units switching between neutral, unfriendly, etc, may not necessarily be a problem - it may be displaying the status of one side, and then the allied side.
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The original issue here was the 'Unit Status' screen flickering from memory. Your problem seems to be related to the units on map 'flickering' between contact statuses??

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RE: Flickering Unit Status - 4/4/2016 10:27:19 PM   
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Status: offline 		The flickering I see is on the group/unit map. Contacts will change between "unknown" and "unfriendly" or any other combo.

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RE: Flickering Unit Status - 4/4/2016 10:31:26 PM   
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Status: offline 		Emsoy,

I'll make a video next time it happens and post it here. I'll try to explain what's going on in the scenario too.

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RE: Flickering Unit Status - 4/5/2016 6:11:42 AM   
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ORIGINAL: schweggy

The flickering I see is on the group/unit map. Contacts will change between "unknown" and "unfriendly" or any other combo.


That should have been fixed in the latest RC

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