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Olympics - 8/9/2016 7:34:30 PM   
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Status: offline 		I've been following the Olympic events with interest. Is it me or have there been more injuries to individuals this year! Hope you've had a chance to watch.

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RE: Olympics - 8/9/2016 9:00:35 PM   
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I've been following the Olympic events with interest. Is it me or have there been more injuries to individuals this year! Hope you've had a chance to watch.

Yes, the number of bruised egos and sore heads is at an all time high.

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RE: Olympics - 8/9/2016 9:06:03 PM   
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RE: Olympics - 8/9/2016 11:41:55 PM   
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Please note that because a number of anti-doping rules violations procedures are still in progress – including procedures involving medalists further to the results of the retesting programmes carried out on the samples collected in Beijing 2008 and London 2012- the information contained in the list is not final



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RE: Olympics - 8/9/2016 11:48:19 PM   
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Status: offline 		Men's cycling had such a ugly accident the Olympic Committee pulled the video from YouTube.

Sorry link does not work for the Chicago tribune story



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RE: Olympics - 8/10/2016 3:39:51 AM   
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Status: offline 		I can imagine. Cycling always looks crazy to me when I see those huge packs and front wheels right next to rear wheels.

Just goggled it and read the story, no video as I really do not need to see it,

"The difficulty of the course with its technical climbs and descents and section of cobble stones was shown by the fact that only 63 of the 144 riders finished."

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RE: Olympics - 8/11/2016 5:04:08 AM   
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http://www.sbnation.com/2016/8/9/12419516/michael-phelps-gold-medal-record-leonidas-of-rhodes


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RE: Olympics - 8/11/2016 5:22:55 AM   
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I found this one interesting. Greater Olympian, Michael Phelps or Leonidas of Rhodes?

http://www.sbnation.com/2016/8/9/12419516/michael-phelps-gold-medal-record-leonidas-of-rhodes





Interesting, Phelps will need to participate (and win a gold) in the next Olympics to be the all-time record holder.

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RE: Olympics - 8/11/2016 3:16:08 PM   
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Status: offline 		I'm a tad surprise by the medal count. Seems Russia is not racking up a lot yet...does that have to do with the doping scandal ya' think? Japan and Australia certainly are making a good showing.

https://www.google.com/webhp?sourceid=chrome-instant&ion=1&espv=2&ie=UTF-8#q=medal%20count&mie=oly%2C%5B%22%2Fm%2F03tnk7%22%2C1%2C%22m%22%5D

US - 32
China - 23
Japan - 18
Russia - 15
Australia - 13
Great Britain - 12
Italy - 12

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RE: Olympics - 8/11/2016 6:32:55 PM   
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Status: offline 		I knew Russia's medal count would be down after learning their weightlifting team was disqualified along with various others in different disciplines for , yes drugging. The USA have some 500+ qualified for the games China 450+. The Russians 200+. That gives some perspective. It was something to watch when all the teams were filing into the stadium and watching Russia come in with its diminished numbers.

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RE: Olympics - 8/12/2016 4:01:33 AM   
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I found this one interesting. Greater Olympian, Michael Phelps or Leonidas of Rhodes?

http://www.sbnation.com/2016/8/9/12419516/michael-phelps-gold-medal-record-leonidas-of-rhodes






When I posted in response to your post I didn't realize Phelps had another race. So Phelps wins another Gold.

So there is no question now. Phelps is the greatest Olympian of all-time!! The most Gold Medals accumulated in all of the history of man-kind.

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RE: Olympics - 8/12/2016 4:37:42 AM   
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I found this one interesting. Greater Olympian, Michael Phelps or Leonidas of Rhodes?

http://www.sbnation.com/2016/8/9/12419516/michael-phelps-gold-medal-record-leonidas-of-rhodes






When I posted in response to your post I didn't realize Phelps had another race. So Phelps wins another Gold.

So there is no question now. Phelps is the greatest Olympian of all-time!! The most Gold Medals accumulated in all of the history of man-kind.


I agree, but I would like to see him swim in armor to top it off.

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RE: Olympics - 8/12/2016 10:43:13 AM   
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RE: Olympics - 8/12/2016 8:57:15 PM   
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Status: offline 		It was very fun watching the men's rugby. I do hope that Rugby Sevens are here to stay.

