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RE: Too much Iron in my Diet - Mundy vs KenchiSulla - 6/11/2016 4:21:45 PM

Mundy

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03 October 1943

No new fight happened NE of Calcutta, as his troops got away. My bunch a now headed to Asansol. The three units NW of Howrah are headed to Jamshedpur.

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RE: Too much Iron in my Diet - Mundy vs KenchiSulla - 6/11/2016 4:50:27 PM

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I think troops in reserve mode do suffer less from aerial bombing and naval/land bombardment too. IRL reserve troops would be hunkered down in some kind of cover, waiting for orders so I think the developers worked that kind of thing into the combat models.

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RE: Too much Iron in my Diet - Mundy vs KenchiSulla - 6/11/2016 5:30:40 PM

Mundy

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04 October 1944

I guess I know where's he's kept his subs this game, as there's a cloud of them around Truk, ferreted out by my SB2Cs. I'll round the north side to a spot 6 hexes away, so I can hit all the transports I can see there.

If he has one blind spot, I think he could have carried out a better sub campaign. I can be rather free and loose with running my ships between Pearl and the States. He had somewhat of one going early in the game, but after my blimps beat up some, they never really returned. I'd have been spending mini-subs like pennies too.

As it is, I have a dedicated ASW group with each invasion TF, which will probably blunt any attempt on them. I've come to the conclusion that subs will never stop anything serious.

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RE: Too much Iron in my Diet - Mundy vs KenchiSulla - 6/12/2016 1:20:39 AM

Mundy

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05 October 1944

Judgement day.

My carriers hit his shipping at Truk. It really wasn't pretty. Despite greatly outnumbering him in fighters, my CAP just seemed to peter out and his guys would break through to my bombers. Probably 50 of my fighters down and more strike planes, mostly SB2Cs down. It's still < 10% of my fighter strength, so I'll back off from there.

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Morning Air attack on TF, near Truk at 112,108

Weather in hex: Severe storms

Raid detected at 79 NM, estimated altitude 16,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 34 minutes

Japanese aircraft
A6M8 Zero x 29
N1K1-J George x 13
Ki-44-IIc Tojo x 28
Ki-84r Frank x 32

Allied aircraft
F4U-1A Corsair x 62
F6F-3 Hellcat x 99
F6F-5 Hellcat x 69
SB2C-1C Helldiver x 15
TBM-1C Avenger x 46

Japanese aircraft losses
A6M8 Zero: 1 destroyed
Ki-44-IIc Tojo: 1 destroyed

Allied aircraft losses
F4U-1A Corsair: 3 destroyed
F6F-3 Hellcat: 12 destroyed
F6F-5 Hellcat: 2 destroyed
SB2C-1C Helldiver: 3 destroyed
TBM-1C Avenger: 15 destroyed, 3 damaged

Japanese Ships
CMc Toshima
xAKL Tomozono Maru #3
xAKL Genmei Maru, Torpedo hits 1, and is sunk
xAKL Daitei Maru, Torpedo hits 1, and is sunk
CMc Kurosaki
xAKL Kumakawa Maru
xAKL Tsuneshima Maru
xAKL Hakuyo Maru
xAKL Higari Maru
xAKL Katsuragisan Maru, Torpedo hits 1, and is sunk

Aircraft Attacking:
5 x SB2C-1C Helldiver releasing from 3000'
Naval Attack: 1 x 1000 lb SAP Bomb, 2 x 250 lb SAP Bomb
5 x TBM-1C Avenger launching torpedoes at 200 feet
Naval Attack: 1 x 22.4in Mk 13 Torp.
12 x TBM-1C Avenger launching torpedoes at 200 feet
Naval Attack: 1 x 22.4in Mk 13 Torp.
14 x TBM-1C Avenger launching torpedoes at 200 feet
Naval Attack: 1 x 22.4in Mk 13 Torp.
3 x SB2C-1C Helldiver releasing from 4000'
Naval Attack: 1 x 1000 lb SAP Bomb, 2 x 250 lb SAP Bomb
4 x SB2C-1C Helldiver releasing from 2000'
Naval Attack: 1 x 1000 lb SAP Bomb, 2 x 250 lb SAP Bomb

CAP engaged:
S-305 Hikotai with A6M8 Zero (9 airborne, 0 on standby, 0 scrambling)
(29 plane(s) diverted to support CAP in hex.)
9 plane(s) intercepting now.
0 plane(s) not yet engaged, 17 being recalled, 3 out of immediate contact.
Group patrol altitude is 12000 , scrambling fighters between 0 and 12000.
Time for all group planes to reach interception is 32 minutes
13th Sentai with Ki-84r Frank (6 airborne, 0 on standby, 0 scrambling)
(32 plane(s) diverted to support CAP in hex.)
6 plane(s) intercepting now.
0 plane(s) not yet engaged, 23 being recalled, 3 out of immediate contact.
Group patrol altitude is 15000 , scrambling fighters between 0 and 15000.
Time for all group planes to reach interception is 36 minutes
70th Sentai with Ki-44-IIc Tojo (9 airborne, 0 on standby, 0 scrambling)
(31 plane(s) diverted to support CAP in hex.)
9 plane(s) intercepting now.
0 plane(s) not yet engaged, 11 being recalled, 8 out of immediate contact.
Group patrol altitude is 10000 , scrambling fighters between 0 and 10000.
Time for all group planes to reach interception is 39 minutes
S-322 Hikotai with N1K1-J George (3 airborne, 0 on standby, 0 scrambling)
(13 plane(s) diverted to support CAP in hex.)
3 plane(s) intercepting now.
0 plane(s) not yet engaged, 9 being recalled, 1 out of immediate contact.
Group patrol altitude is 20000 , scrambling fighters between 0 and 20000.
Time for all group planes to reach interception is 30 minutes

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Morning Air attack on TF, near Truk at 112,108

Weather in hex: Severe storms

Raid detected at 69 NM, estimated altitude 13,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 30 minutes

Japanese aircraft
A6M8 Zero x 12
N1K1-J George x 9
Ki-44-IIc Tojo x 12
Ki-84r Frank x 26

Allied aircraft
F4U-1A Corsair x 17
SB2C-1C Helldiver x 41
SB2C-3 Helldiver x 24

Japanese aircraft losses
A6M8 Zero: 1 destroyed
N1K1-J George: 1 destroyed
Ki-44-IIc Tojo: 1 destroyed

Allied aircraft losses
F4U-1A Corsair: 1 destroyed
SB2C-1C Helldiver: 5 destroyed, 9 damaged
SB2C-3 Helldiver: 12 destroyed, 2 damaged

Japanese Ships
xAKL Higari Maru, Bomb hits 2, heavy fires
xAKL Hakuyo Maru, Bomb hits 2, heavy fires, heavy damage
xAKL Tomozono Maru #3, Bomb hits 1, and is sunk
xAKL Tsuneshima Maru
xAKL Tateyama Maru, Bomb hits 1
xAKL Hitora Maru, Bomb hits 2, heavy fires, heavy damage
xAKL Choan Maru #2
xAKL Kumakawa Maru, Bomb hits 3, heavy fires, heavy damage

Aircraft Attacking:
8 x SB2C-1C Helldiver releasing from 2000'
Naval Attack: 1 x 1000 lb SAP Bomb, 2 x 250 lb SAP Bomb
10 x SB2C-1C Helldiver releasing from 4000'
Naval Attack: 1 x 1000 lb SAP Bomb, 2 x 250 lb SAP Bomb
6 x SB2C-3 Helldiver releasing from 2000'
Naval Attack: 1 x 1000 lb SAP Bomb, 2 x 250 lb SAP Bomb
7 x SB2C-1C Helldiver releasing from 4000'
Naval Attack: 1 x 1000 lb SAP Bomb, 2 x 250 lb SAP Bomb
1 x SB2C-1C Helldiver releasing from 3000'
Naval Attack: 1 x 1000 lb SAP Bomb, 2 x 250 lb SAP Bomb
5 x SB2C-1C Helldiver releasing from 2000'
Naval Attack: 1 x 1000 lb SAP Bomb, 2 x 250 lb SAP Bomb

