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How do historical wargamers feel about fantasy/ sci fi ... - 5/16/2016 12:13:28 PM   
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RE: How do historical wargamers feel about fantasy/ sci... - 5/16/2016 2:02:40 PM   
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RE: How do historical wargamers feel about fantasy/ sci... - 5/16/2016 2:04:43 PM   
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RE: How do historical wargamers feel about fantasy/ sci... - 5/16/2016 4:08:50 PM   
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me too, I am currently having a blast playing Endless Legends as a break from more historical based games. The good thing about well done fantasy/SF games is they can concentrate on game balance and internal (to the game) logic.

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RE: How do historical wargamers feel about fantasy/ sci... - 5/16/2016 4:15:50 PM   
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I prefer a Fantasy based War Game as it gives me a chance to escape from "real historical war" games. The same with my choice of reading materials. I am sure with the upcoming "Total War: Warhammer" that comes out next week, you will find both types of players playing that game including myself.

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RE: How do historical wargamers feel about fantasy/ sci... - 5/16/2016 4:45:59 PM   
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RE: How do historical wargamers feel about fantasy/ sci... - 5/16/2016 4:51:12 PM   
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ORIGINAL: Cello700

Is it a case of "Noooooo, I can't stand elves, goblins and starships!" or do you think a good game is a good game no matter what the subject matter?


Good question.

I like games that feel plausible. Can be Fantasy/Sci-fi, as long as what happens in the game is commonsensical. Can´t relate to anything that´s too weird or patently absurd.

On the other hand, events that are illogical or simply feel wrong kill a historical game as well for me.

Any theme will do, but I simply can´t stand nonsense.

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RE: How do historical wargamers feel about fantasy/ sci... - 5/16/2016 4:52:43 PM   
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Is it a case of "Noooooo, I can't stand elves, goblins and starships!" or do you think a good game is a good game no matter what the subject matter?
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Yes - the former. Each of course to their own, but I have no interest in space games or make-believe worlds. My interest lies in history [and playing games with an historical flavour].


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RE: How do historical wargamers feel about fantasy/ sci... - 5/16/2016 5:34:25 PM   
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On the other hand, events that are illogical or simply feel wrong kill a historical game as well for me.

History has much of that. This is my favourite part (about Germany):
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And that's not even counting the part where as soon as the plot requires it, they instantly forget about all the racism nonsense and become best buddies with the definitely non-Aryan Japanese.


< Message edited by Matti Kuokkanen -- 5/16/2016 5:36:44 PM >

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RE: How do historical wargamers feel about fantasy/ sci... - 5/16/2016 5:43:58 PM   
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RE: How do historical wargamers feel about fantasy/ sci... - 5/16/2016 6:04:56 PM   
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On the other hand, events that are illogical or simply feel wrong kill a historical game as well for me.

History has much of that.


So much the worse for history.

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RE: How do historical wargamers feel about fantasy/ sci... - 5/16/2016 6:05:29 PM   
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Status: offline 		I am and have been very interested in fantasy games (strategy and rpg) and somewhat less in sci-fi. As others, I enjoy good games. I go in cycles of fantasy - historical depending on what I'm in the mood for in any given period. I have in the last 5-10 years been less interested in FPS or action games of any type, as the frantic pacing just gets tedious after a while. I'm older, but it's not manual dexterity that's a problem, I just prefer a more leisurely pace that doesn't require my attention to be glued to the screen/action constantly.

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RE: How do historical wargamers feel about fantasy/ sci... - 5/16/2016 6:54:00 PM   
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RE: How do historical wargamers feel about fantasy/ sci... - 5/16/2016 6:58:06 PM   
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Status: offline 		I just play historic games, I used to like lord of the rings stuff like when I was in school. The problem with fantasy/ sci-fi games for me that I have to learn to get myself into this unknown created world and sometimes got me confused with other fantasy world. Historic based games are easier for me to grasp and got unto, plus it adds to my knowledge if I don't know well about this period/ location.
I could like futuristic space sci-fi games however, if it feels plausible.
I am sure you guys are enjoying great fantasy/ sci-fi games, and I am sure some are more well designed than a lot of historic based games.

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RE: How do historical wargamers feel about fantasy/ sci... - 5/16/2016 6:58:37 PM   
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I can play any good game no matter what the subject matter!

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me too, I am currently having a blast playing Endless Legends as a break from more historical based games. The good thing about well done fantasy/SF games is they can concentrate on game balance and internal (to the game) logic.


Yes, "Endless Legend" looks great (it's on my wishlist)...it looks like it a war/strategy/civ/space game with fantasy trappings, with tons of game play! For those unfamiliar, here it is...
http://store.steampowered.com/app/289130/

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RE: How do historical wargamers feel about fantasy/ sci... - 5/16/2016 7:25:24 PM   
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Yes, "Endless Legend" looks great (it's on my wishlist)...it looks like it a war/strategy/civ/space game with fantasy trappings, with tons of game play! For those unfamiliar, here it is...
http://store.steampowered.com/app/289130/

So much praise for that game... Is it significantly better than Age of Wonders 3?

