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RE: Saving MacArthur - Rookie AAR - 8/19/2016 12:31:25 AM   
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PT boat creation is limited to US bases and US transport and/or cargo TFs. I forget the limit on TFs. The TF needs to have enough supply to create TFs. If the conditions are met, the TF screen will get a Create PT Boats button.

Bill

But I presume British MTBs (sometimes called PTs by those treating all torpedo boats as generic) can be created at a British Port?

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RE: Saving MacArthur - Rookie AAR - 8/19/2016 7:28:52 AM   
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quote:

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PT boat creation is limited to US bases and US transport and/or cargo TFs. I forget the limit on TFs. The TF needs to have enough supply to create TFs. If the conditions are met, the TF screen will get a Create PT Boats button.

Bill

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But I presume British MTBs (sometimes called PTs by those treating all torpedo boats as generic) can be created at a British Port?


If I remember right, they can only be created by British or Indian ports or TFs. Possibly Australia or NZ too.

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RE: Saving MacArthur - Rookie AAR - 8/19/2016 7:46:36 AM   
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I don't normally read this AAR.  Thus questions unanswered here should be raised in the main AE forum (or War Room).

Post #5 in this Oct 2015 thread details what is needed to create PT Boats.

http://www.matrixgames.com/forums/tm.asp?m=3945331&mpage=1&key=Boats&#3946018

They are nation specific so need to be nation location specific.

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RE: Saving MacArthur - Rookie AAR - 8/19/2016 10:26:35 AM   
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quote:

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quote:

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PT boat creation is limited to US bases and US transport and/or cargo TFs. I forget the limit on TFs. The TF needs to have enough supply to create TFs. If the conditions are met, the TF screen will get a Create PT Boats button.

Bill



But I presume British MTBs (sometimes called PTs by those treating all torpedo boats as generic) can be created at
a British Port?


Thank you, Bill - while I've had PT's in use for some time (I'm in Feb. '73) no (British) MTB's have shown up
on the ships available list as of yet - only MGB's (Motor Gun Boats) and ML's (Motor Launches).

I suppose I have to create a US-sponsored base somewhere in the Andamans and send a large US transport TF there....
Not that this is that important but a PT force in Langwaki would do good for business, I think...

Fred




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RE: Saving MacArthur - Rookie AAR - 8/19/2016 10:35:48 AM   
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quote:

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I don't normally read this AAR.  Thus questions unanswered here should be raised in the main AE forum (or War Room).

Post #5 in this Oct 2015 thread details what is needed to create PT Boats.

http://www.matrixgames.com/forums/tm.asp?m=3945331&mpage=1&key=Boats�

They are nation specific so need to be nation location specific.

Alfred


Thank you, Alfred - getting the picture now.

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RE: Saving MacArthur - Rookie AAR - 8/19/2016 11:03:25 AM   
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Now is the question - how to turn a little base in the Andamans or Malacca Strait into US or Australian. Would a landing of troops from those countries suffice?

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RE: Saving MacArthur - Rookie AAR - 8/19/2016 11:26:09 AM   
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If you want to change the nationality of a base move a unit there of the nationality you want to change it to and then click on the base HQ yellow link and select a new HQ.

You don't have to change base ownership though, all you need to do is have a cargo (possibly transport TF) with an American flagship and enough supply in the TF to create the PTs. I can't recall if it needs to be docked or not, but when the conditions are met, the TF's screen will have a Create PTs link on it.

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RE: Saving MacArthur - Rookie AAR - 8/19/2016 12:35:40 PM   
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quote:

ORIGINAL: wdolson

If you want to change the nationality of a base move a unit there of the nationality you want to change it to and then click on the base HQ yellow link and select a new HQ.

You don't have to change base ownership though, all you need to do is have a cargo (possibly transport TF) with an American flagship and enough supply in the TF to create the PTs. I can't recall if it needs to be docked or not, but when the conditions are met, the TF's screen will have a Create PTs link on it.

Bill


Tks - even better. Thank you all for the assistance. Incidentally, I have a large TF enroute Abadan-Darwin, just
passing Ceylon, that I shall test this with.