CAP engaged:
S-305 Hikotai with A6M8 Zero (4 airborne, 0 on standby, 0 scrambling)
(13 plane(s) diverted to support CAP in hex.)
4 plane(s) intercepting now.
8 plane(s) not yet engaged, 0 being recalled, 0 out of immediate contact.
Group patrol altitude is 12000 , scrambling fighters between 4000 and 15000.
Time for all group planes to reach interception is 33 minutes
7 planes vectored on to bombers
13th Sentai with Ki-84r Frank (0 airborne, 0 on standby, 0 scrambling)
(29 plane(s) diverted to support CAP in hex.)
23 plane(s) not yet engaged, 0 being recalled, 3 out of immediate contact.
Group patrol altitude is 15000 , scrambling fighters between 4000 and 17000.
Time for all group planes to reach interception is 44 minutes
30 planes vectored on to bombers
S-322 Hikotai with N1K1-J George (0 airborne, 0 on standby, 0 scrambling)
(12 plane(s) diverted to support CAP in hex.)
7 plane(s) not yet engaged, 1 being recalled, 1 out of immediate contact.
Group patrol altitude is 20000 , scrambling fighters to 4000.
Time for all group planes to reach interception is 56 minutes
10 planes vectored on to bombers
70th Sentai with Ki-44-IIc Tojo (0 airborne, 0 on standby, 0 scrambling)
(15 plane(s) diverted to support CAP in hex.)
8 plane(s) not yet engaged, 4 being recalled, 0 out of immediate contact.
Group patrol altitude is 10000 , scrambling fighters between 4000 and 8000.
Time for all group planes to reach interception is 22 minutes
5 planes vectored on to bombers

Heavy smoke from fires obscuring xAKL Hakuyo Maru
Heavy smoke from fires obscuring xAKL Higari Maru

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Morning Air attack on TF, near Truk at 112,108

Weather in hex: Severe storms

Raid detected at 19 NM, estimated altitude 15,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 8 minutes

Japanese aircraft
A6M8 Zero x 3
N1K1-J George x 5
Ki-44-IIc Tojo x 4
Ki-84r Frank x 14

Allied aircraft
TBM-1C Avenger x 18

No Japanese losses

Allied aircraft losses
TBM-1C Avenger: 3 destroyed

CAP engaged:
13th Sentai with Ki-84r Frank (3 airborne, 0 on standby, 5 scrambling)
3 plane(s) intercepting now.
6 plane(s) not yet engaged, 0 being recalled, 0 out of immediate contact.
Group patrol altitude is 15000 , scrambling fighters between 2000 and 16000.
Time for all group planes to reach interception is 37 minutes
S-322 Hikotai with N1K1-J George (0 airborne, 0 on standby, 0 scrambling)
5 plane(s) not yet engaged, 0 being recalled, 0 out of immediate contact.
Group patrol altitude is 20000 , scrambling fighters between 8000 and 15000.
Time for all group planes to reach interception is 38 minutes
S-305 Hikotai with A6M8 Zero (1 airborne, 0 on standby, 0 scrambling)
1 plane(s) intercepting now.
2 plane(s) not yet engaged, 0 being recalled, 0 out of immediate contact.
Group patrol altitude is 12000 , scrambling fighters between 12000 and 13000.
Time for all group planes to reach interception is 25 minutes
70th Sentai with Ki-44-IIc Tojo (0 airborne, 0 on standby, 2 scrambling)
2 plane(s) not yet engaged, 0 being recalled, 0 out of immediate contact.
Group patrol altitude is 10000 , scrambling fighters between 12000 and 16000.
Time for all group planes to reach interception is 38 minutes

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Afternoon Air attack on TF, near Truk at 112,108

Weather in hex: Heavy rain

Raid detected at 73 NM, estimated altitude 14,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 31 minutes

Japanese aircraft
A6M8 Zero x 16
N1K1-J George x 10
Ki-44-IIc Tojo x 22
Ki-84r Frank x 29

Allied aircraft
F4U-1A Corsair x 79
F6F-3 Hellcat x 68
F6F-5 Hellcat x 52
SB2C-1C Helldiver x 12
TBM-1C Avenger x 13

Japanese aircraft losses
A6M8 Zero: 1 destroyed
Ki-44-IIc Tojo: 4 destroyed

Allied aircraft losses
F4U-1A Corsair: 1 destroyed
F6F-3 Hellcat: 4 destroyed
F6F-5 Hellcat: 3 destroyed
SB2C-1C Helldiver: 3 destroyed, 1 damaged
TBM-1C Avenger: 5 destroyed, 2 damaged

Japanese Ships
CMc Toshima
xAKL Tateyama Maru
xAKL Higari Maru, on fire

Aircraft Attacking:
6 x SB2C-1C Helldiver releasing from 3000'
Naval Attack: 1 x 1000 lb SAP Bomb, 2 x 250 lb SAP Bomb
4 x TBM-1C Avenger launching torpedoes at 200 feet
Naval Attack: 1 x 22.4in Mk 13 Torp.
1 x TBM-1C Avenger launching torpedoes at 200 feet
Naval Attack: 1 x 22.4in Mk 13 Torp.

CAP engaged:
S-305 Hikotai with A6M8 Zero (5 airborne, 0 on standby, 0 scrambling)
(16 plane(s) diverted to support CAP in hex.)
5 plane(s) intercepting now.
0 plane(s) not yet engaged, 11 being recalled, 0 out of immediate contact.
Group patrol altitude is 12000 , scrambling fighters between 0 and 12000.
Time for all group planes to reach interception is 8 minutes
13th Sentai with Ki-84r Frank (0 airborne, 0 on standby, 0 scrambling)
(29 plane(s) diverted to support CAP in hex.)
0 plane(s) not yet engaged, 26 being recalled, 3 out of immediate contact.
Group patrol altitude is 15000 , scrambling fighters between 0 and 15000.
Time for all group planes to reach interception is 31 minutes
70th Sentai with Ki-44-IIc Tojo (3 airborne, 0 on standby, 0 scrambling)
(22 plane(s) diverted to support CAP in hex.)
3 plane(s) intercepting now.
0 plane(s) not yet engaged, 16 being recalled, 3 out of immediate contact.
Group patrol altitude is 10000 , scrambling fighters between 0 and 10000.
Time for all group planes to reach interception is 37 minutes
S-322 Hikotai with N1K1-J George (0 airborne, 0 on standby, 0 scrambling)
(10 plane(s) diverted to support CAP in hex.)
0 plane(s) not yet engaged, 10 being recalled, 0 out of immediate contact.
Group patrol altitude is 20000 , scrambling fighters between 0 and 20000.
Time for all group planes to reach interception is 6 minutes

However... his carriers appear to have arrived to the west of here. Taking a deep breath, I'm moving after them. I figure ship vs ship, it'll have to be more even at this point -- especially if it's mostly Zekes up.

We'll see.

My armor reaches Kohima, and I'm attacking there. Other than that, my guys have cleared away from his and I'm bombing airfields.

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RE: Too much Iron in my Diet - Mundy vs KenchiSulla - 6/12/2016 2:15:09 AM

BBfanboy

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Those aircraft losses were not worth the xAKLs you hit. I would guess that he deliberately put them there as bait for his CAP trap.

Good luck with his carriers, but keep an eye on your pilot fatigue. I find that after two days of strikes they hit little on day three, and you already have strike one!

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RE: Too much Iron in my Diet - Mundy vs KenchiSulla - 6/12/2016 3:42:09 AM

Capt. Harlock

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Despite greatly outnumbering him in fighters, my CAP just seemed to peter out and his guys would break through to my bombers. Probably 50 of my fighters down

Wow -- I would have thought Corsairs would do better than that. He must have some elite pilots there.

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RE: Too much Iron in my Diet - Mundy vs KenchiSulla - 6/12/2016 7:05:00 AM

Sangeli

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This is why I'm so reluctant to send carriers to sink enemy shipping. It's gotta be carrying fuel or troops to really be worth it if its near a base that can provide CAP.

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RE: Too much Iron in my Diet - Mundy vs KenchiSulla - 6/12/2016 2:50:27 PM

Mundy

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06 October 1944

If they struggled to hit ships at a base, my carriers at least showed they could defend themselves. I'm not quite sure where the raid came from, but I think I was far enough from Truk where these probably came from the Marianas. Only two bombers got through the CAP.

