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RE: July 27, 1943 - 4/20/2016 12:21:52 AM   
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I have no objections to lots of responses to my post . . . but WHERE did you get that emoji?


Who else is old enough to remember when they were called applets?

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RE: July 27, 1943 - 4/20/2016 1:06:55 AM   
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I have no objections to lots of responses to my post . . . but WHERE did you get that emoji?


Who else is old enough to remember when they were called applets?


I easily achieve that goal, and am old enough to have grown up using a rotary phone, programmed used IBM punch cards, and know how to tune a set of rabbit ear antennas using tin foil.

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RE: July 27, 1943 - 4/20/2016 4:18:01 AM   
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I personally don't think John could have attacked somewhere else and scored as many permanent VP as he did in fighting at Sabang.

Perth is a place where you can sometimes destroy quite a few land combat units. Burma and southern India is another.





The Allies do not need all of the LCU that they have at their disposal anyways. Sumatra was a big loss but the Japanese player need do one thing and one thing only to insure a chance at victory. That is he must kill some Allied carriers while he can. Otherwise the Allies are in prime shape come 1/44. It does not matter if you have 40 divisions or 140. Once command of the sea is given over they are of much less value. For this reason, I think targeting a large kill of LCU should be secondary to the primary purpose of killing American carriers. If the Allies don't lose their carriers in 42-43 then they have come out smelling like a rose in my opinion. I can compensate for the loss of six divisions but not for the loss of six carriers. My two cents from the Allied side.

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RE: July 27, 1943 - 4/20/2016 5:18:43 AM   
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I personally don't think John could have attacked somewhere else and scored as many permanent VP as he did in fighting at Sabang.

Perth is a place where you can sometimes destroy quite a few land combat units. Burma and southern India is another.





The Allies do not need all of the LCU that they have at their disposal anyways. Sumatra was a big loss but the Japanese player need do one thing and one thing only to insure a chance at victory. That is he must kill some Allied carriers while he can. Otherwise the Allies are in prime shape come 1/44. It does not matter if you have 40 divisions or 140. Once command of the sea is given over they are of much less value. For this reason, I think targeting a large kill of LCU should be secondary to the primary purpose of killing American carriers. If the Allies don't lose their carriers in 42-43 then they have come out smelling like a rose in my opinion. I can compensate for the loss of six divisions but not for the loss of six carriers. My two cents from the Allied side.


I will politely disagree. It is about vp. Unfortunately, most JFBs don't know how to fight the deathstar & get crushed.. Including me, but I think that is changing.


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RE: July 27, 1943 - 4/20/2016 8:22:38 AM   
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Dan and I got in FIVE turns today. Just sent the orders turn for AUGUST 1, 1943. Nothing much to report. He has moved some shipping back into the Marshalls and I have two small TF of DDs moving in for some action.

My PH SS might have gotten a sniff of a northward movement. We'll see if the warships encounter my picket line of AKs.

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Knife Fighting - 4/20/2016 3:33:26 PM   
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The month begins on a hopeful note as the Japanese knife fighters prove that they can still play with the best and most modern the Americans have to offer. Two groups of DDs make successful attacks in the Marshalls. Better yet, NONE are sunk or even seriously damaged.

Mili 4 DD vs a convoy guarded by USS Ward. Two AK sunk and Ward smacked. ALL four of my stupid DDs expel their TTs at the Ward.

Jaliut 5 DDs vs 5 US DDs. The Long Lances fly immediately and sink USS Strong while damaging another.

All nine DDs to concentrate at Kusaie and await Shimakaze when they'll take another stab at shipping.






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Knife Fighting - 4/21/2016 4:01:15 PM   
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The waters begin to turn decidedly HOSTILE in the Marshalls and Gilberts. IJN Musashi and Nagato with a large coterie of CLs and DDs enter the western Marshalls. The BB's are loaded for bombardment and plan to strike Mili. This is the apparent main base of the Allies loaded with fighters and shipping.