Fred

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RE: Saving MacArthur - Rookie AAR - 8/19/2016 1:06:15 PM   
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Sitrap February 9th 1943 – afternoon

The enemy forces besieging Akyab (3rd Army Group) have been annihilated! Several days of concentrated bombing by units flying from Akyab and Chittagong, artillery barrages and frontal assaults, resulted in a surrounding of the enemy on the 7th which led to their total defeat today. This frees up more than 75.000 British troops and coincides with further Chinese reinforcements arriving east of Mandalay.

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RE: Saving MacArthur - Rookie AAR - 8/23/2016 10:27:02 PM   
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Sitrap February 13th 1943 – afternoon

After a long period of little naval enemy activity in the Andaman Sea, two days ago a task force suddenly popped up outside Sabang in the early morning. As warnings had been given by enemy radio traffic several transports had left the port and light cruiser Caradoc with two destroyers were patrolling on the outside. After a short fire fight in low visibility the enemy unit withdrew for unknown reasons but not before they were identified as, among them, two heavy cruisers, probably Chikuma and Aoba. The British ships got away with only a couple of hits. It could have gone much worse. The enemy unit withdrew south - the day after they were nowhere to be found. However, another task force was found south-east of Port Blair by the light cruisers Enterprise and Dauntless as they were steaming full speed from Akyab to Sabang to assist their friends there. Again, there was only a brief encounter in which the RN cruisers claimed torpedo hits on an enemy battleship believed to be the Kirishima. Later some radio traffic was intercepted that indicated she had gone down. She was with another battleship, several cruisers and destroyers. Again, this morning nothing to see of the enemy vessels.

A strategic view:

Mandalay: Relatively equal forces stand against each other here, the allied units being four small Chinese divisions, 23rd British Bde. and the 77th Chindits. Three more Chinese divisions are approaching fast from the east.

Katha: A Chinese division has reinforced an Indian, the BFF brigade and the 11th Chindits. 4th Assam rifles, a battalion-sized unit, has been able to cut the road south of Katha, hopefully strangling the enemy supply situation. 25th armoured Bde. and two Indian artillery battalion are struggling to reach the Assamites through the jungle. A strong British bombing campaign is carried out against Katha with units flying from Chittagong and Akyab.

Akyab: The enemy forces besieging Akyab has been destroyed or routed. The 19th infantry division with complementary units is now crossing the Kaladan River to proceed down the coastal road to Prome. Other units are preparing to cross over to the Mandalay road to bar that enemy supply route to the north.

With the successful British defense of Akyab and the annihilation of the enemy forces there more than 70.000 troops have been relieved for other purposes. It is good hope that this shall soon make it possible for the Chinese forces in Burma to return to their homeland. They are sorely needed there, too, the enemy has had some successes in the central part of China lately. East of Canton/Hong Kong they have been stalled with the help of the US ground forces.

Sabang: The defense is holding up well but so far the enemy has been able to receive supplies and reinforcements through the coastal villages farther south in the Malaccan Strait. But there is a distinct feeling that the force ratio is improving to the benefit of the British. First part of the 9th Australian division has just started to arrive in Sabang. As soon as, if, Katha is taken, more bomber units shall transfer to Sabang for an all-out offensive.

China: Two US divisions plus are now ashore and operating in the Amoy-Kanhsien-Canton triangle. Swatow is also in our hands.

The Philippines: The western side of the Philippines is for a large part in allied hands, excepting the central part of Luzon with Manila and Bataan, stretching up to Iba.

Celebes: The occupation of the south-western part of Celebes has developed into a wasteful operation. Originally, it was meant to be executed by the Aussies but after the failed US landing in Bandjermasin much US forces have been held up there. On sight these shall be withdrawn, eventually with only naval and/or air forces remaining to assist the Aussies. Closing the Celebes Strait, however, is important.