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Afternoon Air attack on TF, near Woleai at 102,102

Weather in hex: Moderate rain

Raid detected at 80 NM, estimated altitude 10,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 24 minutes

Japanese aircraft
N1K2-J George x 33
P1Y2 Frances x 37

Allied aircraft
F4U-1A Corsair x 119
F6F-3 Hellcat x 98
F6F-5 Hellcat x 61

Japanese aircraft losses
N1K2-J George: 11 destroyed
P1Y2 Frances: 23 destroyed, 1 damaged
P1Y2 Frances: 1 destroyed by flak

Allied aircraft losses
F6F-5 Hellcat: 1 destroyed

Allied Ships
BB Massachusetts
CV Intrepid

Aircraft Attacking:
1 x P1Y2 Frances launching torpedoes at 200 feet
Naval Attack: 1 x 45cm Type 91 Torp
1 x P1Y2 Frances launching torpedoes at 200 feet
Naval Attack: 1 x 45cm Type 91 Torp

CAP engaged:
VF-1 with F6F-3 Hellcat (2 airborne, 13 on standby, 0 scrambling)
2 plane(s) intercepting now.
0 plane(s) not yet engaged, 4 being recalled, 0 out of immediate contact.
Group patrol altitude is 15000
Time for all group planes to reach interception is 33 minutes
13 planes vectored on to bombers
VF-7 with F6F-5 Hellcat (0 airborne, 14 on standby, 0 scrambling)
0 plane(s) not yet engaged, 6 being recalled, 0 out of immediate contact.
Group patrol altitude is 15000 , scrambling fighters between 5000 and 15000.
Time for all group planes to reach interception is 33 minutes
16 planes vectored on to bombers
VF-8 with F4U-1A Corsair (0 airborne, 12 on standby, 16 scrambling)
0 plane(s) not yet engaged, 5 being recalled, 0 out of immediate contact.
Group patrol altitude is 15000 , scrambling fighters between 2000 and 15000.
Time for all group planes to reach interception is 24 minutes
25 planes vectored on to bombers
VF-9 with F4U-1A Corsair (4 airborne, 9 on standby, 12 scrambling)
4 plane(s) intercepting now.
Group patrol altitude is 15000
Time for all group planes to reach interception is 27 minutes
21 planes vectored on to bombers
VF-10 with F6F-3 Hellcat (0 airborne, 10 on standby, 15 scrambling)
0 plane(s) not yet engaged, 5 being recalled, 0 out of immediate contact.
Group patrol altitude is 15000 , scrambling fighters between 5000 and 15000.
Time for all group planes to reach interception is 30 minutes
18 planes vectored on to bombers
VF-11 with F4U-1A Corsair (0 airborne, 10 on standby, 0 scrambling)
0 plane(s) not yet engaged, 4 being recalled, 0 out of immediate contact.
Group patrol altitude is 15000 , scrambling fighters between 2000 and 5000.
Time for all group planes to reach interception is 33 minutes
8 planes vectored on to bombers
VF-13 with F6F-3 Hellcat (4 airborne, 10 on standby, 0 scrambling)
4 plane(s) intercepting now.
0 plane(s) not yet engaged, 1 being recalled, 0 out of immediate contact.
Group patrol altitude is 15000 , scrambling fighters between 4000 and 15000.
Time for all group planes to reach interception is 27 minutes
11 planes vectored on to bombers
VF-14 with F4U-1A Corsair (4 airborne, 10 on standby, 0 scrambling)
4 plane(s) intercepting now.
0 plane(s) not yet engaged, 1 being recalled, 0 out of immediate contact.
Group patrol altitude is 15000 , scrambling fighters between 8000 and 15000.
Time for all group planes to reach interception is 30 minutes
5 planes vectored on to bombers
VF-16 with F4U-1A Corsair (0 airborne, 8 on standby, 11 scrambling)
0 plane(s) not yet engaged, 4 being recalled, 0 out of immediate contact.
Group patrol altitude is 15000 , scrambling fighters between 3000 and 10000.
Time for all group planes to reach interception is 28 minutes
19 planes vectored on to bombers
VF-18 with F6F-5 Hellcat (4 airborne, 10 on standby, 0 scrambling)
4 plane(s) intercepting now.
0 plane(s) not yet engaged, 1 being recalled, 0 out of immediate contact.
Group patrol altitude is 15000 , scrambling fighters between 7000 and 15000.
Time for all group planes to reach interception is 17 minutes
10 planes vectored on to bombers
VF-22 with F6F-5 Hellcat (0 airborne, 7 on standby, 0 scrambling)
0 plane(s) not yet engaged, 3 being recalled, 0 out of immediate contact.
Group patrol altitude is 15000 , scrambling fighters between 3000 and 15000.
Time for all group planes to reach interception is 35 minutes
10 planes vectored on to bombers
VF-23 with F6F-5 Hellcat (2 airborne, 4 on standby, 0 scrambling)
2 plane(s) intercepting now.
Group patrol altitude is 15000 , scrambling fighters to 8000.
Time for all group planes to reach interception is 17 minutes
2 planes vectored on to bombers
VF-24 with F6F-5 Hellcat (0 airborne, 7 on standby, 0 scrambling)
0 plane(s) not yet engaged, 3 being recalled, 0 out of immediate contact.
Group patrol altitude is 15000 , scrambling fighters between 12000 and 15000.
Time for all group planes to reach interception is 15 minutes
10 planes vectored on to bombers
VF-30 with F6F-3 Hellcat (0 airborne, 6 on standby, 0 scrambling)
0 plane(s) not yet engaged, 2 being recalled, 0 out of immediate contact.
Group patrol altitude is 15000
Time for all group planes to reach interception is 15 minutes
6 planes vectored on to bombers
VF-31 with F4U-1A Corsair (0 airborne, 6 on standby, 0 scrambling)
0 plane(s) not yet engaged, 0 being recalled, 3 out of immediate contact.
Group patrol altitude is 15000 , scrambling fighters between 5000 and 12000.
Time for all group planes to reach interception is 28 minutes
9 planes vectored on to bombers
VF-32 with F6F-3 Hellcat (0 airborne, 4 on standby, 0 scrambling)
0 plane(s) not yet engaged, 2 being recalled, 0 out of immediate contact.
Group patrol altitude is 15000 , scrambling fighters to 2000.
Time for all group planes to reach interception is 24 minutes
4 planes vectored on to bombers
VF-50 with F6F-3 Hellcat (0 airborne, 8 on standby, 0 scrambling)
0 plane(s) not yet engaged, 3 being recalled, 0 out of immediate contact.
Group patrol altitude is 15000 , scrambling fighters between 4000 and 15000.
Time for all group planes to reach interception is 23 minutes
11 planes vectored on to bombers
VF-51 with F6F-3 Hellcat (0 airborne, 6 on standby, 0 scrambling)
0 plane(s) not yet engaged, 3 being recalled, 0 out of immediate contact.
Group patrol altitude is 15000 , scrambling fighters between 3000 and 6000.
Time for all group planes to reach interception is 26 minutes
9 planes vectored on to bombers

"KB" up and ran, and I've lost sight of them. I'm moving my ships NE to rendezvous with the big mob. I need to refuel anyway, as they're getting a bit down. I'm staying away from Truk doing this.

I take my shot at Imphal, but don't get good odds. Fortunately, my losses were light.

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Ground combat at Imphal (60,40)

Allied Deliberate attack

Attacking force 4008 troops, 52 guns, 145 vehicles, Assault Value = 111

Defending force 1887 troops, 3 guns, 6 vehicles, Assault Value = 50

Allied adjusted assault: 91

Japanese adjusted defense: 499

Allied assault odds: 1 to 5 (fort level 3)

Combat modifiers
Defender: terrain(+), forts(+), leaders(+), preparation(-)
Attacker:

Japanese ground losses:
82 casualties reported
Squads: 0 destroyed, 5 disabled
Non Combat: 0 destroyed, 1 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 2 disabled

Allied ground losses:
17 casualties reported
Squads: 0 destroyed, 2 disabled
Non Combat: 0 destroyed, 1 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 2 disabled

Assaulting units:
11th PAVO Regiment
72nd British Brigade

Defending units:
20th Ind Engineer Regiment
1st Raiding Regiment

The US 41st Infantry Division is probably one of my only full strength units in India. I'm railing them to Dimapur so they can join in at Imphal. Nice being able to control the countryside.

Howrah and Calcutta at 100% damage. Diamond Harbor at 40%. I'll just keep them that way.

KS is going out of town, so I won't get another turn 'til tomorrow afternoon.

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RE: Too much Iron in my Diet - Mundy vs KenchiSulla - 6/13/2016 8:26:12 PM

Mundy

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07 October 1944

With heavy heart, I'm pulling the plug on my Marianas/Truk invasion for now.

My covering force of fleet carriers has been taking heavy hits to the strike planes. The scouts have been getting shredded by Truk's CAP. 40 SB2Cs went down just today, between the scouts and a couple shots taken at ships at Truk. I'm almost tempted to stand down all the naval bombers but I want them up in case KB comes at me. It looks like KB is parked in the hex just east of Truk right now, so anything I launch also has to deal with the 150 land based fighters there. I wasn't really happy with my troop dispositions on the ships anyway, and I had lots of follow-on TFs carrying parts of units which didn't load. I've been getting lots more APAs at Pearl since this kicked off, so I can do a better job forming this up next time.

The shots I took were rather lame. 4-6 bombers escorted by some 200-ish fighters.

