MikeMarchant_ssl
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ORIGINAL: fogrob Don't forget guys, as suggested by idjester, you can use Teamviewer to play multiplayer until a better solution comes along. I really don't think Teamviewer is the answer here. For people who know each other really well and trust each other, perhaps. But this is not the sort of multi-player that the vast majority of gamers are going to have any interest in and so won't provide the long term interest in the game than any game needs to survive outside a small group of hardcore players. I'd also like to add a note of serious caution here. I don't know if any children (ie under 18s) play this game, but if they do they are putting themselves at risk if they use Teamviewer. If we're to be responsible we do not want to be encouraging young people to be using Teamviewer with people they may think they can trust, but lack adequate judgement and restraint to make a responsible decision about that. As someone involved in child safety issues I can assure you that if there was an unfortunate incident as a result of this, the media would slaughter TotH and everyone involved in encouraging the use of Teamviewer with it. Please remember, the media are not fair, they are not responsible, and they do not care how many innocent people they hurt. I think advocating the use of Teamviewer is not only irresponsible, but also very dangerous. Best Wishes Mike I was going to say I 'thought' that was excessive (the child safety issues), but decided, NO, that IS excessive. No, really. Child safety issues? Children playing Tigers on the Hunt? Really. First some REAL world facts. Most 'children' will know more about their computer than the average geriatric war gamer. Most parents will likely know less about computer safety than today's youths. And you think they can't play a war game safely with a program like Teamviewer? Yeah my son is likely still behind me when it comes to actually physically building the darned computer, but, it's been years since I taught him squat. He teaches ME now. But the funniest part if getting a 'child' to play TotH. Oh really. Spare me any comments about how you might have accomplished this wondrous feat. It doesn't provide a basis for a sweeping declaration of child safety issues. It's a war game for old men (and a couple of women). I can't say I am aware of ANY war game I could get a person under 30 to play actually. And to me 30 somethings are kids for that matter. If you don't like the TeamViewer notion, just say it. I really get disgusted when people use the "think of the children" garbage. Most children are smarter and more open minded than most of the adult world. I'm all for children playing TotH if they want to, the more the merrier, I don't have any concerns about that. What I do have concerns about is children being encouraged to open up their computers with Teamviewer. You might be quite convinced that there are no children playing this game, I don't know that for a fact, and even if it is today, will it still be true tomorrow? The idea that all children are totally computer savvy is absolute nonsense. I work with a lot of children who can play games, use Facebook, and even perform all sort of clever tricks they've learnt from friends or from YouTube videos, but who have very little understanding of computers otherwise. Perhaps you only have contact with highly educated kids, but real world fact is that children are exploited and abused online every single day, precisely because they are not as computer savvy as you imagine. I don't dislike the notion of Teamviewer, it's a case of horses for courses. I wouldn't use it personally, unless I knew the other player very, very well and trusted them completely, it is not something I'd use with casual friends or online acquaintances. It is also, as I have already said, a security risk, and that includes both adults and children. It just happens to be the case that at the moment we are very sensitive to online threats to children, much more so than adults. The point I've made before about multiplayer and that contributing to the longevity of the game relates to the ease with which the average player can access it. I am happy to accept that Teamviewer is a perfectly adequate solution for some gamers, but I don't think the vast majority of players (needed for the long term success of the game) will use it, and so it isn't a viable solution for that purpose. Children are no more or less smart than adults, but you're right to say they are more open minded, and while this is an asset in many contexts, it can also be a threat. If children were so smart and so able to protect themselves as you describe then we'd have no need for child protection at all. That's a world I would very much like to live in, but sadly I have to live in this world. I also dislike the cry of 'think of the children' when it is misplaced, but it is not always misplaced; it is sometimes very apt. Best Wishes Mike
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