The question now is whether to divert more US forces to China or to use them elsewhere. If they are to be used in China, should we wait till the Chinese forces return from Burma or should rather Luzon be cleaned completely first? Actually, the enemy is relatively weak on Luzon, his main strength is concentrated around Manila and Bataan up to Iba. He is still holding Laoag in the north-western tip of Luzon, but is virtually surrounded there with allied forces holding Vigan and Aparri. Southern Luzon is very weakly held. With the present sea blockade he has problems in both supplying and reinforcing his forces on Luzon.

No resources shall be used on offensive operations in the Western Pacific. Any major enemy advances there are, according to MacArthur, unlikely at this stage as the Japanese have lost an estimated 1.000 ships, most of them transports, since the war started. This would only weaken him even more and open up for more bleeding of his naval forces. Important is the fact that the enemy has lost at least two capital carriers while all US are still intact together with several escort carriers. In a few days the RN carrier Victorious shall also arrive in the Pacific.

The war in the air is also improving, it is clear to see by the statistics that both the enemy’s qualities as well as his quantities have diminished considerably as the allies’ are only improving.

There has been some lack of both supplies and fuel in the Theatre lately but this is now improving with new transports leaving the wharfs every day. The Japanese submarine fleet is keeping up its pace, though. Seemingly no deterioration in neither quality nor quantity there.

Interesting times!

Fred

P.S.: The blockade system can be seen on the map.




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RE: Saving MacArthur - Rookie AAR - 8/30/2016 1:12:14 PM   
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Sitrap February 19th 1943 – afternoon

The IJN submarine fleet has done some good hunting the last three days. Five allied ships sunk without any Japanese losses, among them the light cruiser Perth sunk near Swatow by enemy torpedo-bombers flying out of Okinawa.

It was believed that the enemy large ships recently operating in the Andaman Sea had withdrawn, mainly because a dozen bomb hits were claimed on them by Catalina and Vengeance units flying from Port Blair and Sabang. They were also involved in a skirmish with an allied cruiser force south of Port Blair. This morning, however, enemy cruisers Atago and Yubari with two destroyers showed up outside Sabang. They ran into the Indian guard ships Indus and Hindustan. Both were sunk but the fight warned a large naval allied task force in the port. As this was discovered by the Japanese, they luckily withdrew. Luckily because most of the allied ships had suffered damages in earlier fights and was really about to leave for repairs in Colombo. Also, a large convoy carrying the main part of the 9th Australian Division was about to enter Sabang from the north, which they safely achieved.

Later in the day battleship Hiei and heavy cruiser Atago were spotted south-east of Sabang, heading south. Repeated attacks by Catalina and Vengeance units yielded no known results.

The excitement is rising in Sabang now that the 9th Australian Division is landing there. When shall the south-bound campaign start? Unfortunately, the latter days’ damages on RN ships necessitates an overhaul in Colombo for some of them. They are needed for the artillery support.

The massive transfer of US forces, mainly Marines, out of Macassar to Cagayan, Mindanao, is now well under way. Amphibious vessels and ships are being assembled on Mindanao but still no decision on how troops and ships shall be utilized. Quite a few landing crafts are now about to arrive in the area.

The Tasmanian Sea blockade is broken off, too little results for such a large operation. Watch shall be kept up by scout planes operating from Dunedin, NZ and Hobart, Tasmania. Typically, this day a Hudson reported a small enemy convoy heading east.

The withdrawn submarines are re-directed to the Solomon Sea, specifically to attack transports supplying Buna and Salamaua. The three escort carriers shall have a few days’ rest in Hobart before they proceed north.

Carrier Lexington has finished what repairs are possible in Brisbane after her torpedo hit some time back. She is now transferring to Pearl Harbor for final repairs, accompanied by two destroyers.

A large backlog of unfinished repairs of ships in various ports are now being organised for transfer to the wharfs in Brisbane, Sydney and Melbourne.