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Morning Air attack on TF, near Truk at 112,108

Weather in hex: Clear sky

Raid detected at 79 NM, estimated altitude 15,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 34 minutes

Japanese aircraft
A6M8 Zero x 177
N1K1 Rex x 14
N1K1-J George x 10
Ki-44-IIc Tojo x 19
Ki-84r Frank x 60

Allied aircraft
F4U-1A Corsair x 76
F6F-3 Hellcat x 80
F6F-5 Hellcat x 58
SB2C-1C Helldiver x 7

Japanese aircraft losses
A6M8 Zero: 6 destroyed
Ki-44-IIc Tojo: 1 destroyed

Allied aircraft losses
F4U-1A Corsair: 1 destroyed
F6F-3 Hellcat: 1 destroyed
F6F-5 Hellcat: 2 destroyed
SB2C-1C Helldiver: 4 destroyed

CAP engaged:
S-305 Hikotai with A6M8 Zero (5 airborne, 0 on standby, 0 scrambling)
(15 plane(s) diverted to support CAP in hex.)
5 plane(s) intercepting now.
0 plane(s) not yet engaged, 6 being recalled, 4 out of immediate contact.
Group patrol altitude is 12000 , scrambling fighters between 0 and 12000.
Time for all group planes to reach interception is 38 minutes
1 planes vectored on to bombers
801 Ku S-1 with N1K1 Rex (4 airborne, 0 on standby, 0 scrambling)
(14 plane(s) diverted to support CAP in hex.)
4 plane(s) intercepting now.
0 plane(s) not yet engaged, 7 being recalled, 3 out of immediate contact.
Group patrol altitude is 20000 , scrambling fighters between 0 and 20000.
Time for all group planes to reach interception is 39 minutes
Akagi-1 with A6M8 Zero (4 airborne, 0 on standby, 0 scrambling)
(14 plane(s) diverted to support CAP in hex.)
4 plane(s) intercepting now.
0 plane(s) not yet engaged, 7 being recalled, 3 out of immediate contact.
Group patrol altitude is 10000 , scrambling fighters between 0 and 10000.
Time for all group planes to reach interception is 26 minutes
Soryu-1 with A6M8 Zero (3 airborne, 0 on standby, 0 scrambling)
(14 plane(s) diverted to support CAP in hex.)
3 plane(s) intercepting now.
0 plane(s) not yet engaged, 8 being recalled, 3 out of immediate contact.
Group patrol altitude is 10000 , scrambling fighters between 0 and 10000.
Time for all group planes to reach interception is 33 minutes
Hiryu-1 with A6M8 Zero (3 airborne, 0 on standby, 0 scrambling)
(14 plane(s) diverted to support CAP in hex.)
3 plane(s) intercepting now.
0 plane(s) not yet engaged, 11 being recalled, 0 out of immediate contact.
Group patrol altitude is 10000 , scrambling fighters between 0 and 10000.
Time for all group planes to reach interception is 10 minutes
Shokaku-1 with A6M8 Zero (3 airborne, 0 on standby, 0 scrambling)
(9 plane(s) diverted to support CAP in hex.)
3 plane(s) intercepting now.
0 plane(s) not yet engaged, 3 being recalled, 3 out of immediate contact.
Group patrol altitude is 10000 , scrambling fighters between 0 and 10000.
Time for all group planes to reach interception is 25 minutes
Zuikaku-1 with A6M8 Zero (0 airborne, 0 on standby, 0 scrambling)
(9 plane(s) diverted to support CAP in hex.)
0 plane(s) not yet engaged, 9 being recalled, 0 out of immediate contact.
Group patrol altitude is 10000 , scrambling fighters between 0 and 10000.
Time for all group planes to reach interception is 7 minutes
Junyo-1 with A6M8 Zero (6 airborne, 0 on standby, 0 scrambling)
(10 plane(s) diverted to support CAP in hex.)
6 plane(s) intercepting now.
0 plane(s) not yet engaged, 1 being recalled, 3 out of immediate contact.
Group patrol altitude is 10000 , scrambling fighters between 0 and 10000.
Time for all group planes to reach interception is 38 minutes
Shoho-1 with A6M8 Zero (5 airborne, 0 on standby, 0 scrambling)
(11 plane(s) diverted to support CAP in hex.)
5 plane(s) intercepting now.
0 plane(s) not yet engaged, 3 being recalled, 3 out of immediate contact.
Group patrol altitude is 10000 , scrambling fighters between 0 and 10000.
Time for all group planes to reach interception is 36 minutes
Ryuho-1 with A6M8 Zero (2 airborne, 0 on standby, 0 scrambling)
(11 plane(s) diverted to support CAP in hex.)
2 plane(s) intercepting now.
0 plane(s) not yet engaged, 9 being recalled, 0 out of immediate contact.
Group patrol altitude is 10000 , scrambling fighters between 0 and 10000.
Time for all group planes to reach interception is 11 minutes
Hosho-1 with A6M8 Zero (0 airborne, 0 on standby, 0 scrambling)
(10 plane(s) diverted to support CAP in hex.)
0 plane(s) not yet engaged, 10 being recalled, 0 out of immediate contact.
Group patrol altitude is 10000 , scrambling fighters between 0 and 10000.
Time for all group planes to reach interception is 10 minutes
Taiho-1 with A6M8 Zero (0 airborne, 0 on standby, 0 scrambling)
(5 plane(s) diverted to support CAP in hex.)
0 plane(s) not yet engaged, 4 being recalled, 1 out of immediate contact.
Group patrol altitude is 10000 , scrambling fighters between 0 and 10000.
Time for all group planes to reach interception is 36 minutes
Shinano-1 with A6M8 Zero (3 airborne, 0 on standby, 0 scrambling)
(5 plane(s) diverted to support CAP in hex.)
3 plane(s) intercepting now.
0 plane(s) not yet engaged, 2 being recalled, 0 out of immediate contact.
Group patrol altitude is 10000 , scrambling fighters between 0 and 10000.
Time for all group planes to reach interception is 5 minutes
Unryu-1 with A6M8 Zero (0 airborne, 0 on standby, 0 scrambling)
(5 plane(s) diverted to support CAP in hex.)
0 plane(s) not yet engaged, 5 being recalled, 0 out of immediate contact.
Group patrol altitude is 10000 , scrambling fighters between 0 and 10000.
Time for all group planes to reach interception is 8 minutes
Amagi-1 with A6M8 Zero (0 airborne, 0 on standby, 0 scrambling)
(5 plane(s) diverted to support CAP in hex.)
0 plane(s) not yet engaged, 5 being recalled, 0 out of immediate contact.
Group patrol altitude is 10000 , scrambling fighters between 0 and 10000.
Time for all group planes to reach interception is 11 minutes
Katsuragi-1 with A6M8 Zero (1 airborne, 0 on standby, 0 scrambling)
(5 plane(s) diverted to support CAP in hex.)
1 plane(s) intercepting now.
0 plane(s) not yet engaged, 4 being recalled, 0 out of immediate contact.
Group patrol altitude is 10000 , scrambling fighters between 0 and 10000.
Time for all group planes to reach interception is 12 minutes
Kasagi-1 with A6M8 Zero (1 airborne, 0 on standby, 0 scrambling)
(5 plane(s) diverted to support CAP in hex.)
1 plane(s) intercepting now.
0 plane(s) not yet engaged, 1 being recalled, 3 out of immediate contact.
Group patrol altitude is 10000 , scrambling fighters between 0 and 10000.
Time for all group planes to reach interception is 32 minutes
3 planes vectored on to bombers
Aso-1 with A6M8 Zero (4 airborne, 0 on standby, 0 scrambling)
(6 plane(s) diverted to support CAP in hex.)
4 plane(s) intercepting now.
0 plane(s) not yet engaged, 0 being recalled, 2 out of immediate contact.
Group patrol altitude is 10000 , scrambling fighters between 0 and 10000.
Time for all group planes to reach interception is 31 minutes
Ikoma-1 with A6M8 Zero (2 airborne, 0 on standby, 0 scrambling)
(6 plane(s) diverted to support CAP in hex.)
2 plane(s) intercepting now.
0 plane(s) not yet engaged, 4 being recalled, 0 out of immediate contact.
Group patrol altitude is 10000 , scrambling fighters between 0 and 10000.
Time for all group planes to reach interception is 6 minutes
3 planes vectored on to bombers
13th Sentai with Ki-84r Frank (3 airborne, 18 on standby, 0 scrambling)
(10 plane(s) diverted to support CAP in hex.)
3 plane(s) intercepting now.
0 plane(s) not yet engaged, 7 being recalled, 0 out of immediate contact.
Group patrol altitude is 15000 , scrambling fighters between 5000 and 15000.
Time for all group planes to reach interception is 35 minutes
3 planes vectored on to bombers

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Afternoon Air attack on TF, near Truk at 112,108

Weather in hex: Partial cloud

Raid detected at 73 NM, estimated altitude 6,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 32 minutes

Japanese aircraft
A6M8 Zero x 128
N1K1 Rex x 14
N1K1-J George x 10
Ki-44-IIc Tojo x 19
Ki-84r Frank x 59

Allied aircraft
F4U-1A Corsair x 70
F6F-3 Hellcat x 61
F6F-5 Hellcat x 42
TBM-1C Avenger x 6