Congratulations Fiji. Well deserved.





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RE: Olympics - 8/13/2016 8:25:37 AM   
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Status: offline 		Australia usually does well early in the games when the swimming is on. We tend to fall back later when the track and field events start. Maybe this year will be different!

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RE: Olympics - 8/13/2016 1:21:11 PM   
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Status: offline 		For the Summer Olympics, the all-time ranking of medals per capita is...(Medals:Population)

1. Finland 302: 5,407,040
2. Sweden 487: 9,490,683
3. Hungary 486: 9,962,000
4. Denmark 183: 5,580,516
5. Bahamas 11: 353,658

...according to

http://www.medalspercapita.com/#medals-per-capita:all-time

Just select "All Time (Summer)" at the bottom of the drop-down box list.

Of course this doesn't take into account how many Olympics the countries have attended, which skews it towards European nations.

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RE: Olympics - 8/13/2016 5:01:19 PM   
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For the Summer Olympics, the all-time ranking of medals per capita is...(Medals:Population)

1. Finland 302: 5,407,040
2. Sweden 487: 9,490,683
3. Hungary 486: 9,962,000
4. Denmark 183: 5,580,516
5. Bahamas 11: 353,658

...according to

http://www.medalspercapita.com/#medals-per-capita:all-time

Just select "All Time (Summer)" at the bottom of the drop-down box list.

Of course this doesn't take into account how many Olympics the countries have attended, which skews it towards European nations.

Cheers, Neilster



That will probably have to be changed.

Because Fiji with a population of 18,274 now have 1 gold and IOA with 0 population has 1 gold.


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RE: Olympics - 8/14/2016 3:32:33 AM   
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quote:

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For the Summer Olympics, the all-time ranking of medals per capita is...(Medals:Population)

1. Finland 302: 5,407,040
2. Sweden 487: 9,490,683
3. Hungary 486: 9,962,000
4. Denmark 183: 5,580,516
5. Bahamas 11: 353,658

...according to

http://www.medalspercapita.com/#medals-per-capita:all-time

Just select "All Time (Summer)" at the bottom of the drop-down box list.

Of course this doesn't take into account how many Olympics the countries have attended, which skews it towards European nations.

Cheers, Neilster



That will probably have to be changed.

Because Fiji with a population of 18,274 now have 1 gold and IOA with 0 population has 1 gold.


Yes. Well done Fiji. As for IOA...the mathematician in me says division by zero is undefined

Cheers, Neilster

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RE: Olympics - 8/18/2016 6:26:26 PM   
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Status: offline 		There are a few days remaining before the Olympics are concluded. There was a discussion of the disappointment for the Country of India for not investing more money in training its athletes for the Olympics. Their athletes are frustrated with the lack of support. So I was curious as to what a country spends in training their athletes. England, spends the most 4 and a half million pounds to produce an athlete to gain a gold.


https://www.theguardian.com/sport/datablog/2012/aug/13/olympics-2012-cost-per-medal-team-gb-funding

side note: It cost 492.70 American dollars to make. an Olympic medal

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RE: Olympics - 8/19/2016 10:18:02 AM   
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RE: Olympics - 8/19/2016 12:16:39 PM   
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So I was curious as to what a country spends in training their athletes. England, spends the most 4 and a half million pounds to produce an athlete to gain a gold.


https://www.theguardian.com/sport/datablog/2012/aug/13/olympics-2012-cost-per-medal-team-gb-funding

side note: It cost 492.70 American dollars to make. an Olympic medal


I don’t know why you say ‘England’ (the UK) pays more to gain medals. The Guardian article does not claim that and I haven’t heard anyone else claim that.

Besides the Guardian article is inaccurate. They’ve taken UK Sports elite sports budget and divided it by the number of Olympic medals. The elite sports budget was used to fund a lot more than just Team GB at the Olympics. It paid for British teams at all high level events over four years. So that included the Commonwealth Games, World Athletics and European tournaments. The budget was also used to pay for Olympic quality sporting facilities.