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RE: Saving MacArthur - Rookie AAR - 9/2/2016 10:18:33 PM   
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Sitrap Feb. 24th 1943 – afternoon

The British have done impressively well in Burma and on Sumatra the last few days. Their losses at sea, however, have been considerable, not so much in sunk ships as in damaged. The constant night actions the last week necessitates that all ships except a couple of destroyers must withdraw to the Colombo shipyard for repairs. It was believed to be safe now, two days have gone without an enemy in sight. This afternoon, however, another enemy battle force was reported south of Georgetown, heading north. It was claimed by the PBY that no less than the Yamato was leading it. All bomber forces on Langkawi, Sabang and in Port Blair have been re-missioned from ground attack to naval patrols.

This was actually no problem as two days ago the enemy forces besieging Sabang were beaten off, they are now retreating towards Langsa. This freed up the bomber forces. A powerful unit, consisting of the 2nd Recce Regt. and the 16th, 63rd and 84th Indian Bdes, are being organised for the advance down the eastern side of Sumatra.

At the same time an opportunity suddenly occurred. Allied agents in Singora, on the eastern side of the Malaccan Peninsula, reported that the town and area around it had been totally emptied for Japanese forces. They had moved east across the peninsula to Alor Star, probably sent to reinforce their fleeing force on Sumatra. This opportunity was immediately grasped by the British leadership. C-47 transports were transferred to Langkawi and the first loads of the Indian Paras (1.100 troops) that took Langkawi have already landed in and around Singora. No fighting has been reported. If Singora can be held, and expanded, it can be developed into a bomber field controlling the Bangok approaches. However, all supplies must go overland or by air. In-between is the enemy Alor Star garrison and the British has little amphibious capacity to drive them out. This operation shall be on a very tight string.

East of Akyab the British force have crossed the river delta and are assembling on the road leading to Prome in the south. Making ready to advance south are the 267th Armd. Bde and the 16th Cavalry Regt. 19th and 23rd Indian Divisions are making ready to follow them. Planned to cross over to the east and the Mandalay road is the 14th British Bde.

In northern Burma new Chinese divisions are pouring in. So far, they are just concentrating forces. No initiative shall be taken until the advance south towards Prome has gained momentum.

Strangely enough, the British advances have left MacArthur’s command in a sort of gloom. Their own successes are somewhat subdued, not easy to read clearly. The Chinese operation is proceeding according to plan, force build-up is going at a steady pace. The blockade of the enemy supplies is also supposed to work well, even if it is difficult to verify. What is certain is that he looks more or less paralyzed.

However, something large is brewing. A large carrier task force is assembling in Puerto Princesa on the island of Palawan and the task force that formerly blockaded the Tasmanian Sea is now under way for the north-western coast of Australia, taking the western route. Its main part consists of six escort carriers.

A large force of Marines is reorganising in Cabayan, Mindanao, and dozens of landing craft are assembled just across the sound from Cabayan.

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RE: Saving MacArthur - Rookie AAR - 9/3/2016 10:59:14 AM   
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Sitrap Feb. 25th 1943 – afternoon

It wasn’t the Yamato – it was the Musashi! While the air forces which were concentrated against the north-bound battleship formation achieved very little – nothing, actually – a Dutch submarine claimed two torpedo hits on an enemy battleship. Signal intelligence confirmed that it had gone down and that it was the Musashi. Two enemy battleships down in a few days – not bad! However, this is the umpteenth time Kirishima is reported sunk.

Strangely, the original formation seems to have split. One part continued north, it has passed Pukhet, seemingly heading for Rangoon. The other has turned around, obviously returning to Singapore. This could indicate that they are escorting a damaged ship.

One may ask what is the purpose of these constant expeditions by his valuable heavy ships. Is he transporting troops in lack of regular transports? After all, he have lost more than 1.000 of them.

Fred

P.S.: As can be seen the enemy submariners have been quite busy, too.





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RE: Saving MacArthur - Rookie AAR - 9/3/2016 3:12:14 PM   
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Unless you got a magazine explosion, two torpedoes will not sink Yamato/Musashi. The Intel guys will always put any ship hit by a torpedo on the sunk list. It will be taken off later! So that TF heading to Singapore will be the BB torpedoed, and if it has been slowed enough your subs might get another chance ... and bombers like cripples too!