To the North--Kido Butai--sorties from Marcus and slowly (cruise speed) moves SE towards the theatre of operations.

To the South, the 8 CVEs of Japan finish refuelling at Rabaul and move towards Tulagi.

The Kaigun is about to make its presence felt...


At Singapore 3 Kongo-Class Battlecruisers finish their upgrades. The fourth--Kirishima--will be done in two days. These veteran monsters shall set course for the Aleutians...


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RE: Knife Fighting - 4/21/2016 4:09:25 PM   
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August 6, 1943 - 4/23/2016 5:46:40 AM   
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The big BAD bruisers move into enemy waters and decide to NOT make their bombardment run. Instead the Task Force decides to cruise in circles directly south of Jaliut. Why do they do this? I don't know. Perhaps it is an unscheduled test of the 3.9" AA Batteries. Makes no sense but this is what the game elects to do.

Dawn:

An escort of 18 Zeros fly overhead and everyone knows it will not be enough. The American raids begin with a Squadron of Avengers coming in. I panic fearing Torps but no. They carry bombs. Three more raids come in bringing a total of 36 DB of varying types. Musashi takes 6 500/1,000lb bombs and Nagato gets 5.

Afternoon:

Storms close in around the TF but the raids occur once more. This time Nagato gets smacked by 6 bombs and Musashi an amazing 12 more. YIKES!

Thankfully nothing else is hit.

The point of the obvious bombardment was to force the vulnerable Allied shipping away from their CAP. The plan works here. Raids by Japanese Betty and Jills account for a DE and 3 nice new AK. A Japanese I-Boat adds another AK to the total.

With a sense of great trepidation, I open the turn to look at Musashi and Nagato and am pleasantly happy (all things being equal) with the totals:

Nagato has 25 Sys, 18(6) Flot, and 24 Engine. Only the (6) Flot is major damage.
Musashi suffers 32 Sys, 18(6) Flot, and 20(8) Engine.

Looks like we need a bunch of brooms and a CRAPLOAD of Battleship Grey paint! While depressing damage for no result, it isn't bad. They shall retire to Truk and sit out for a month licking their wounds. The Admiral Commanding the TF has been sacked for absolute STUPIDITY!


Meanwhile...
Kido Butai moves slowly east near Wake. They are undetected...
The CVEs are near Tabitueau and also undetected...

Just out for a stroll. Don't mind the Flattops. Just sweet and innocent flightdecks. REALLY!





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August 6, 1943 - 4/23/2016 3:44:18 PM   
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Status: offline 		Here was my note to Dan this morning:

Further clarification on that Broom and Paint Order:
1. The brooms need to be the big whisk broom variety. We have a BUNCH of shell casings and shards laying around the decks and tower. Very dangerous for the crew to step on or trip over.
2. As to the paint, we think the US Navy paint is a little too blue. Please make sure it is more grey then blue. Much appreciated there.

The order has been put together and sent by Adm Kono’s Chief-of-Staff because the Admiral has been in seclusion considering committing Seppuku due to STUPIDLY deciding to circle his TF just south of Jaliut and do a ‘field test’ of our newly installed 3.9” AA guns. Quite gracious of him to do that just for your planes to get some operational testing of their own. Our bet is on him not surviving the night!



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August 7, 1943 - 4/23/2016 3:45:35 PM   
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Status: offline 		We get a convoy carrying three Base Forces to Amchitka and find out that the Americans can throw away their airframes as well. The convoy unloads but loses 3 AK and an LSD in exchange for this:






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August 8, 1943 - 4/23/2016 3:47:38 PM   
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Status: offline 		As hoped for, the CVEs near Tabitueau are spotted and the clarion call of 'Enemy Carriers' rings out! Let us see what Mr. Roper does.

The Kido Butai slips past Wake by four hexes and is not seen...


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RE: August 8, 1943 - 4/23/2016 3:49:19 PM   
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Nothing in the game has more unexpected outcomes.