Japanese aircraft losses
A6M8 Zero: 4 destroyed

Allied aircraft losses
F4U-1A Corsair: 3 destroyed
F6F-3 Hellcat: 2 destroyed
F6F-5 Hellcat: 1 destroyed
TBM-1C Avenger: 3 destroyed

CAP engaged:
S-305 Hikotai with A6M8 Zero (3 airborne, 0 on standby, 0 scrambling)
(13 plane(s) diverted to support CAP in hex.)
3 plane(s) intercepting now.
0 plane(s) not yet engaged, 10 being recalled, 0 out of immediate contact.
Group patrol altitude is 12000 , scrambling fighters between 0 and 12000.
Time for all group planes to reach interception is 10 minutes
801 Ku S-1 with N1K1 Rex (3 airborne, 0 on standby, 0 scrambling)
(14 plane(s) diverted to support CAP in hex.)
3 plane(s) intercepting now.
0 plane(s) not yet engaged, 6 being recalled, 5 out of immediate contact.
Group patrol altitude is 20000 , scrambling fighters between 0 and 20000.
Time for all group planes to reach interception is 38 minutes
Akagi-1 with A6M8 Zero (2 airborne, 0 on standby, 0 scrambling)
(12 plane(s) diverted to support CAP in hex.)
2 plane(s) intercepting now.
0 plane(s) not yet engaged, 7 being recalled, 3 out of immediate contact.
Group patrol altitude is 10000 , scrambling fighters between 0 and 10000.
Time for all group planes to reach interception is 29 minutes
Soryu-1 with A6M8 Zero (0 airborne, 0 on standby, 0 scrambling)
(9 plane(s) diverted to support CAP in hex.)
0 plane(s) not yet engaged, 6 being recalled, 3 out of immediate contact.
Group patrol altitude is 10000 , scrambling fighters between 0 and 10000.
Time for all group planes to reach interception is 35 minutes
Hiryu-1 with A6M8 Zero (1 airborne, 0 on standby, 0 scrambling)
(5 plane(s) diverted to support CAP in hex.)
1 plane(s) intercepting now.
0 plane(s) not yet engaged, 4 being recalled, 0 out of immediate contact.
Group patrol altitude is 10000 , scrambling fighters between 0 and 10000.
Time for all group planes to reach interception is 5 minutes
Shokaku-1 with A6M8 Zero (0 airborne, 0 on standby, 0 scrambling)
(6 plane(s) diverted to support CAP in hex.)
0 plane(s) not yet engaged, 6 being recalled, 0 out of immediate contact.
Group patrol altitude is 10000 , scrambling fighters between 0 and 10000.
Time for all group planes to reach interception is 8 minutes
Zuikaku-1 with A6M8 Zero (6 airborne, 0 on standby, 0 scrambling)
(6 plane(s) diverted to support CAP in hex.)
6 plane(s) intercepting now.
Group patrol altitude is 10000 , scrambling fighters between 0 and 10000.
Raid is overhead
Junyo-1 with A6M8 Zero (1 airborne, 0 on standby, 0 scrambling)
(4 plane(s) diverted to support CAP in hex.)
1 plane(s) intercepting now.
0 plane(s) not yet engaged, 3 being recalled, 0 out of immediate contact.
Group patrol altitude is 10000 , scrambling fighters between 0 and 10000.
Time for all group planes to reach interception is 10 minutes
Shoho-1 with A6M8 Zero (3 airborne, 0 on standby, 0 scrambling)
(6 plane(s) diverted to support CAP in hex.)
3 plane(s) intercepting now.
0 plane(s) not yet engaged, 3 being recalled, 0 out of immediate contact.
Group patrol altitude is 10000 , scrambling fighters between 0 and 10000.
Raid is overhead
Ryuho-1 with A6M8 Zero (2 airborne, 0 on standby, 0 scrambling)
(5 plane(s) diverted to support CAP in hex.)
2 plane(s) intercepting now.
0 plane(s) not yet engaged, 3 being recalled, 0 out of immediate contact.
Group patrol altitude is 10000 , scrambling fighters between 0 and 10000.
Time for all group planes to reach interception is 7 minutes
Hosho-1 with A6M8 Zero (0 airborne, 0 on standby, 0 scrambling)
(5 plane(s) diverted to support CAP in hex.)
0 plane(s) not yet engaged, 5 being recalled, 0 out of immediate contact.
Group patrol altitude is 10000 , scrambling fighters between 0 and 10000.
Time for all group planes to reach interception is 9 minutes
Taiho-1 with A6M8 Zero (1 airborne, 0 on standby, 0 scrambling)
(5 plane(s) diverted to support CAP in hex.)
1 plane(s) intercepting now.
0 plane(s) not yet engaged, 1 being recalled, 3 out of immediate contact.
Group patrol altitude is 10000 , scrambling fighters between 0 and 10000.
Time for all group planes to reach interception is 32 minutes
Shinano-1 with A6M8 Zero (1 airborne, 0 on standby, 0 scrambling)
(5 plane(s) diverted to support CAP in hex.)
1 plane(s) intercepting now.
0 plane(s) not yet engaged, 3 being recalled, 1 out of immediate contact.
Group patrol altitude is 10000 , scrambling fighters between 0 and 10000.
Time for all group planes to reach interception is 33 minutes
1 planes vectored on to bombers
Unryu-1 with A6M8 Zero (1 airborne, 0 on standby, 0 scrambling)
(5 plane(s) diverted to support CAP in hex.)
1 plane(s) intercepting now.
0 plane(s) not yet engaged, 4 being recalled, 0 out of immediate contact.
Group patrol altitude is 10000 , scrambling fighters between 0 and 10000.
Time for all group planes to reach interception is 2 minutes
Amagi-1 with A6M8 Zero (4 airborne, 0 on standby, 0 scrambling)
(5 plane(s) diverted to support CAP in hex.)
4 plane(s) intercepting now.
0 plane(s) not yet engaged, 1 being recalled, 0 out of immediate contact.
Group patrol altitude is 10000 , scrambling fighters between 0 and 10000.
Time for all group planes to reach interception is 9 minutes
Katsuragi-1 with A6M8 Zero (4 airborne, 0 on standby, 0 scrambling)
(5 plane(s) diverted to support CAP in hex.)
4 plane(s) intercepting now.
0 plane(s) not yet engaged, 1 being recalled, 0 out of immediate contact.
Group patrol altitude is 10000 , scrambling fighters between 0 and 10000.
Time for all group planes to reach interception is 6 minutes
Kasagi-1 with A6M8 Zero (3 airborne, 0 on standby, 0 scrambling)
(5 plane(s) diverted to support CAP in hex.)
3 plane(s) intercepting now.
0 plane(s) not yet engaged, 1 being recalled, 1 out of immediate contact.
Group patrol altitude is 10000 , scrambling fighters between 0 and 10000.
Time for all group planes to reach interception is 31 minutes
Aso-1 with A6M8 Zero (0 airborne, 0 on standby, 0 scrambling)
(6 plane(s) diverted to support CAP in hex.)
0 plane(s) not yet engaged, 6 being recalled, 0 out of immediate contact.
Group patrol altitude is 10000 , scrambling fighters between 0 and 10000.
Time for all group planes to reach interception is 9 minutes
Ikoma-1 with A6M8 Zero (1 airborne, 0 on standby, 0 scrambling)
(6 plane(s) diverted to support CAP in hex.)
1 plane(s) intercepting now.
0 plane(s) not yet engaged, 5 being recalled, 0 out of immediate contact.
Group patrol altitude is 10000 , scrambling fighters between 0 and 10000.
Time for all group planes to reach interception is 10 minutes
13th Sentai with Ki-84r Frank (3 airborne, 15 on standby, 0 scrambling)
(12 plane(s) diverted to support CAP in hex.)
3 plane(s) intercepting now.
0 plane(s) not yet engaged, 9 being recalled, 0 out of immediate contact.
Group patrol altitude is 15000 , scrambling fighters between 9000 and 33910.
Time for all group planes to reach interception is 35 minutes

My carriers are halfway between Guam and Truk, moving NE. I'm trying to get out of range of Truk, so my bombers lay off. Fuel's an issue, so I detached some oilers from the main group with two CVE groups to a spot west of Wake, so I can top everyone off.

I did catch some ships near Tinian.

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Afternoon Air attack on TF, near Tinian at 108,95

Weather in hex: Severe storms

Raid spotted at 12 NM, estimated altitude 11,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 4 minutes

Allied aircraft
F6F-3 Hellcat x 9
SB2C-3 Helldiver x 16

Allied aircraft losses
SB2C-3 Helldiver: 1 damaged

Japanese Ships
DD Amatsukaze, Bomb hits 3, on fire
DD Suruyame

Aircraft Attacking:
7 x SB2C-3 Helldiver releasing from 4000'
Naval Attack: 1 x 1000 lb SAP Bomb, 2 x 250 lb SAP Bomb
8 x SB2C-3 Helldiver releasing from 3000'
Naval Attack: 1 x 1000 lb SAP Bomb, 2 x 250 lb SAP Bomb
1 x SB2C-3 Helldiver releasing from 2000'
Naval Attack: 1 x 1000 lb SAP Bomb, 2 x 250 lb SAP Bomb

Heavy smoke from fires obscuring DD Amatsukaze

KS took a couple shots at my fleet carriers, and they were easily rebuffed. The bombers tended to run this time, so their losses were lower than the first time.