I doubt whether it is possible to accurately compare the funding of the different teams. Who knows what the Russians and Chinese are spending. Moreover, you will probably get more per Pound or dollar in China or Russia than in the West.

This Australian article has attempted to compare spending for the Rio games.

http://www.news.com.au/sport/olympics/is-australias-disastrous-olympic-campaign-really-340-million-well-spent/news-story/b6d9d7211136bbc8309939e42ec6e471

If this article is accurate Team GB has done relatively well for the money we have spent.



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RE: Olympics - 8/19/2016 1:21:15 PM   
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Status: offline 		Dont know if its true but the Danish comentators keep commenting on that for example the British sailing budget/support is larger than the entire Danish budget for all the attending sports going to the top end athletes.

Any how the larger the country the trend presumably is that of more spend per athlete.

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RE: Olympics - 8/20/2016 4:00:37 AM   
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Status: offline 		Hmmm, okay, the Header says GB, that is England isn't it? Or is there a distinction to be made?
In the below link it says estimated spending by GB is 15million pounds. So that one says its more then the previous link. Though your right that its not accurate to say GB pays the most of all countries, that data is unknown.

http://debatewise.org/images/debatewiselogo.png

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RE: Olympics - 8/20/2016 12:34:45 PM   
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Hmmm, GB (Great Britain) and England aren't the same thing. England is part of GB. Scotland and Wales are also part of it. So some of the competitors in Team GB are not from England. Andy Murray being one example.

The link you posted goes to a logo. Where is the 'debate' you mentioned?

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RE: Olympics - 8/20/2016 1:13:03 PM   
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Status: offline 		This is Chloe Esposito who won gold for Australia in the "Modern" Pentathlon. I use the inverted commas because the five disciplines (running, swimming, equestrian, fencing and shooting) represent those a late 19th Century cavalry officer would need to escape from behind enemy lines. No joke.

I've been bagging the event for years for this reason but she's cute and has won gold, so now everyone's suddenly taking it very seriously. It is very tough actually, as the entire thing takes place in one day and they're only assigned their horse 20 minutes before riding it in competition.

This isn't even a good photo of her. I saw her on telly the other day and she has stunning eyes. Anyway, I thought the cavalry officer bit would be appropriate for a wargaming site

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RE: Olympics - 8/22/2016 6:59:21 AM   
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Hmmm, okay, the Header says GB, that is England isn't it? Or is there a distinction to be made?
In the below link it says estimated spending by GB is 15million pounds. So that one says its more then the previous link. Though your right that its not accurate to say GB pays the most of all countries, that data is unknown.

http://debatewise.org/images/debatewiselogo.png
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I cannot read the link you posted but the other two links just go to prove the old saying - there are lies, damned lies and statistics.

No doubt the numbers can be worked in a variety of ways to make whatever point one wants to make. Clearly unless the numbers are calculated fairly and on the same basis then these are fairly meaningless articles.

As to the England/GB/UK thing, this seems to be a common thing with non-Britons i.e. that England gets used incorrectly. When most people do it I am sure it is simply an unintentional mistake to use England when referring to the UK or GB - and as such is no problem (although I can imagine the Scots, Welsh and Northern Irish being less impressed ).

However, I read an article in the Washington Post the other day that was supposedly written by someone who knows something about history and yet the author referred to England when talking about a event in 1944, not 1544. That is a problem and really grates for being lazy and half-arsed .


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RE: Olympics - 8/22/2016 9:07:00 AM   
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RE: Olympics - 8/22/2016 9:30:38 AM   
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Well second is bloody good for a faded ex-imperialist power. And Americans really want to be Brits after realising that the awful tantrum in 1776 was just a lover's tiff. Don't they :)

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Great steamers, white and gold,

Go rolling down to Rio

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And I’d like to roll to Rio

Some day before I’m old!

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That's Kipling for ya.

I spent a year in Rio in 1982/3 - time of the Falklands war. Our last imperial gasp.

I really must roll down to Rio again.

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RE: Olympics - 8/22/2016 4:23:25 PM   
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RE: Olympics - 8/22/2016 5:10:52 PM   
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...... time of the Falklands war. Our last imperial gasp.

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Last imperial gasp? Sorry but what does that mean?

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