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RE: European Championship - 6/21/2016 11:03:53 PM   
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Status: offline 		So if I well understood Germany, France, Italy, England and now Spain on one side = killing each other until only one is alive that is

And on the other side Wales and Croatia.

I hope Croatia makes it to the final and bags the title

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RE: European Championship - 6/21/2016 11:37:41 PM   
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Now France or (I hope) Wales and then onwards to the final - I'd predict an Albania v Northern Ireland final though that may be slightly wishful thinking, we'll probably end up playing Iceland

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RE: European Championship - 6/22/2016 5:31:42 AM   
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Would be great for Northern Ireland to meet Wales in the last 16. That's one British side in the last 8...... and probably the only British side in the last 8

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RE: European Championship - 6/22/2016 5:48:58 PM   
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RE: European Championship - 6/22/2016 5:55:50 PM   
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Is Group F the most mucked up in football history?



Why mucked up?

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RE: European Championship - 6/22/2016 5:59:55 PM   
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Is Group F the most mucked up in football history?



Why mucked up?
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Because no one gave Iceland or Hungary a prayer, and Austria (rightly or wrongly) were seen by some as dark horses - and of course Portugal are Portugal (semi-finalists 4 years ago). Portugal may yet turn it around, but for most of that half they were out of the competition......


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RE: European Championship - 6/22/2016 6:07:42 PM   
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The 'golden generation' of Portugal has past. And most teams play defensively against them to minimize the possibility of counters. So I am not all that surprised that Portugal has been struggling.

And I guessed that Iceland would win their matches with 1-0. And if failing that then a 1-1 draw.

So to me group F isn't mucked up, but rather interesting.

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RE: European Championship - 6/22/2016 6:49:06 PM   
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RE: European Championship - 6/22/2016 6:55:50 PM   
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RE: European Championship - 6/22/2016 7:02:16 PM   
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Iceland!!!


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I think you mean

ICELAND!!!!!


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RE: European Championship - 6/22/2016 7:04:08 PM   
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Status: offline 		It's been an interesting tournament so far really. Looks like Roy's master plan has paid off, finish second in the group so we'll face Iceland in the next round He's a genius I tell you!


It's great to see the smaller nations aren't just making up the numbers as people suggested beforehand. France were a bit pants really and Pogba has failed to impress anyone despite pre tournament predicitions

All three of the British representatives are through, which is nice. England have promised much and delivered less, which is normal.

Iceland are through at their first ever finals and were only 2nd by 1 goal difference! Pretty cool.

Spain lost to Croatia and lost their top spot in the group.

It turns out that Belgium might be slightly overrated.


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RE: European Championship - 6/22/2016 7:04:46 PM   
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Status: offline 		Well, haven't see the game (RL work...) but now I have seen the goals.
Finally Ronaldo did something. Our keeper seemed to be badly beaten in all goals.

Nevertheless, here we are, limping along to the round of 16 (I think we will be the last third that goes through...)
If we continue this way Croatia will have a field day...

Congratulations Hungary and Iceland !

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RE: European Championship - 6/22/2016 7:07:46 PM   
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Status: offline 		Well I am not at all confident of beating Iceland. They will sit back and, as we know, with the team of football geniuses that England don't possess, breaking them down and penetrating their defence is not going to be easy. We need to get a goal early and force the Icelanders to commit players forward or.....

And we still get France in the Q/F even if we manage to win that.....

Nice work Roy....

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RE: European Championship - 6/22/2016 7:08:46 PM   
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RE: European Championship - 6/22/2016 7:11:41 PM   
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I am not saying that you are wrong about Roy and England. But, may I humbly suggest, that you let them play first. They are, after all, through to the next stage. Undefeated I might add.



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RE: European Championship - 6/22/2016 7:16:59 PM   
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Status: offline 		Well done, Iceland. You got me 5 mighty points. th1207, watch your back, I'm coming!

"Well I am not at all confident of beating Iceland"

Iceland is the least of your problems

So on what side is Portugal? On the death side (Germany and co.) or the pub friends (Wales etc)?

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RE: European Championship - 6/22/2016 7:20:08 PM   
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I am not saying that you are wrong about Roy and England. But, may I humbly suggest, that you let them play first. They are, after all, through to the next stage. Undefeated I might add.