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RE: Saving MacArthur - Rookie AAR - 9/3/2016 4:01:46 PM   
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Two dutch torpedoes.. I would say you have caused some system damage, perhaps engine damage and between 10 and 40 heavy float... Enough for 3 to 14 weeks of yardtime...

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RE: Saving MacArthur - Rookie AAR - 9/3/2016 4:42:55 PM   
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Unless you got a magazine explosion, two torpedoes will not sink Yamato/Musashi. The Intel guys will always put any ship hit by a torpedo on the sunk list. It will be taken off later! So that TF heading to Singapore will be the BB torpedoed, and if it has been slowed enough your subs might get another chance ... and bombers like cripples too!




Thank you, BB (and KS) I'm not in any way certain of its sinking. That it eventually has gone to the shipyard in
Singapore amplifies an idea I have had for some time. I can't reach it with land bombers so I consider going for
a "Tirpitz"......

Anyway, I suspect his Singapore wharf is stuffed with ships under repair. First I shall repeat the Hong Kong show.

Fred



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RE: Saving MacArthur - Rookie AAR - 9/7/2016 5:26:25 PM   
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Sitrap March 3rd 1943 - afternoon

And a real show it was - mainly performed by various nocturnal naval actions into Canton and Hong Kong ports but also
air strikes from a carrier force hovering in the South China Sea, south of Hong Kong. A couple of dozen landing
crafts were sunk, the last one only today by a destroyer patrol just west of the Pescadores. One more day and the
carrier force shall return to Puerto Princesa on Palawan where it shall join up with other carriers for an important
secret mission.

This carrier force is rounding up its mission by bombing the enemy ground forces in Canton in preparation for a
land attack by US and Chinese forces. This has now lasted for two days. The first day was more or less an even
break, enemy fortifications were reduced. The second day heavy losses were incurred on the enemy. Tomorrow they are
expected to break completely.

Much of the same can be said of the situation around Buna, New Guinea. Tomorrow shall be the third day in row that
the Aussie forces are attacking. There, too, the enemy is at his breaking point.

British and Chinese forces are also ready to start an all-out attack on the enemy in Katha where he is barring the
way south. East of Mandalay our forces have started an advance into Mandalay to drive him out of that important
base. Another force is well on their way along an eastern route that can bring them in south of Mandalay if he is
not breaking there.

The British forces advancing south from Akyab are now half-way to the road-crossing taking them east to Prome.

Fred


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Sitrap March 4th 1943 – afternoon.

What a day! All our hopes were full-filled. The enemy broke all over the place. He has been thrown out of Canton by US, mainly the 32nd ID, and Chinese forces, he is now retreating south to Hong Kong hotly pursued by our mobile units. In Buna, New Guinea, he is withdrawing north to Salamaua and in Katha in northern Burma he was chased into the jungle. His retreat route south to Shwebo was barred by an Assamite battalion that has had time to dig in across it. Now the way south is open to our forces.

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RE: Saving MacArthur - Rookie AAR - 9/13/2016 12:37:20 PM   
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Sitrap March 12th 1943 – afternoon.

The British success in Burma continues. Today two enemy-held cities, Shwebo and Meiktila in Northern Burma, were over-run by a combination of Chinese and British troops. This leaves only Mandalay in that area, which is heavily defended by the Japanese. Three days in row the allied forces surrounding the city have tried to storm it, but to little avail, they have been beaten back with heavy losses. The British leadership are quite keen to get it over with as the enemy has strong air forces there which are pestering the supply ship traffic to Akyab. Their air forces have increased dramatically in the later period to the extent that the fighter defense in Akyab has started to break down. One recent bomber mission was escorted by approximately 80 Oscar fighters. Now that the cities around Mandalay have fallen it should be possible to build up a strengthened attack force. But, it shall take some days.

In the mean-time Rangoon is threatened by the British, too. Prome was captured yesterday by the 16th Light Cavalry, 267th Armd. Bde. and the 2nd RTR. Half-way between Akyab and Prome, on the coastal road, is the 19th ID. The enemy withdrew from Prome south towards Rangoon. It is considered that Rangoon is not well defended, a result of the Japanese build-up to take Akyab, in which they failed.

