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Has this game become vaporware? - 4/20/2016 2:51:50 PM   
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RE: Has this game become vaporware? - 4/20/2016 2:54:59 PM   
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RE: Has this game become vaporware? - 4/20/2016 3:15:10 PM   
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Status: offline 		How easy it is to beat up on a small programming team. Frustration is understandable but as I understand it is one programmer and he clearly is not responsible for marketing decisions.
Having a programming background I am completely sympathetic to the coder's situation. Their biggest mistake was ever sending out screenshots early on. That set expectations and now they are paying. But personally I think we should ease up, there are many other games out in the universe. This will arrive someday.

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RE: Has this game become vaporware? - 4/20/2016 4:37:11 PM   
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Status: offline 		Yes. Their failure was publish two early screenshots which called the attention from many people because even in the early stage, it looked awesome and very close to a old CC game. The type of game that all we have been waiting for many time.

About the game, it continues being at developing and we will know more about it when the time comes. Not before.

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RE: Has this game become vaporware? - 4/22/2016 5:26:31 PM   
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http://www.shrapnelgames.com/Shrapnel_Games/AA/AA_page.html

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RE: Has this game become vaporware? - 4/25/2016 10:21:32 PM   
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Status: offline 		It is not vaporware. That much I can confirm. :)

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RE: Has this game become vaporware? - 5/4/2016 8:25:56 PM   
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Status: offline 		I just don't understand what all the secrecy about this game is. Why can't the developers just give us updates, blogs, anything.

Your fans are here, just waiting to read anything. Having the years go by with absolutely zero progress to the public makes your "not vaporware" statement very hard to believe.

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RE: Has this game become vaporware? - 5/6/2016 10:25:45 PM   
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I just don't understand what all the secrecy about this game is. Why can't the developers just give us updates, blogs, anything.

The unique failure was show some from the game too soon. If you check around the world, you will see how most of the games without early access are not showed before they are released.

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RE: Has this game become vaporware? - 5/10/2016 3:09:06 PM   
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The unique failure was show some from the game too soon. If you check around the world, you will see how most of the games without early access are not showed before they are released.



No offense mate but this is absolutely false and, by the way, they just show us a single meager screenshot...

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RE: Has this game become vaporware? - 5/10/2016 11:32:30 PM   
Nomada_Firefox

 

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Status: offline 		False? how many games have you seen? most of the games do not show absolutely nothing before they are released. I go to tell you a example. The creators from Titan Falls are working in a SW game and we have not seen a single image.

The unique exceptions to this rule are games with betas or earlyaccess.

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RE: Has this game become vaporware? - 5/10/2016 11:37:44 PM   
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RE: Has this game become vaporware? - 5/13/2016 9:27:31 PM   
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When it is released, it should be ground breaking with a new engine, and ideas from the community.


And I suppose you ascertained that from vaporware. It may not be vaporware in the future, but for now IT IS vaporware.

Ageod got started using a single programmer who in just 2 years or so, developed the AGE game engine. After that, Ageod popped out title after title for years. We were not that lucky.

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RE: Has this game become vaporware? - 5/13/2016 10:36:10 PM   
Nomada_Firefox

 

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RE: Has this game become vaporware? - 5/21/2016 1:49:29 AM   
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Status: offline 		It will be interesting to see if TBF or AoC, both using the same engine, both being developed by long time CC veterans, gets published first. Until then Ive got a couple dozen untouched CC mods to keep me occupied.

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RE: Has this game become vaporware? - 5/21/2016 8:44:26 PM   
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ORIGINAL: mickxe5

It will be interesting to see if TBF or AoC, both using the same engine, both being developed by long time CC veterans, gets published first. Until then Ive got a couple dozen untouched CC mods to keep me occupied.



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RE: Has this game become vaporware? - 5/22/2016 10:04:49 AM   
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It will be interesting to see if TBF or AoC, both using the same engine, both being developed by long time CC veterans, gets published first. Until then Ive got a couple dozen untouched CC mods to keep me occupied.

I do not see AoC being published before if it has not a publisher and clearly they are not a biggest team, they have not any chance from finish the game before or to finish it at less time than the time used at develop the CC BF.

Remember, with AoC, they have published stuff fast because they needed sell it to one publisher (one thing without success by the moment) and clearly it remembered to the first alpha screenshots from BF. With one exception, the CCBF looked as a CC and AoC does not look as a CC.

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RE: Has this game become vaporware? - 5/26/2016 5:11:42 PM   
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Status: offline 		The Progress/Updates/Info on this is just as much as mine still working on purchasing a Duesenberg Boattail Speedster.





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RE: Has this game become vaporware? - 5/27/2016 2:33:43 AM   
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The Progress/Updates/Info on this is just as much as mine still working on purchasing a Duesenberg Boattail Speedster.