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RE: How do historical wargamers feel about fantasy/ sci... - 5/16/2016 7:42:02 PM   
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ORIGINAL: wings7

Yes, "Endless Legend" looks great (it's on my wishlist)...it looks like it a war/strategy/civ/space game with fantasy trappings, with tons of game play! For those unfamiliar, here it is...
http://store.steampowered.com/app/289130/

So much praise for that game... Is it significantly better than Age of Wonders 3?


not tried the other but I really think Endless Legend is the most innovative 4x/Civ style game of the last few years. Some of it is standard but they really have made the factions different, some really interesting gameplay mechanics. So you have a province, can only build one city in that province - really slows spread and eases micro-management.

the fantasy element is carried lightly, some magic - one faction has S&M tendencies that you can use to generate positive events (at a cost to yourself) - but its not really dominant. Being from the UK I find it disturbing that one of the more powerful units looks like Boris Johnson -- this does break the immersion but I can't really blame the (French) designers.

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RE: How do historical wargamers feel about fantasy/ sci... - 5/16/2016 11:14:59 PM   
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I've tried many times to like Alpha Centauri more than Civilization 2 but I can't.

I've got Galactic Civilizations 2 but only played about 5 minutes of it.

I tried Elite on the BBC2 micro, but preferred the flight game where you could go under the bridge. And Bomb Alley about the Falklands. Did they do all that in 32K - you can't get a picture for that these days.

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RE: How do historical wargamers feel about fantasy/ sci... - 5/16/2016 11:54:24 PM   
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I liked FPS type scifi games like Privateer. It's one of my all time favorites.

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RE: How do historical wargamers feel about fantasy/ sci... - 5/16/2016 11:56:25 PM   
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Historical only for me.

I've tried many times to like Alpha Centauri more than Civilization 2 but I can't.

I've got Galactic Civilizations 2 but only played about 5 minutes of it.

I tried Elite on the BBC2 micro, but preferred the flight game where you could go under the bridge. And Bomb Alley about the Falklands. Did they do all that in 32K - you can't get a picture for that these days.

I prefer Alpha C to Civ 2; I wish that Civ: Beyond Earth had lived up to Alpha C!

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RE: How do historical wargamers feel about fantasy/ sci... - 5/17/2016 1:42:35 AM   
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Status: offline 		I'll play anything thats fun, if i had to choose just one it would be historical wargames, WW2. There's a lot of good strategy games that aren't historical. Speaking of Endless Legend i just started playing it and so far its great. I like to play 4X games from time to time and just couldnt get into Civ5 or 4 or 3, last one i really got into was 2 in the civ series. Endless legend so far seems like a very well put together game and fun. The different factions from what i've read play very differently, tac battles are similar to AOW3 but height matters so choosing your battle terrain is important,you can have reinforcements show up and set your units posture for battle, you can customized all your unit builds with equipment and armor if you can afford it. The UI is pretty well layed out and its easy to get up and running, of course learning how everything ties together takes a bit. I'm on my first game after restarting twice and an enjoying it a lot.

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RE: How do historical wargamers feel about fantasy/ sci... - 5/17/2016 2:56:20 AM   
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RE: How do historical wargamers feel about fantasy/ sci... - 5/17/2016 2:56:35 AM   
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Status: offline 		Sometimes leaving the shackles of history opens a game up to some interesting possibilities. I think many wargamers found the original SSG Warlords titles acceptable to them.

I would also recommend Endless Legends, even to harder core wargamers. Darkest Dungeons is another surprise with 14,000 likes on Steam.

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RE: How do historical wargamers feel about fantasy/ sci... - 5/17/2016 2:59:50 AM   
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I could play fantasy if its something from books I like, such as Lord of the Rings, or the official AD&D.

Never got into the Warhammer stuff and not sure why people like that.

I could get into a Star Wars or Star Trek world version of Armada 2526 (Supernova)...or even just an improved Armada 2526 (Supernova).



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RE: How do historical wargamers feel about fantasy/ sci... - 5/17/2016 4:34:06 AM   
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RE: How do historical wargamers feel about fantasy/ sci... - 5/17/2016 5:33:03 AM   
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RE: How do historical wargamers feel about fantasy/ sci... - 5/17/2016 6:03:57 AM   
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RE: How do historical wargamers feel about fantasy/ sci... - 5/17/2016 7:03:10 AM   
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You have to pretend that weighing different laser cannons is actually gun calibers, and that moving to ion warp drives from fusion engines is really just like the coal-to-oil transition of the Royal Navy, but the upshot is that you're not limited by the political and industrial realities of the The World As It Was in 1900.

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RE: How do historical wargamers feel about fantasy/ sci... - 5/17/2016 4:07:34 PM   
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RE: How do historical wargamers feel about fantasy/ sci... - 5/17/2016 4:26:07 PM   
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