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OT - CG Battle of Santa Cruz - 9/12/2016 6:18:04 PM   
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RE: OT - CG Battle of Santa Cruz - 9/12/2016 7:15:18 PM   
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RE: OT - CG Battle of Santa Cruz - 9/12/2016 7:45:27 PM   
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Very nice! Tks.

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RE: OT - CG Battle of Santa Cruz - 9/12/2016 9:21:57 PM   
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RE: OT - CG Battle of Santa Cruz - 9/12/2016 9:29:46 PM   
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RE: OT - CG Battle of Santa Cruz - 9/12/2016 9:36:01 PM   
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NoD85qZhkWY

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RE: OT - CG Battle of Santa Cruz - 9/13/2016 12:35:30 AM   
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RE: OT - CG Battle of Santa Cruz - 9/13/2016 4:28:08 AM   
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Torpedo explosion plume on Hornet didn't seem realistic, but what do I know? Looked small and more like a bomb explosion.

SBD attacks shortly thereafter appeared to be glide bombing, not dive bombing. Was this actually the case? I'd be surprised if so.

When it says the IJN forces were ordered to turn to the east, the ships are shown turning to starboard... given their headings from the N of Guadalcanal to the SE, wouldn't this mean they turned to the south or even the west?

5 bombs from "Zuikaku's 3rd Strike Force" are shown exploding simultaneously around Hornet, from an apparently level bombing attack. Also seems odd.

IJN surface forces are depicted firing on the ships attempting to scuttle Hornet, which AFAIK never happened, although they were apparently only 30 minutes or so away from visual spotting range.



But yes, still kinda neat. Of note, I'd forgotten about the History Channel's "Battle 360" show, which showed up as the "next up" from YouTube after finishing this watch. They did an episode on this battle also.

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RE: OT - CG Battle of Santa Cruz - 9/13/2016 11:20:09 AM   
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RE: OT - CG Battle of Santa Cruz - 9/13/2016 2:06:23 PM   
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RE: OT - CG Battle of Santa Cruz - 9/13/2016 4:44:01 PM   
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RE: OT - CG Battle of Santa Cruz - 9/13/2016 5:14:15 PM   
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Is it true the scouts misidentified one of the US carriers as Saratoga? Which one?

Could be either Enterprise or Hornet -same class. Japanese carriers had small islands with their smokestacks being down along the side of the ship. The US carriers had their smokestacks together in a big rectangle at the back of the bridge/island structure so at a distance they would likely look similar. The float plane was probably dodging CAP and unlikely to get close enough to see gun arrangements and such.

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RE: OT - CG Battle of Santa Cruz - 9/13/2016 5:18:42 PM   
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RE: OT - CG Battle of Santa Cruz - 9/13/2016 5:26:36 PM   
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Do you mean that a scout who could mistake one of them for a Lexington class could have mistaken either and we don't know which it was?

Well, I don't know which it was, or whether it really happened or was just something added to give the video some FOW flavour. I think the Japanese did believe that they had sunk Enterprise at Eastern Solomons, so if Hornet had already been reported by another aircraft the pilot might have been expecting a second carrier to be Saratoga.
In any case it doesn't really matter to the conduct of the battle which carrier it was - just that the Japanese now had a fix on that group.

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RE: OT - CG Battle of Santa Cruz - 9/13/2016 5:45:59 PM   
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RE: OT - CG Battle of Santa Cruz - 9/13/2016 7:32:24 PM   
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RE: OT - CG Battle of Santa Cruz - 9/13/2016 7:39:22 PM   
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Kongo-class at Guadalcanal

Sinking of Force Z

Raid on Ceylon

among those.

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RE: OT - CG Battle of Santa Cruz - 9/13/2016 7:53:28 PM   
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RE: OT - CG Battle of Santa Cruz - 9/13/2016 9:48:23 PM   
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ORIGINAL: RFalvo69

This one is from 2008 - as the opening screen shows. It is the first time, however, that I see it with English captions. When I showed it to my friends I used to narrate what was happening based on my knowledge of the battle


Well, that's a hell of a lot better than just any old cook.

in reference to his signature:


"Yes darling, I served in the Navy for eight years. I was a cook..."
"Oh dad... so you were a God-damned cook?"