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Well by all means you can suggest it, but I don't think that will stop England fans of a certain age, raised on a non-stop diet of non-qualification, close shave, plucky defeat, deserved defeat, rubbish football, Germans, rubbish manager, rubbish luck, Argentinians, golden generation , broken metatarsels, dumb tactics, Portuguese, Hand of God, petulant players, more Germans, and utter despair, to go along with your suggestion


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RE: European Championship - 6/22/2016 7:22:39 PM   
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Iceland is the least of your problems

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Yep I think the England supporters on this forum have made that perfectly clear.


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RE: European Championship - 6/22/2016 7:52:33 PM   
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Status: offline 		Good luck to Sweden and the Irish tonight... hold on, I have Bonucci and Alderweirald in my fantasy team. Good luck to the Italians and Belgians too

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RE: European Championship - 6/22/2016 8:20:36 PM   
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... Argentinians, ..



aargh, as a Scotland fan of a certain age I try not to think of the outbreak of national hubris/idiocy which was Scotland in the 1978 World Cup.

I must admit I am really enjoying these euros (even if we were too inept to actually qualify), but do suspect that by the QF stage the old traditional order will start to re-asset itself

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RE: European Championship - 6/22/2016 8:51:44 PM   
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... Argentinians, ..



aargh, as a Scotland fan of a certain age I try not to think of the outbreak of national hubris/idiocy which was Scotland in the 1978 World Cup.

I must admit I am really enjoying these euros (even if we were too inept to actually qualify), but do suspect that by the QF stage the old traditional order will start to re-asset itself
warspite1

Yes, I was referring to 1986 of course

No wish to deepen your gloom by bringing up 1978.... My first World Cup was 1974 and still clearly remember the Scots unluckily going out without being beaten (courtesy of not being able to score enough against Zaire). But 1978 was something quite different wasn't it? What is there that is left to be said about "Ally's army" and that whole sorry debacle?..... probably nothing would be best Well, there's always a silver lining - Archie Gemmill

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q3FvlWyyAKg


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RE: European Championship - 6/22/2016 8:58:01 PM   
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I am not saying that you are wrong about Roy and England. But, may I humbly suggest, that you let them play first. They are, after all, through to the next stage. Undefeated I might add.


warspite1

Well by all means you can suggest it, but I don't think that will stop England fans of a certain age, raised on a non-stop diet of non-qualification, close shave, plucky defeat, deserved defeat, rubbish football, Germans, rubbish manager, rubbish luck, Argentinians, golden generation , broken metatarsels, dumb tactics, Portuguese, Hand of God, petulant players, more Germans, and utter despair, to go along with your suggestion


Well spoken.

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RE: European Championship - 6/22/2016 9:02:00 PM   
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Not that the other countries fans were bad. The English and Germans were great. But the Scots were exceptional. And that kiss sealed the deal.

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RE: European Championship - 6/22/2016 9:59:32 PM   
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Status: offline 		Incredible - that Hoolahan miss and that was it wasn't it? All over, Ireland out....

....and then, a few seconds later, a peach of a cross that Brady connects with and they're through

Wow!

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RE: European Championship - 6/22/2016 10:04:11 PM   
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Congratz to Iceland and Hungary.
Speaking about top great players, it was with great sadnesses that I watched Ibra's last match wearing the Sweedish jersey.
The Euro and World competitions will miss him. I surely will.

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RE: European Championship - 6/22/2016 10:06:25 PM   
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Status: offline 		Italy played with full substitude players vs Ireland not to match with Spain in the next round..
I think it showed Italy not very prestigious team. İn fact in simular situation Brasil vs Costa Rica group match, Brazil do not need to win in World Cup in 2002 for next round, But they did.. putting Turkey in 3rd place in the end.


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RE: European Championship - 6/22/2016 10:07:40 PM   
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Italy played with full substitude players vs Ireland not to match with Spain in the next round..
I think it showed Italy not very prestigious team. Similarly Brasil vs Costa Rica group match Brazil do not need to win in World Cup in 2002, But they did.. putting Turkey in 3rd place in the end.

warspite1

But because of the head to head with Belgium weren't Italy already guaranteed top spot??


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RE: European Championship - 6/22/2016 10:09:07 PM   
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RE: European Championship - 6/22/2016 10:20:33 PM   
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But because of the head to head with Belgium weren't Italy already guaranteed top spot??

Yes.

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RE: European Championship - 6/22/2016 10:21:59 PM   
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Italy played with full substitude players vs Ireland not to match with Spain in the next round..
I think it showed Italy not very prestigious team.


Italians, along with the Germans and Brazilians mean business. Competitive beasts, one head well above the other teams. A tournament must be won. Next question


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