[WAD] Radar line of sigh issue b823

Matrix Games Forums

Forums Register Login Photo Gallery Member List Search Calendars FAQ

My Profile Inbox Address Book My Subscription My Forums Log Out

[WAD] Radar line of sigh issue b823

View related threads: (in this forum | in all forums)

Logged in as: Guest

Users viewing this topic: none

Printable Version

All Forums >> [New Releases from Matrix Games] >> Command: Modern Operations series >> Tech Support >> [WAD] Radar line of sigh issue b823

Page: [1]

Message

<< Older Topic Newer Topic >>

[WAD] Radar line of sigh issue b823 - 4/30/2016 6:10:25 AM

Alex170g

Posts: 36
Joined: 10/1/2013
Status: offline

I have notice that the radar line of sight for surface to surface is quite long, the scenario attached is a sovremeny which detects an arleigh burke at +90nm...se photo.

open the scenario attached an speed up to 15 sec, the russian ship will detect the us ship at the edge of the radar detection

Attachment (1)

< Message edited by emsoy -- 4/30/2016 6:48:38 AM >

Post #: 1

RE: Radar line of sigh issue b823 - 4/30/2016 6:12:30 AM

Alex170g

Posts: 36
Joined: 10/1/2013
Status: offline

and now the scnario

Attachment (1)

(in reply to Alex170g)

Post #: 2

RE: Radar line of sigh issue b823 - 4/30/2016 6:46:59 AM

ComDev

Posts: 5735
Joined: 5/12/2006
Status: offline

Yeah the Band Stand is OTH-SW capable, to target SS-N-9/22. Nasty system.

The surface radar range ring also reflects this. You can clearly see the Band Stand arc.

Its a complex sim

Thanks!

< Message edited by emsoy -- 4/30/2016 6:50:22 AM >

_____________________________

Developer "Command: Modern Air/Naval Operations" project!

(in reply to Alex170g)

Post #: 3

RE: Radar line of sigh issue b823 - 4/30/2016 6:50:28 AM

Gizzmoe

Posts: 155
Joined: 8/24/2005
From: Germany
Status: offline

Deleted. Emsoy was quicker :)

< Message edited by Gizzmoe -- 4/30/2016 6:52:23 AM >

(in reply to Alex170g)

Post #: 4

RE: Radar line of sigh issue b823 - 4/30/2016 3:22:54 PM

Dimitris

Posts: 13282
Joined: 7/31/2005
Status: offline

Band Stand (Monolit) is particularly noteworthy in that it combines a C-Band OTH-B emitter and an X-Band OTH-SW emitter in the same system. Someone at the design bureau must have made a huge bet on "we don't need no stinkin' helicopters for OTH targeting!".

_____________________________

Facebook
Twitter

(in reply to Gizzmoe)

Post #: 5

RE: Radar line of sigh issue b823 - 4/30/2016 9:39:09 PM

Patmanaut

Posts: 392
Joined: 1/20/2013
Status: offline

Interesting. I didn�t know OTH surface radars existed aboard ships.
Where can I find more information?
By the way, I�ve found a great picture page from a former HMS Cardiff 1982 war veteran where he clearly illustrates the principles of surface and air radar ranging. Maybe Paul B. knows this guy.
[image][/image]
http://s98.photobucket.com/user/griffiths911/media/001b_zpsf98cded5.jpg.html

Attachment (1)

(in reply to Dimitris)

Post #: 6

RE: Radar line of sigh issue b823 - 4/30/2016 9:58:49 PM

thewood1

Posts: 6529
Joined: 11/27/2005
Status: offline

Google is your friend...

http://www.deftech-ltd.com/defence-products/ship-building/maritime-radarssonars-navigation-equipment/multifunctional-radar-complex-mineral-me

And this is a good general radar site...

http://www.radartutorial.eu/index.en.html

(in reply to Patmanaut)

Post #: 7

RE: Radar line of sigh issue b823 - 5/4/2016 5:58:03 PM

peterc100248

Posts: 94
Joined: 3/21/2016
Status: offline

For those of you so technically inclined, here is a somewhat basic, non-classified lecture series on OTH radar that, I believe, Was presented to an Atlanta IEEE symposium. I'm not an expert on the subject, but as you read this .pdf one should be mindful of antenna considerations. There is a lot of interesting data on coverage vs frequency.

OTH Radar

Edit: I am curious where you found technical data from a real source about the Sovremenny radar. It seems most intelligence sources indicate Russia is selling off it's Sov's to concentrate on the Udaloy (to the Chinese). Something about unreliable propulsion systems.

I do know this from first-hand experience. Overestimating the capabilities of ones adversaries is a well-known tactic used to generate financial backing from politicians reluctant to spend $$$ on defense systems. The real truth is barely available for early Cold War systems, unless you're on a need-to-know.

< Message edited by peterc100248 -- 5/4/2016 6:33:21 PM >

(in reply to thewood1)

Post #: 8