During the last week there have been repeated new incursions up the Malaccan Strait and into the Andaman Sea, battleships Kongo and Haruna have both been sighted. A battleship force ravaged Port Blair, three transports were sunk but they never ventured into Sabang where the RN forces were concentrated. As a reduced enemy cruiser force tried they were met by heavy cruiser Frobisher and several destroyers in the open sea. Light cruiser Emerald had also just joined up, fresh down from the wharf in Colombo. It was a resounding success. Damage on all enemy ships and one destroyer sunk with a minimum of damage to own ships. Heavy cruiser Tone is also claimed sunk in the aftermath, by bombers flying out of Sabang, though with much loss of aircraft. An enemy light cruiser was sunk by submarine south in the Malaccan Strait when returning to Singapore. A rare occasion. Hopefully they have learnt a lesson now.

The constant cry from the British for help in stopping the enemy traffic up the Malaccan Strait is now evolving into a massive US effort to minimize Singapore as an enemy base. More to come.

The combined operations in China have gone well, too. After the capture of Canton the road south to Hong Kong has been cleared but it is decided to leave that city alone for the time being. It is well defended. In the mean-time most of the US forces are returning to Canton where they can be properly supplied and rested.

The island of Okinawa has become a PITA. Bombing missions against our Chinese bases and on Luzon are on the increase. Not much to do about it before a substantial carrier force can be freed up. The distance is too far for our escort fighters unless the two Lightning squadrons on Ambon can be transferred north. Their pilots are quite green. The alternative is to establish a base on north-eastern Formosa. Or even better, to invade Okinawa. Build-up of Marine units and new landing craft are going well.

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RE: Saving MacArthur - Rookie AAR - 9/15/2016 2:15:30 PM   
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Sitrap March 20th 1943 - afternoon

This has been an eventful week. It has become clear now that the enemy’s persistent use of heavy naval units up the Malacca Strait has been for the purpose of reinforcing his air forces in Burma. In this he has succeeded to the extent that our advance down from Prome towards Rangoon had to be halted as it was impossible to insert ground personnel for our fighter units transferred to Prome. They are now grounded and our army units on their way to Rangoon have been withdrawn to Prome, awaiting reinforcements from north and the opportunity to have air force ground personnel flown in. The situation around Mandalay has settled down to a siege awaiting more, mainly Chinese reinforcements, arriving from north and east. The enemy is seemingly very strong. However, no more enemy air units are flying from Mandalay, sparing our air defense of Chittagong and Akyab. He is now mainly flying from Rangoon, but in large numbers. Dozens of Oscar and Nate fighters are escorting every little bomber mission.

But, the reinforcement of his Burma forces has also cost him. Singapore port is full of more or less damaged warships to the extent that he obviously has tried to send some back to Japan via the roundabout track around Australia. It has been discovered that the battleship Kirishima, in spite of claims of its earlier sinking, actually went down in the Indian ocean, north-west of Exmouth, without any action on our side, obviously due to earlier battle damage. Other sightings also indicate that he is trying that route again after we ended our blockade between Tasmania and NZ.

The British and Commonwealth navies have also had some heavy losses during these days. A task force led by the Australian cruiser Shropshire set out from Sabanga on the 15th to engage an enemy destroyer unit reported in Georgetown. Problem was there were some heavy units there, too. Shropshire, light cruiser Emerald and destroyer Paladin were sunk but damage was inflicted on the enemy ships, as well, six hits were claimed on Yamato. Battleship Hiei and heavy cruiser Tone were also reported to have participated in the debacle.