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< Message edited by geofflambert -- 9/13/2016 9:50:59 PM >

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RE: OT - CG Battle of Santa Cruz - 9/13/2016 10:50:13 PM   
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quote:

ORIGINAL: RFalvo69

This one is from 2008 - as the opening screen shows. It is the first time, however, that I see it with English captions. When I showed it to my friends I used to narrate what was happening based on my knowledge of the battle


Well, that's a hell of a lot better than just any old cook.


Considering that now I own and run a restaurant, I can say that the Navy built me a career

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RE: OT - CG Battle of Santa Cruz - 9/13/2016 11:33:53 PM   
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RE: OT - CG Battle of Santa Cruz - 9/13/2016 11:56:51 PM   
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RE: OT - CG Battle of Santa Cruz - 9/14/2016 3:39:17 AM   
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RE: OT - CG Battle of Santa Cruz - 9/14/2016 8:19:01 AM   
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ORIGINAL: geofflambert

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ORIGINAL: RFalvo69

This one is from 2008 - as the opening screen shows. It is the first time, however, that I see it with English captions. When I showed it to my friends I used to narrate what was happening based on my knowledge of the battle


Well, that's a hell of a lot better than just any old cook.

in reference to his signature:


"Yes darling, I served in the Navy for eight years. I was a cook..."
"Oh dad... so you were a God-damned cook?"


(My 10 years old daughter after watching "The Hunt for Red October")


Better show that daughter "Under Siege", in which Steven Segal plays a cook. A truly God-damned cook! Just ask the terrorist leader!

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RE: OT - CG Battle of Santa Cruz - 9/14/2016 8:21:30 AM   
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ORIGINAL: geofflambert

quote:

ORIGINAL: RFalvo69

This one is from 2008 - as the opening screen shows. It is the first time, however, that I see it with English captions. When I showed it to my friends I used to narrate what was happening based on my knowledge of the battle


Well, that's a hell of a lot better than just any old cook.

in reference to his signature:


"Yes darling, I served in the Navy for eight years. I was a cook..."
"Oh dad... so you were a God-damned cook?"


(My 10 years old daughter after watching "The Hunt for Red October")


Better show that daughter "Under Siege", in which Steven Segal plays a cook. A truly God-damned cook! Just ask the terrorist leader!
warspite1

No, not a God damned cook but:

Jordan Tate: So who are you? Are you-you, like, some special forces guy or something?

Casey Ryback: Nah. I'm just a cook.

Jordan Tate: A cook?

Casey Ryback: [whispering] Just a lowly, lowly cook.

Jordan Tate: Oh, my God, we're gonna die.



I love that film. Tommy Lee Jones was superb.... as was Elena Eleniak's(?) bottom.

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RE: OT - CG Battle of Santa Cruz - 9/14/2016 8:22:16 AM   
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Truly amazing what CG graphics can do these days. This one impressed the heck out of me.

Battle of Santa Cruz
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But back on topic, thanks for posting. I enjoyed that.


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RE: OT - CG Battle of Santa Cruz - 9/14/2016 11:58:08 AM   
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RE: OT - CG Battle of Santa Cruz - 9/14/2016 6:47:02 PM   
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That was impressive. I want more!
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Of what? Are you referring to CGI battle re-enactments or Elena Eleniak's exquisite derriere?





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RE: OT - CG Battle of Santa Cruz - 9/15/2016 8:07:29 AM   
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I've lately gotten into an old military channel series called Battle 360. It's a 10-part series about the [I]Enterprise[/I]'s campaign in the Pacific, and also uses a lot of CG, though they also re-use a lot of it...


Not to mention they re-use a lot of the same descriptive dialogue. "Dead in its sights", for example. Pick a new turn of phrase, please please please...

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