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RE: Has this game become vaporware? - 5/27/2016 10:20:44 AM   
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The Progress/Updates/Info on this is just as much as mine still working on purchasing a Duesenberg Boattail Speedster.

That Doozy will be a small step up from your current ride.





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RE: Has this game become vaporware? - 6/19/2016 11:05:04 AM   
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Status: offline 		Any info??? is a little strange see other titles in future offering images and here the same old lack of anything...

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RE: Has this game become vaporware? - 6/19/2016 4:19:25 PM   
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Any info??? is a little strange see other titles in future offering images and here the same old lack of anything...

Please tell me one game at developing with a publisher where you can know a lot of information few time before the release. Do not count early access.

Because I do not know too many titles making it. Or......do I know one single title publishing a lot of stuff before it is finished? I do not remember one.

Games publishing stuff before they are finished, they are showing it to the public because they are searching a publisher or they are early access games.

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RE: Has this game become vaporware? - 6/20/2016 7:33:25 PM   
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ORIGINAL: Nomada_Firefox

Please tell me one game at developing with a publisher where you can know a lot of information few time before the release. Do not count early access.



Again mate? Are you really serious? most of games, even "here" coming from Matrix/Slithering gave some pre-release (no on early access and even several months before the release) screenshots and gameplay info. Order of Battle: Pacific, Gary Grisgy's titles, Decisive Battle series, Pike and Shots, Sengoku Jidai: Shadow of Shogun , all Ageod's games and so on


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RE: Has this game become vaporware? - 6/20/2016 9:18:33 PM   
Nomada_Firefox

 

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ORIGINAL: Nomada_Firefox

Please tell me one game at developing with a publisher where you can know a lot of information few time before the release. Do not count early access.



Again mate? Are you really serious? most of games, even "here" coming from Matrix/Slithering gave some pre-release (no on early access and even several months before the release) screenshots and gameplay info. Order of Battle: Pacific, Gary Grisgy's titles, Decisive Battle series, Pike and Shots, Sengoku Jidai: Shadow of Shogun , all Ageod's games and so on



Sorry but most of the games from Slitherine/Matrix, they are not showed before the enter in the last beta. Other publishers make similar things.

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RE: Has this game become vaporware? - 6/23/2016 5:44:47 PM   
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Status: offline 		It is clear that there is nothing going on with this game. The only time the sole developer EVER posts is when he is trying to defend himself from the understandably frustrated and skeptical customer base.

Oh yes, many games provide information as the game is being developed. Mount and Blade II for example - a developer blog has been on going for the past 2 years. In this blog they do things like communicate and answer questions. Sometimes they even post screenshots. It's an amazing process to behold, a steady stream of monthly updates and information.

Groundbreaking.

This game has 1 developer and a few freelance artists. That shows us where its at on the priority list for Matrix/Slithering.

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RE: Has this game become vaporware? - 6/23/2016 5:48:56 PM   
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RE: Has this game become vaporware? - 6/27/2016 9:24:45 PM   
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I understand you are frustrated with the lack of updates. There is some discussion going on now about making a progress update for the community, and hopefully that will occur in the relatively near future.

Steve

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RE: Has this game become vaporware? - 6/28/2016 4:14:39 AM   
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Tactics,

I understand you are frustrated with the lack of updates. There is some discussion going on now about making a progress update for the community, and hopefully that will occur in the relatively near future.

Steve




How Pathetic,

"There's some discussion."
he says.

Some

Just some.



One can only assume that this game isn't going anywhere.

If it was the only natural reaction would be for them to be "EXCITED" about giving an update.


Instead..................they are discussing it.

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RE: Has this game become vaporware? - 6/28/2016 4:16:21 AM   
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Once I buy the car that is.


I'm still working on it.




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RE: Has this game become vaporware? - 6/28/2016 4:32:02 AM   
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RE: Has this game become vaporware? - 6/29/2016 5:24:10 PM   
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How Pathetic,

"There's some discussion."
he says.

Some

Just some.



One can only assume that this game isn't going anywhere.

If it was the only natural reaction would be for them to be "EXCITED" about giving an update.


Instead..................they are discussing it.


Or perhaps they're working to make this game as good as it can be?

It's not "pathetic" to not release a game that's unfinished. Yes, we all want a new 3D Close Combat game NOW. But I'd much rather wait a couple years and have a decent game than have them release something far too early and screw this up. It should be done when it's done and not a moment early. The more work they put in now the more benefit we'll see later when the game is released.

On the flip side, I did suggest a couple years ago that a simple development diary would be ideal, even if it was only updated once every few months. I still think it's the simple solution here. Paradox does it with their games, as do the developers of Unity of Command http://unityofcommand.net/blog/ - in their case, there's sometimes MONTHS between updates, but you don't hear people complaining about their next game not being released yet.

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