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RE: August 8, 1943 - 4/23/2016 4:12:33 PM   
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Status: offline 		STUPID! I watched the approach and had TWO that should have gone in. Neither did and I now have two BBs needing some AR time at either Truk or Rabaul. He has moved Liberators into Maleolap and I have to worry about Port Strikes. Might look at setting Saipan up as my 'rear area' base with ARs and AKEs...



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RE: August 7, 1943 - 4/23/2016 6:14:02 PM   
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Status: offline 		That's pretty good shooting against 2nd generation allied fighters. Also interesting to note no torpedo planes

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RE: August 7, 1943 - 4/23/2016 9:43:38 PM   
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That's pretty good shooting against 2nd generation allied fighters. Also interesting to note no torpedo planes


He ran into a stacked CAP of Tony at 31K, George at 26K, and A6M4 at 16K. It worked pretty well. I had roughly 15 of each planes type over that convoy.

He has Avengers in the Marshalls but no Command HQ for Torps--thankfully--so none were dropped. There was not Command HQ/Air Force HQ seen in any of the Aleutian landings.


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RE: August 7, 1943 - 4/23/2016 11:52:00 PM   
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Status: offline 		The CVEs are spotted again as they 'trail' their coats for the Allies to see.

NOTE: Mr. Roper has weakness in his air search near Wake.

Kido Butai is a complete surprise until SS Snapper raises its periscope and fires a pair of fish at CVL Ryujo near Wake. They miss but might be safe to say the word is now out. Let us see what his reaction shall be. Turn the bows SE and move in...


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August 8, 1943 - 4/24/2016 1:06:35 AM   
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Status: offline 		We'll see how strong of action my opponent takes but this is what shall happen tomorrow. The Kido Butai in two TF moves SE as shown. The CVE TF moves NE and ends as shown.

In this old version of RA, here is the Japanese Fleet in August 1943 without taking any losses to date:

Kido Butai-1 Fast TF at 31 Knots
Shokaku/Zuikaku
Hiryu/Soryu
Renkaku/Taikaku/Ryukaku
CB Ikoma, 2 CA, 2 CL, 10 DDs

TOTAL: 525 Planes--168 M5b Zero, 211 Judy, 138 Jill, and 9 Recon Judy

Kido Butai-2 Slow at 26 Knots
Akagi/Kaga
Hiyo
Chitose/Chiyoda/Nisshin/Mizuho
Ryujo/Zuiho/Shoho
3 CA, 1 CL, 10 Dd

TOTAL: 404 Planes--248 M5b Zero, 75 Judy, and 81 Jill

Kido Butai: 929--416 Zero, 286 Judy, 219 Jill, and 9 Recon Judy


CVE TF
8 CVE and 9 DD

TOTAL: 219--83 M5b Zero, 36 Judy, and 57 Jill

Those are the ships and the numbers for this point in a version of RA that is 3+ years old...





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RE: August 8, 1943 - 4/25/2016 12:38:32 AM   
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Status: offline 		This is probably going to be your last opportunity to strike the Allied CVs before they become too powerful. Love the idea of coming down from that open northern flank which has been the bane of many AFBs before. Too bad they've been spotted though...seems unlikely you'll get the battle you want.

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Boring... - 4/28/2016 3:54:12 PM   
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Been a very boring set of turns recently but that looks to be changing. Emily spot a set of approaching American TFs including APAs and CVs. Looks like they are 2-3 days from Rio Namur or Kwajalein. The entire Japanese Fleet can be there in TWO. Time to polish and sharpen the spears one more time...

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RE: Boring... - 4/28/2016 6:38:07 PM   
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August 18, 1943 - 4/29/2016 12:24:06 AM   
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Status: offline 		Ummmm...looks like this could be very interesting.

20 B-24 attack Kwajalein and are met by the new 24 A6M8s. The Fighters do quite well shooting down a dozen of the big bombers. There are then sweeps of 9 F4U, 12 P-38, and 12 P-38. Lose eight Zeros but hold out pretty well. He is trying to MSW my MF here and so 48 Judy arrive at Roi Namur.