In India, everyone but one unit reach Asansol. I'm standing my bombers down to recover. It took me a while to go through every squadron to get the pilot situation fixed up. I figure if he moves planes in again. I'll just sweep them away again. He hasn't been able to stop me when I turn everything on. Calcutta's at 100% while the other two are around 70%. One B-29 squadron withdrew as they were due within a few weeks. Some of the older 7 planes squadrons will be going over the next month.

As far as the east Pacific goes, I'm going to move more incrementally. I'll probably take Wake, Eniwetok and Ponape before going further. Maybe Truk only after that. I think I was spreading things out a bit too thin. If/when KB is dead, I can be more carefree with things. I was getting obsessed with the historical timeline, but I really shouldn't worry about that.

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RE: Too much Iron in my Diet - Mundy vs KenchiSulla - 6/13/2016 8:48:54 PM

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I think you made the right move to abort the invasion until you can replenish your carriers. You need to come in with a full deck.

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RE: Too much Iron in my Diet - Mundy vs KenchiSulla - 6/13/2016 8:58:17 PM

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quote:

ORIGINAL: Mundy
As far as the east Pacific goes, I'm going to move more incrementally. I'll probably take Wake, Eniwetok and Ponape before going further. Maybe Truk only after that. I think I was spreading things out a bit too thin. If/when KB is dead, I can be more carefree with things. I was getting obsessed with the historical timeline, but I really shouldn't worry about that.

I definitely agree with moving incrementally because going after the Marianas in the way you were doing seemed very risky. Better to delay than risk your whole CV fleet. Though it sucks because this delay is going to set you back a number of months since you don't have anything else ready to go in the Pacific.

If not I would recommend a total reevaluation of your Pacific plans because you have nothing else in the pipeline. Again, I reiterate trying to open a second front in the Pacific further south so the Japanese cannot concentrate all their resources in the CentPac to stop you. Certainly those divisions in India could be of use there. I know the Solomons seem a bit out of the way but it certainly beats having to scrap long planned invasions or losing half your fleet.

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RE: Too much Iron in my Diet - Mundy vs KenchiSulla - 6/13/2016 9:40:55 PM

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Well, at this point, I'm not willing to pull troops out of India, as I have a rough parity with him right now. I do want to experiment with using my paras in Burma or maybe China.

08 October 1944

My carriers are slowly getting away from the hot spot. Another strikes tries again from Guam. This one hurt a bit. (him)

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Afternoon Air attack on TF, near Tinian at 110,98

Weather in hex: Severe storms

Raid detected at 80 NM, estimated altitude 9,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 24 minutes

Japanese aircraft
N1K2-J George x 45
P1Y2 Frances x 50

Allied aircraft
F4U-1A Corsair x 98
F6F-3 Hellcat x 83
F6F-5 Hellcat x 50

Japanese aircraft losses
N1K2-J George: 8 destroyed
P1Y2 Frances: 29 destroyed, 1 damaged
P1Y2 Frances: 3 destroyed by flak

Allied aircraft losses
F4U-1A Corsair: 1 destroyed
F6F-3 Hellcat: 1 destroyed

Allied Ships
CV Hornet
BB Massachusetts
CV Essex
CVL Cabot

Aircraft Attacking:
3 x P1Y2 Frances launching torpedoes at 200 feet
Naval Attack: 1 x 45cm Type 91 Torp

CAP engaged:
VF-1 with F6F-3 Hellcat (2 airborne, 12 on standby, 0 scrambling)
2 plane(s) intercepting now.
0 plane(s) not yet engaged, 4 being recalled, 0 out of immediate contact.
Group patrol altitude is 15000 , scrambling fighters between 8000 and 15000.
Time for all group planes to reach interception is 35 minutes
12 planes vectored on to bombers
VF-7 with F6F-5 Hellcat (0 airborne, 11 on standby, 0 scrambling)
0 plane(s) not yet engaged, 5 being recalled, 0 out of immediate contact.
Group patrol altitude is 15000 , scrambling fighters between 7000 and 15000.
Time for all group planes to reach interception is 30 minutes
7 planes vectored on to bombers
VF-8 with F4U-1A Corsair (0 airborne, 9 on standby, 13 scrambling)
0 plane(s) not yet engaged, 0 being recalled, 4 out of immediate contact.
Group patrol altitude is 15000 , scrambling fighters between 1000 and 31690.
Time for all group planes to reach interception is 29 minutes
18 planes vectored on to bombers
VF-9 with F4U-1A Corsair (4 airborne, 9 on standby, 13 scrambling)
4 plane(s) intercepting now.
Group patrol altitude is 15000 , scrambling fighters between 1000 and 15000.
Time for all group planes to reach interception is 24 minutes
16 planes vectored on to bombers
VF-10 with F6F-3 Hellcat (0 airborne, 9 on standby, 13 scrambling)
0 plane(s) not yet engaged, 4 being recalled, 0 out of immediate contact.
Group patrol altitude is 15000 , scrambling fighters between 1000 and 15000.
Time for all group planes to reach interception is 29 minutes
8 planes vectored on to bombers
VF-11 with F4U-1A Corsair (0 airborne, 9 on standby, 0 scrambling)
0 plane(s) not yet engaged, 0 being recalled, 4 out of immediate contact.
Group patrol altitude is 15000 , scrambling fighters between 4000 and 15000.
Time for all group planes to reach interception is 35 minutes
13 planes vectored on to bombers
VF-13 with F6F-3 Hellcat (0 airborne, 7 on standby, 0 scrambling)
0 plane(s) not yet engaged, 3 being recalled, 0 out of immediate contact.
Group patrol altitude is 15000 , scrambling fighters between 6000 and 15000.
Time for all group planes to reach interception is 35 minutes
6 planes vectored on to bombers
VF-14 with F4U-1A Corsair (4 airborne, 10 on standby, 0 scrambling)
4 plane(s) intercepting now.
Group patrol altitude is 15000 , scrambling fighters between 2000 and 15000.
Time for all group planes to reach interception is 30 minutes
VF-16 with F4U-1A Corsair (0 airborne, 8 on standby, 0 scrambling)
0 plane(s) not yet engaged, 3 being recalled, 0 out of immediate contact.
Group patrol altitude is 15000 , scrambling fighters between 5000 and 12000.
Time for all group planes to reach interception is 16 minutes
7 planes vectored on to bombers
VF-18 with F6F-5 Hellcat (0 airborne, 7 on standby, 0 scrambling)
0 plane(s) not yet engaged, 3 being recalled, 0 out of immediate contact.
Group patrol altitude is 15000 , scrambling fighters between 7000 and 10000.
Time for all group planes to reach interception is 17 minutes
7 planes vectored on to bombers
VF-22 with F6F-5 Hellcat (0 airborne, 6 on standby, 0 scrambling)
0 plane(s) not yet engaged, 3 being recalled, 0 out of immediate contact.
Group patrol altitude is 15000 , scrambling fighters between 5000 and 15000.
Time for all group planes to reach interception is 16 minutes
2 planes vectored on to bombers
VF-23 with F6F-5 Hellcat (0 airborne, 4 on standby, 0 scrambling)
0 plane(s) not yet engaged, 2 being recalled, 0 out of immediate contact.
Group patrol altitude is 15000
Time for all group planes to reach interception is 15 minutes
4 planes vectored on to bombers
VF-24 with F6F-5 Hellcat (0 airborne, 6 on standby, 0 scrambling)
0 plane(s) not yet engaged, 3 being recalled, 0 out of immediate contact.
Group patrol altitude is 15000 , scrambling fighters between 15000 and 33050.
Time for all group planes to reach interception is 15 minutes
7 planes vectored on to bombers
VF-30 with F6F-3 Hellcat (0 airborne, 4 on standby, 0 scrambling)
0 plane(s) not yet engaged, 2 being recalled, 0 out of immediate contact.
Group patrol altitude is 15000 , scrambling fighters to 5000.
Time for all group planes to reach interception is 16 minutes
6 planes vectored on to bombers
VF-31 with F4U-1A Corsair (0 airborne, 6 on standby, 0 scrambling)
0 plane(s) not yet engaged, 2 being recalled, 0 out of immediate contact.
Group patrol altitude is 15000 , scrambling fighters between 6000 and 15000.
Time for all group planes to reach interception is 17 minutes
4 planes vectored on to bombers
VF-32 with F6F-3 Hellcat (0 airborne, 5 on standby, 0 scrambling)
0 plane(s) not yet engaged, 2 being recalled, 0 out of immediate contact.
Group patrol altitude is 15000 , scrambling fighters between 8000 and 15000.
Time for all group planes to reach interception is 25 minutes
3 planes vectored on to bombers
VF-50 with F6F-3 Hellcat (3 airborne, 6 on standby, 0 scrambling)
3 plane(s) intercepting now.
Group patrol altitude is 15000 , scrambling fighters between 7000 and 10000.
Time for all group planes to reach interception is 30 minutes
9 planes vectored on to bombers
VF-51 with F6F-3 Hellcat (0 airborne, 5 on standby, 0 scrambling)
0 plane(s) not yet engaged, 2 being recalled, 0 out of immediate contact.
Group patrol altitude is 15000 , scrambling fighters between 15000 and 32370.
Time for all group planes to reach interception is 29 minutes
3 planes vectored on to bombers

