I don't think we will see what CG can do with an aerial combat scene until Peter Jackson, or another aviation buff with his talent and resources, gets interested in a WWII story. I haven't seen anything that matches his final action scene in King Kong. He even replicated the aircraft and unit markings of the squadron that Willis O'Brien used in the 1932 film.
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Kinda neat. Quibbles:
Torpedo explosion plume on Hornet didn't seem realistic, but what do I know? Looked small and more like a bomb explosion.
SBD attacks shortly thereafter appeared to be glide bombing, not dive bombing. Was this actually the case? I'd be surprised if so.
When it says the IJN forces were ordered to turn to the east, the ships are shown turning to starboard... given their headings from the N of Guadalcanal to the SE, wouldn't this mean they turned to the south or even the west?
5 bombs from "Zuikaku's 3rd Strike Force" are shown exploding simultaneously around Hornet, from an apparently level bombing attack. Also seems odd.
IJN surface forces are depicted firing on the ships attempting to scuttle Hornet, which AFAIK never happened, although they were apparently only 30 minutes or so away from visual spotting range.
But yes, still kinda neat. Of note, I'd forgotten about the History Channel's "Battle 360" show, which showed up as the "next up" from YouTube after finishing this watch. They did an episode on this battle also.
Is it true the scouts misidentified one of the US carriers as Saratoga? Which one?
Could be either Enterprise or Hornet -same class. Japanese carriers had small islands with their smokestacks being down along the side of the ship. The US carriers had their smokestacks together in a big rectangle at the back of the bridge/island structure so at a distance they would likely look similar. The float plane was probably dodging CAP and unlikely to get close enough to see gun arrangements and such.
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Do you mean that a scout who could mistake one of them for a Lexington class could have mistaken either and we don't know which it was?
Well, I don't know which it was, or whether it really happened or was just something added to give the video some FOW flavour. I think the Japanese did believe that they had sunk Enterprise at Eastern Solomons, so if Hornet had already been reported by another aircraft the pilot might have been expecting a second carrier to be Saratoga. In any case it doesn't really matter to the conduct of the battle which carrier it was - just that the Japanese now had a fix on that group.
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Wow! Great animation! I had to stop watching after a while as I couldn't take the suspense. I felt my heart sink when the Hornet got hit with the torpedoes. I tend to get really immersed in movies and stuff.
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This one is from 2008 - as the opening screen shows. It is the first time, however, that I see it with English captions. When I showed it to my friends I used to narrate what was happening based on my knowledge of the battle
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This one is from 2008 - as the opening screen shows. It is the first time, however, that I see it with English captions. When I showed it to my friends I used to narrate what was happening based on my knowledge of the battle
Well, that's a hell of a lot better than just any old cook.
in reference to his signature:
"Yes darling, I served in the Navy for eight years. I was a cook..." "Oh dad... so you were a God-damned cook?"
(My 10 years old daughter after watching "The Hunt for Red October")
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This one is from 2008 - as the opening screen shows. It is the first time, however, that I see it with English captions. When I showed it to my friends I used to narrate what was happening based on my knowledge of the battle
Well, that's a hell of a lot better than just any old cook.
Considering that now I own and run a restaurant, I can say that the Navy built me a career
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I've lately gotten into an old military channel series called Battle 360. It's a 10-part series about the [I]Enterprise[/I]'s campaign in the Pacific, and also uses a lot of CG, though they also re-use a lot of it...
This one is from 2008 - as the opening screen shows. It is the first time, however, that I see it with English captions. When I showed it to my friends I used to narrate what was happening based on my knowledge of the battle
Well, that's a hell of a lot better than just any old cook.
in reference to his signature:
"Yes darling, I served in the Navy for eight years. I was a cook..." "Oh dad... so you were a God-damned cook?"
(My 10 years old daughter after watching "The Hunt for Red October")
Better show that daughter "Under Siege", in which Steven Segal plays a cook. A truly God-damned cook! Just ask the terrorist leader!
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This one is from 2008 - as the opening screen shows. It is the first time, however, that I see it with English captions. When I showed it to my friends I used to narrate what was happening based on my knowledge of the battle
Well, that's a hell of a lot better than just any old cook.
in reference to his signature:
"Yes darling, I served in the Navy for eight years. I was a cook..." "Oh dad... so you were a God-damned cook?"
(My 10 years old daughter after watching "The Hunt for Red October")
Better show that daughter "Under Siege", in which Steven Segal plays a cook. A truly God-damned cook! Just ask the terrorist leader!
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No, not a God damned cook but:
Jordan Tate: So who are you? Are you-you, like, some special forces guy or something?
Casey Ryback: Nah. I'm just a cook.
Jordan Tate: A cook?
Casey Ryback: [whispering] Just a lowly, lowly cook.
Jordan Tate: Oh, my God, we're gonna die.
I love that film. Tommy Lee Jones was superb.... as was Elena Eleniak's(?) bottom.
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I've lately gotten into an old military channel series called Battle 360. It's a 10-part series about the [I]Enterprise[/I]'s campaign in the Pacific, and also uses a lot of CG, though they also re-use a lot of it...
Not to mention they re-use a lot of the same descriptive dialogue. "Dead in its sights", for example. Pick a new turn of phrase, please please please...
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