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[FIXED B810] Sometimes, ZSU-23-4 can not be destroyed b... - 4/4/2016 6:22:11 AM

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Wait for 4x AGM-88s hit ZSU-23-4 (only ONE remained before HARMs impacted)
Although log show ZSU-23-4 destroyed four times, it is still operational.

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RE: [B809] ZSU-23-4 is not destroyed - 4/4/2016 6:24:02 AM

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After impacted

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RE: [B809] ZSU-23-4 is not destroyed - 4/4/2016 6:44:04 AM

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First time is indeed all missiles only destroy one Shilka, because those HARMs are only sighted one of the Gun Dish, and will not redirect to the next emission when destroyed. They all only headed toward one emitter as far as these Phantom detected.

Second salvo of HARMs can take the second Shilka out.

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RE: [B809] ZSU-23-4 is not destroyed - 4/4/2016 7:10:54 AM

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Hmmm yeah... IIRC the HARMs will not switch target unless it is positive the original one has been hit. So it will use the ARM target memory to impact close to the intended radar. It takes 15 sec or so to switch to a new one.

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RE: [B809] ZSU-23-4 is not destroyed - 4/4/2016 7:21:20 AM

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"First time is indeed all missiles only destroy one Shilka"

Please check Shilka before HARMs hit. There is only one Shilka remained.

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RE: [B809] ZSU-23-4 is not destroyed - 4/4/2016 7:24:31 AM

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Ooh, now that is abnormal. Doesn't realized one of the shilka is already destroyed.

Well, gotta need a diagnosis.

UPDATE: Indeed, something strange, when I load the savegame again and fire the second salvo of HARM, they are scored the hit, but still not killing the other Shilka. Beforetime it was a full-kill and was presumed cause by emission.

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RE: [B809] ZSU-23-4 is not destroyed - 4/4/2016 1:20:30 PM

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HARM's , AARGM's and ALARM's too, can't take out an whole (2x)unit AAA (zsu), or small SAM (sa-13, sa-15) target,
first one gets destroyed normally but very small hit points on unit's second vehicle, 0.1 - 0.7 DP's.

After a whole ARM's volley (4x,8x), often one vehicle of AAA/SAM out two survived , unit's 2nd vehicle just small damage to sensors (LLTV,etc), but not radar!.

But on the other hand , radars from larger(advanced) sam's get hit very nicely , hard, but can be totally destroyed. (sa-6 ,-10,...) .. there's just single radar acq/fcr pair. In these smaller aaa , sam's are 2 pairs, hence 2Xunit.

Ha!, actually , maybe second unit just got 'sprayed' from entire valley, because of leftovers of ARM's memory , whole volley hits only the first one ...
so 2nd is not really hit at all..

It seems those 2Xunits are worth checking, looks like somehow targeting is referred to the 1st vehicle of the unit even if destroyed, so the 2nd vehicle
takes only bits of damage.

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RE: [B809] ZSU-23-4 is not destroyed - 4/5/2016 1:25:22 AM

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Added to our list of things to look at. Thanks to all who provide reports and files. Very helpful!

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RE: [B809] ZSU-23-4 is not destroyed - 4/5/2016 7:49:51 AM

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Found a weakness which I fixed in B810, thanks

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