The sorry state of the Japanese fleet in and around Singapore very much facilitated the US Navy’s answer to the British cry for help. A four-carrier task force, plus two escort carriers, with heavy battleship and cruiser support, has been operating east of Singapore for some days. At the same time the six escort carriers that participated in the Tasmania-NZ blockade moved north, via Carnarvon, and took up position on the west coast of Sumatra on the height of Singapore. These carrier forces have executed some heavy bombing missions against enemy shipping in and near Singapore. Some claims from our dive-bomber and torpedo units:

At the same day as Shropshire and her partners were sunk the first attack on Singapore port went in from the CVE force operating west of Sumatra:

21 Avengers attacked with bombs and claimed several hits on enemy capital ships.

BB Fuso, Bomb hits 3
BB Yamashiro, Bomb hits 3 - on fire
BB Nagato, Bomb hits 1

Five TBF-1 Avenger were damaged - 1 destroyed by flak

A little later came the first attack from the four-carrier task force in the South China Sea, consisting of:

14 F4F-4 Wildcat, 115 SBD-3 Dauntless and 18 TBF-1 Avenger. Again, seemingly good results based on the following
claims.

BB Ise, Bomb hits 14 - heavy fires
BB Nagato, Bomb hits 9 - on fire
BB Fuso, Bomb hits 3
BB Yamashiro, Bomb hits 6 - on fire

Damage was inflicted on 19 SBD’s and four Avengers.

The attacks were repeated on the 16th, 54 SBD’s attacked in the morning. This report was filed:

CA Mikuma, Bomb hits 2 - heavy fires
CA Kumano, Bomb hits 2 - on fire
CA Atago, Bomb hits 4 - heavy fires
DD Okikaze, Bomb hits 2 - heavy fires, heavy damage

On this day an SBD scout from USS Saratoga also discovered an enemy troop convoy sneaking along the south-western (western) corner of Borneo. It was attacked in the afternoon by 15 SBD’s:

xAK Taiko Maru, Bomb hits 2 - heavy fires, heavy damage
xAKL Kennichi Maru, Bomb hits 2 - heavy fires
xAKL Nittatsu Maru, Bomb hits 2 - heavy fires, heavy damage
xAK Sydney Maru #2, Bomb hits 3, heavy fires, heavy damage

Several of these were bombed again, and confirmed sunk, the day after.

Another mission was flown by the CVE force – 12 Avengers claimed two hits on heavy cruisers Kumano and Mikuma. This was followed up by a second raid of six Avengers with more hits reported.

Then an afternoon raid by the main carrier force – 78 SBD’s, 15 Avenger and eight Devastators:

DD Harukaze, Bomb hits 1 - on fire, heavy damage
BB Yamashiro, Bomb hits 4 - on fire
BB Nagato, Bomb hits 2
BB Ise, Bomb hits 5
SC CHa-40, Bomb hits 1, and is sunk.

Damage on 17 planes but all returned to their ships.

On the 17th 74 SBD’s attacked Singapore in the morning, now without escort as no fighter resistance was experienced on the two first days:

BB Yamato, Bomb hits 7 - on fire
BB Hiei
CL Kiso, Bomb hits 1
CA Tone (reported sunk on an earlier occasion)
DD Minekaze

The CVE’s joined in later and claimed one hit on Yamato. Then the day was finished off with a raid from the main carrier force – 36 SBD’s, 15 Avengers.:

BB Yamato, Bomb hits 7 - on fire
BB Nagato, Bomb hits 4 - on fire
CA Mikuma, Bomb hits 1
DD Arare, Bomb hits 1 - on fire
BB Ise, Bomb hits 1
CL Kiso
BB Hiei, Bomb hits 1

As can be seen it’s almost like the whole enemy battleship force was present in the area. The bombing attacks continued till today- the 20th. The four carriers are now withdrawing somewhat towards north-east to refuel from three tankers that have been kept well back. The bombing raids shall continue till most of the ordnance is used up. The tanker accompanying the CVE force west of Sumatra is now starting north to join up with the others there. Those CVE’s are supposed to support a British landing near Alor Star on the western side of the Malaccan peninsula in a week’s time.