He's also getting cutesy with his surfaces forces at Truk and is trying to box me out. I showed him I can still dish it out.

quote:

Afternoon Air attack on TF, near Truk at 113,102

Weather in hex: Light cloud

Raid detected at 79 NM, estimated altitude 10,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 35 minutes

Allied aircraft
F6F-3 Hellcat x 9
TBM-1C Avenger x 2

Allied aircraft losses
TBM-1C Avenger: 2 damaged

Japanese Ships
BB Mutsu, Torpedo hits 2

Aircraft Attacking:
2 x TBM-1C Avenger launching torpedoes at 200 feet
Naval Attack: 1 x 22.4in Mk 13 Torp.

My carriers are heading due east in the pic below and should reach the tankers in two days. I've also taken the battleships, some CLs and destroyers from the carrier groups and made a separate surface force in case he reaches me. Two South Dakotas and two Iowas are in this, so he'd probably regret any real surface fight here.

Calcutta went from 100% to 75%, so he probably has several thousand engineers there.

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RE: Too much Iron in my Diet - Mundy vs KenchiSulla - 6/13/2016 9:52:09 PM

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quote:

ORIGINAL: Mundy
Well, at this point, I'm not willing to pull troops out of India, as I have a rough parity with him right now. I do want to experiment with using my paras in Burma or maybe China.

If you have rough parity, then you are facing a stalemate. A few more or a few less divisions won't change that. But in the Pacific a couple of divisions and a corps HQ can take most island bases. You need to think long term strategy on how those units are going to help you reach it. Is experimenting with paras really a strategy?

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RE: Too much Iron in my Diet - Mundy vs KenchiSulla - 6/13/2016 10:26:31 PM

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quote:

Mundy: Calcutta went from 100% to 75%, so he probably has several thousand engineers there.

He has his engineers tearing down the base? I want mine to be able to do that (for spite, when they are trapped).

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RE: Too much Iron in my Diet - Mundy vs KenchiSulla - 6/13/2016 10:28:35 PM

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Nice exchange on that strike he sent at your carriers! A couple of weeks of that and you could sail right to Japan without fear!

But ... only two Avengers attacking that BB? What happened there?

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RE: Too much Iron in my Diet - Mundy vs KenchiSulla - 6/14/2016 8:52:52 PM

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I think my strike planes are just worn down that much.

09 October 1944

"...full of sound and fury, Signifying nothing."

...almost...

Well, KS pulled my own stunt on me and caught up with my carrier forces. Three different surface groups intercept me. One cruiser based, the second built around Ise and Hyuga, and the last with the two Yamatos. They manage to bypass my surface group both times. One thing I have to say is that this game is good at simulating the screen doing what they can to run interference while the carriers get away.

I stripped out all the "engages" lines to keep this readable.

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Night Time Surface Combat, near Saipan at 113,98, Range 10,000 Yards

Japanese Ships
CA Aoba, Shell hits 4
CA Kinugasa
CA Furutaka, Shell hits 1
CL Yahagi, Shell hits 1
DD Kiyoshimo
DD Tanikaze
DD Shiratsuyu
DD Hatsuharu
DD Hatsushima
DD Wakaba
DD Akatsuki
DD Inazuma
DD Tanigiri
CL Tokachi
CL Kushida, Shell hits 6, on fire

Allied Ships
CV Hornet, Shell hits 1
CV Essex
CV Bunker Hill
CV Intrepid
CVL Princeton
CVL Belleau Wood, Shell hits 1
CVL Monterey
CVL Cabot, Shell hits 1
CV Wasp
CLAA Juneau
CLAA Oakland
DD Charrette
DD Dashiell
DD Heywood Edwards
DD Franks
DD Harrison
CL Houston II

Maximum visibility in Overcast Conditions and 60% moonlight: 8,000 yards
Range closes to 28,000 yards...
CONTACT: Allies radar detects Japanese task force at 28,000 yards
Range closes to 26,000 yards...
Range closes to 16,000 yards...
CONTACT: Allies radar detects Japanese task force at 10,000 yards
CONTACT: Japanese radar detects Allied task force at 10,000 yards
Allied Task Force Manages to Escape
Task forces break off...

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Night Time Surface Combat, near Saipan at 113,98, Range 10,000 Yards

Japanese aircraft
no flights

Japanese aircraft losses
E13A1 Jake: 1 destroyed

Japanese Ships
CA Aoba, Shell hits 3, on fire
CA Kinugasa, Shell hits 1
CA Furutaka, Shell hits 5, and is sunk
CL Yahagi, Shell hits 6
DD Kiyoshimo, Shell hits 1
DD Tanikaze
DD Shiratsuyu
DD Hatsuharu, Shell hits 2
DD Hatsushima
DD Wakaba, Shell hits 2
DD Akatsuki
DD Inazuma, Shell hits 1
DD Tanigiri
CL Tokachi, Shell hits 5
CL Kushida, Shell hits 12, heavy fires, heavy damage

Allied Ships
BB Massachusetts, Shell hits 1
BB Alabama, Shell hits 1
BB Iowa
BB New Jersey, Shell hits 1, Torpedo hits 1
CL Richmond
DD Hall, Shell hits 1
DD Halligan, Shell hits 3
DD Lewis Hancock, Shell hits 1
DD Monssen II
DD Benham II
DD Preston II
CL Vincennes II, Shell hits 1

Maximum visibility in Overcast Conditions and 60% moonlight: 8,000 yards
Range closes to 24,000 yards...
Range closes to 18,000 yards...
CONTACT: Allies radar detects Japanese task force at 10,000 yards
Sawa, Masao crosses the 'T'
Magazine explodes on CA Furutaka
CA Furutaka sunk by BB Alabama at 9,000 yards

Task forces break off...

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Night Time Surface Combat, near Saipan at 113,98, Range 9,000 Yards

Japanese Ships
BB Ise, Shell hits 5, on fire
BB Hyuga, Shell hits 2
CL Sendai
CL Natori, Shell hits 1
CL Yura, Shell hits 1
DD Makigumo
DD Hayanami
DD Yukikaze
DD Hamakaze
DD Asashio
DD Arashio, Shell hits 7, heavy fires, heavy damage

Allied Ships
BB Massachusetts, Shell hits 2
BB Alabama
BB Iowa
BB New Jersey, Shell hits 6, on fire
CL Richmond
DD Hall
DD Halligan
DD Lewis Hancock
DD Monssen II
DD Benham II, Shell hits 2, on fire
DD Preston II
CL Vincennes II, Shell hits 1

Maximum visibility in Overcast Conditions and 60% moonlight: 8,000 yards
Range closes to 24,000 yards...
Edmonds R. crosses the 'T'
Massive explosion on BB Ise

Task forces break off...

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Day Time Surface Combat, near Truk at 116,98, Range 22,000 Yards

Japanese Ships
BB Yamato, Shell hits 4
BB Musashi, Shell hits 1
CA Atago, Shell hits 7, on fire
CA Haguro, Shell hits 3
CA Nachi, Shell hits 4
DD Teruzuki, Shell hits 3, heavy fires
DD Akigumo, Shell hits 1
DD Kiyonami, Shell hits 2, on fire
DD Okinami, Shell hits 2
DD Natsushio, Shell hits 1, on fire
DD Maikaze, Shell hits 2, on fire
DD Hagikaze, Shell hits 2
DD Katsutade

Allied Ships
CV Hornet, Shell hits 2
CV Essex
CV Bunker Hill, Shell hits 2
CV Intrepid, Shell hits 4
CVL Princeton, Shell hits 1
CVL Belleau Wood
CVL Monterey
CVL Cabot, Shell hits 3, heavy fires
CV Wasp, Shell hits 3
CLAA Juneau, Shell hits 8, on fire
CLAA Oakland, Shell hits 7, on fire
DD Charrette, Shell hits 2
DD Dashiell, Shell hits 3
DD Heywood Edwards, Shell hits 2
DD Franks, Shell hits 2
DD Harrison
CL Houston II, Shell hits 3

Maximum visibility in Overcast Conditions: 20,000 yards
Range closes to 28,000 yards...
CONTACT: Allies radar detects Japanese task force at 22,000 yards
CONTACT: Japanese radar detects Allied task force at 22,000 yards
Massive explosion on CL Houston II
Task forces break off...