AV at Kwajalein is 185 and Roi Namur is 165 and climbing. Have 54 Transports flying in elements of the 56th ID. Still got room for 1,000 more troops so they are coming in to help.

Here comes Kido Butai.

My opponent almost always waits a day or two. I think it is in his conservative personality to always think before pulling the final plug for 'go' or 'no go.' He gives me the day. If there is another hesitation tomorrow then we will try to meet this Landing Force at sea and KILL the troops while at sea.

Target is almost certainly Kwajalein and Roi Namur. They have plenty of supply and LOTS of back-up.

Movement:
Truk Admiral Tanaka arrives with the 4 Kongos. They refuel tomorrow.

Rio Namur 5 DD arrive and will sweep in Kwajalein to prevent minesweeping then retire to Kusaie.

Kusaie A TF of 1 CL and 6 DDs arrive.

12 hexes NE Tulagi finds 8 CVEs and 9 DDs moving NE.



"Shall we play a game?"





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RE: August 18, 1943 - 4/29/2016 12:48:21 AM   
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Status: offline 		Good luck John! Hopefully more happens than you fruitlessly losing planes and pilots to cap like will inevitably start happening in the late war. If youre seeking a decisive battle make sure you can get cripples out somehow, you can't afford losses like he can.

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RE: August 18, 1943 - 4/29/2016 1:47:30 AM   
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Truk Admiral Tanaka arrives with the 4 Kongos. They refuel tomorrow.


Weren't those supposed to go to the Aleutians?

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RE: August 18, 1943 - 4/29/2016 5:11:07 AM   
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Truk Admiral Tanaka arrives with the 4 Kongos. They refuel tomorrow.


Weren't those supposed to go to the Aleutians?


Hee-Hee-Hee! I had a hunch that--for once--appears to be correct...

Those BAD BOYS fuel and are now moving SE. I've got a BUNCH of 14" Ammo and I looking to deliver it...


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Exodus, Part TWO - 4/29/2016 5:14:39 AM   
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Status: offline 		Has anyone seen the Battlestar Galactica episode entitled 'Exodus, Part Two?' Well...we may just be acting that one out right now.

Kido Butai moving into strike range.

The 5 DDs sink 3 PT Boats at Kwajalein and will sweep into Maleolap this turn.

CL Nagara and 6 DDs advance from Kuaise to hit anything around Jaliut.

Adm Tanaka departs Truk and heads SE with his strike force.

The CVE's are spotted and they will move up to be one hex south of Tabitueau.



There will be blood next turn...


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RE: Exodus, Part TWO - 4/29/2016 6:33:00 AM   
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Has anyone seen the Battlestar Galactica episode entitled 'Exodus, Part Two?'
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There will be blood next turn...



One of the better dramatic series on TV in the past 20 years.
I have the 4 cds from each season I play occasionally while flipping turns.
5 cds actually as Season 4 was a 2-fer...

Good hunting.

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RE: Exodus, Part TWO - 4/29/2016 12:58:13 PM   
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I am glad to A6M8's out and about! And doing well.

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Exodus, Part TWO - 4/29/2016 2:13:54 PM   
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Status: offline 		Morning turn done and I sent this message:

OK MISTER Roper. I’ve got most of my toys and I am willing to play. IS this the correct sandbox for our play date?

Shoot this back and we’ll get in one more before work.



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Exodus, Part TWO - 4/29/2016 2:24:34 PM   
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Status: offline 		Pull back shot as the Galactica is being CRUSHED by four basestars. Missiles come onto the screen and begin massively impacting one of the four basestars. Camera shifts and shows the Battlestar Pegasus arriving and taking the BAD GUYS by surprise:

Commander (Pegasus) Lee Adama: "OK! Fire up that main battery"

Dwalla: "The Cylons are moving to bracket us."

Adama: "Move us right into the CENTER."

Dwalla: WE won't last long in there."

Adama: (Nods his head yes...)


Should we talk about how the episode ends or just go with it becoming a glosious battle and victory for the Colonials???

BANZAI BABY!


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