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Day Time Surface Combat, near Truk at 116,98, Range 18,000 Yards

Japanese Ships
BB Yamato, Shell hits 10, on fire
BB Musashi, Shell hits 4
CA Atago, Shell hits 1, on fire
CA Haguro, Shell hits 1
CA Nachi
DD Teruzuki, Shell hits 3, heavy fires, heavy damage
DD Akigumo
DD Kiyonami, heavy fires
DD Okinami, on fire
DD Natsushio, Shell hits 2, heavy fires
DD Maikaze, Shell hits 2, heavy fires, heavy damage
DD Hagikaze, Shell hits 1
DD Katsutade, Shell hits 4, on fire

Allied Ships
BB Massachusetts, Shell hits 7
BB Alabama
BB Iowa, Shell hits 4
BB New Jersey, Shell hits 4, heavy fires, heavy damage
CL Richmond
DD Hall
DD Halligan
DD Lewis Hancock, Shell hits 2
DD Monssen II
DD Benham II
DD Preston II
CL Vincennes II, Shell hits 5, on fire

Maximum visibility in Overcast Conditions: 20,000 yards
Range closes to 24,000 yards...
CONTACT: Allies radar detects Japanese task force at 24,000 yards
Range closes to 18,000 yards...
CONTACT: Allies radar detects Japanese task force at 18,000 yards
CONTACT: Japanese radar detects Allied task force at 18,000 yards

Edmonds R. orders Allied TF to disengage
Arima, Kaoru orders Japanese TF to disengage
Task forces break off...

Out of the main fleet carriers, only Intrepid took any real damage and even that was fairly moderate. (about 20 flt) A couple CVLs took hits also, but they'll make it. Unfortunately, New Jersey does succumb to flooding and goes down. That one torpedo hit probably did the deal. Yamato took several penetrating 16" hits to the hull and superstructure, including engine damage, so at worst, she'll be out of the war for quite some time. A CL is beat up pretty good, too. Everything could have been a lot worse. No planes attacked them at the end. Franceses from Guam took one last shot with bombs at extreme range, but all missed. At this point, everyone's successfully disengaged and heading home. I was hoping all my CVE (20 of them) would have been in range to strike, but I guess not. Most of Musashi's hits suffered were pretty superficial. I've noticed that at 20,000 yds and longer, his deck armor was protecting the two big guys pretty well. At closer ranges, my 16" shells were punching through his belt pretty good.

Everything's settled down in India. I can't seem to believe my recon, as it now shows Calcutta at 90% again. Several units at Asansol have started upgrading ground units, despite the sparse supply there.

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RE: Too much Iron in my Diet - Mundy vs KenchiSulla - 6/14/2016 8:55:33 PM

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One final note. With all the air searches going on in the battle area. I got notes that Graces were doing some of the searches. That'll probably be something to be careful of when confronting KB.

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RE: Too much Iron in my Diet - Mundy vs KenchiSulla - 6/14/2016 9:25:59 PM

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Looks like the Japanese came out slightly ahead in that battle trading a CA for a fast BB. Unfortunate that your CVs planes didn't strike; that could have devastated that IJN surface fleet. I see there are day battles as well; why didn't your CV planes fly? Did you turn off their naval strike orders?

I guess one lesson from this is that even now you cannot simply manhandle any IJN fleet you encounter. Even at this late date the IJN surface ships are a force to be reckoned with. At least now you can wait for your ships to get repaired while you figure out your next moves while the IJN will also have to seek repairs.

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RE: Too much Iron in my Diet - Mundy vs KenchiSulla - 6/14/2016 9:38:26 PM

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Everyone was still set to Naval Strike.

It doesn't look like the IJN big boys have much staying power. All their main armament ammunition was at zero, according to KS.

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RE: Too much Iron in my Diet - Mundy vs KenchiSulla - 6/14/2016 10:59:03 PM

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10 October 1944

It looks like I'm successfully disengaged. Everyone back to Pearl.

I'm not sure Yamato's totally out of the woods yet. She was on fire, so you never know. Also, where's she headed to? Truk? Never get fully done up there. If it's the home islands, he has to run the sub gauntlet there. The game's not over yet for her.

Light armor reaches Darjeeling and will take it next turn. The only city in Japanese hands apart from the three is Imphal, and I'll have the USA division there within a week to 10 days.

Some US Army tanks are shipping out of Melbourne for Pearl. A regiment left about a week ago.

More subs departed Colombo for the DEI. Colombo and Roi-Namur are my two big sub bases. Pearl just gets the repair jobs. I probably got 50 running from each. I got a cloud of subs around Truk in case anything heads back there.

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RE: Too much Iron in my Diet - Mundy vs KenchiSulla - 6/15/2016 2:20:39 AM

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Well, a rousing set of actions nonetheless. Maybe there should have been some Baltimore-class CA's embedded with the carriers?

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RE: Too much Iron in my Diet - Mundy vs KenchiSulla - 6/15/2016 2:23:46 AM

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It was sort of a dilemma. I was assuming the surface group I formed would head off any of his.

It looked like the lead carrier group that everyone else was following would enter a new hex first, right before the other two groups, and that's when they got caught.

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RE: Too much Iron in my Diet - Mundy vs KenchiSulla - 6/15/2016 8:02:45 AM

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Lowest numbered TFs have the first chance to be involved in combat.
If your CV TFs are lower numbered than your SCTF, swap the ships between them (using Escort as the TF mode while doing so).

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RE: Too much Iron in my Diet - Mundy vs KenchiSulla - 6/15/2016 7:08:53 PM

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That seems rather arbitrary.

Maybe we can persuade Michael to always number SCTFs with single digit numbers.

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RE: Too much Iron in my Diet - Mundy vs KenchiSulla - 6/15/2016 7:44:34 PM

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That seems rather arbitrary.

Maybe we can persuade Michael to always number SCTFs with single digit numbers.

I don't know if it could have been done differently - the game engine is reading a database and typically any program accessing a database starts with the lowest index number and moves through. Not sure if that can be randomized without missing some of the database entries.

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RE: Too much Iron in my Diet - Mundy vs KenchiSulla - 6/15/2016 11:32:28 PM

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Something to watch for in the future.

12 October 1944

Quiet all around. I'm putting some of the longer ranged recon planes at Roi-Namur on max range naval search to try and find the TFs I encountered before.

Indefatigable has arrived at Aden. Unusually, she's loaded out pretty good, with 30 Avengers and 48 Seafires. Two RN CVEs are enroute also, from Cape Town, mostly carrying TBFs.

I can get a little more daring in the Indian Ocean.

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RE: Too much Iron in my Diet - Mundy vs KenchiSulla - 6/16/2016 1:31:24 AM

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It was sort of a dilemma. I was assuming the surface group I formed would head off any of his.

Never assume that *anything* will go right when playing AE. (And this also applies to RL.)

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RE: Too much Iron in my Diet - Mundy vs KenchiSulla - 6/16/2016 1:44:46 AM

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You got that right, Cap.

Over and over.

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RE: Too much Iron in my Diet - Mundy vs KenchiSulla - 6/16/2016 8:25:57 PM

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13th October 1944

I was looking through the kill counts of my fleet carriers.

VF-8 is tops at 125. Pretty good with this being their first combat tour. Several other squadrons in that TF are in the 40-50 range. The other TF didn't seem to rack them up as much.

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RE: Too much Iron in my Diet - Mundy vs KenchiSulla - 6/17/2016 6:43:30 PM

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15 October 1944

Still quiet and will probably be that way for awhile.

Calcutta seems to be repaired up, but no planes have moved in. I'll jump on them the moment they do.

I've been reviewing supply convoys to Cape Town, as I'm bottlenecked there right now. Over the next 76 days, about 800K of supply should come in, which can jump things in India a bit. It looks like convoys stop after 1945, so after that, I'll have to manually push supply in. Two of the three convoys will arrive within 25 and 46 days with most of the above amount, so I'll be shipping again before long.

Troops are prepping at Pearl for Eniwetok and Ponape. I'll probably take them one at a time and overload battleships and rocket craft on each. I've started recon on Wake and that may be on the short list, too. Either way, I can push recon out further after that to cover the Marianas. I'm a couple hexes short right now. If I take Ponape, I can start massive Jug sweeps of Truk like I've done in India. I figure when I finally deal with KB, I'll try to deny them any free cover from bases like that.

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