However, while all this has been going on the battlewagon guys have been pestering the force commander to let them have a go at the allegedly heavily damaged enemy “heavies” in and outside Singapore. Available for such a mission were two new and two old battleships and several heavy cruisers. This was approved last night and they went in in three separate waves. First, a destroyer squadron to scout and hopefully get in some torpedo hits, then one consisting of more destroyers and cruisers and finally the battleships with ample support of cruisers and destroyers. The main objective was to destroy the port and wharf installations but if any of the reduced enemy ships should chose to take up the fight they were welcome to it.

It started out quite well, much damage was done to the airfield, a couple of dozen planes damaged or destroyed. Then the “damaged” enemy popped up – battleships Haruna and Kongo and cruisers Chikuma, Natori and Yubari, with three destroyers. While the Japanese ships suffered some more, the US ships got the worst of it. Battleship South Dakota sank while retreating, Washington was heavily damaged and AA cruisers Juneau went down. She shouldn’t have been there in first place. Destroyer Kennison went down, too.

The carrier planes gave back a little in the afternoon, 78 SBD’s and six Devastators attacked battleships Haruna and Kongo, claiming eight hits on Haruna. Kongo was reported to be on fire. Avengers flying from the CVE task force claimed three hits on Kongo a little later.

USS Washington is now fighting to keep afloat, withdrawing to get under cover of the carriers. Strangely enough, the two old battlewagons fared best but they were happy to have the back-seat. Should they try again? Escort carrier Long Island has received some bomb damage and is sent back to the wharf in Penghu.

Hard to believe that after all the efforts the only confirmed enemy battleships sunk are Haruna and Musashi. The latter had withdrawn over to Palembang, Sumatra, but was found there by our bombers. She obviously suffered from some damage received earlier up in the Strait, too.

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RE: Saving MacArthur - Rookie AAR - 9/15/2016 8:10:19 PM   
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I presume that convoy you hit was off the SW corner of Borneo - if your CVs were near Singapore the bombers would not be able to reach SE Borneo -no?
And why do you say troop convoy when there were no xAP types and no troop losses?

Did you not have any air launched torpedoes to hit those BBs? Inflicting System damage and controllable fires will not finish any of the BBs, you need 25+ hits with bombs to get uncontrollable fires or torpedo hits to get some Float damage.

Before going back, check the fatigue on your carrier groups - after three or four days of combat they may still need another day of recovery before they will perform well in their attacks. Note the hit percentage dropping in your last couple of attacks.

Hoping you can close the deal on some of those CAs and BBs!

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RE: Saving MacArthur - Rookie AAR - 9/15/2016 9:34:26 PM   
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I presume that convoy you hit was off the SW corner of Borneo - if your CVs were near Singapore the bombers would not be able to reach SE Borneo -no?

Sorry for the confusion - South-Western it was - or, rather, western as the game map goes.

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And why do you say troop convoy when there were no xAP types and no troop losses?

Because the report said so. AK’s and AKL’s can carry troops, you know. Especially Japanese.

Here is the full report:

“Morning Air attack on TF, near Pontianak at 55,89
Weather in hex: Overcast
Raid spotted at 6 NM, estimated altitude 21,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 2 minutes

Allied aircraft
SBD-3 Dauntless x 15

No Allied losses

Japanese Ships

xAK Taiko Maru, Bomb hits 2, heavy fires, heavy damage
xAKL Kennichi Maru, Bomb hits 2, heavy fires
xAKL Nittatsu Maru, Bomb hits 2, heavy fires, heavy damage
xAK Sydney Maru #2, Bomb hits 3, heavy fires, heavy damage

Japanese ground losses:

513 casualties reported
Squads: 6 destroyed, 20 disabled
Non Combat: 4 destroyed, 25 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled
Guns lost 4 (2 destroyed, 2 disabled)

Aircraft Attacking:

7 x SBD-3 Dauntless releasing from 2000'
Naval Attack: 1 x 1000 lb SAP Bomb
8 x SBD-3 Dauntless releasing from 4000'
Naval Attack: 1 x 1000 lb SAP Bomb

Heavy smoke from fires obscuring xAK Taiko Maru
Heavy smoke from fires obscuring xAKL Kennichi Maru
Heavy smoke from fires obscuring xAK Sydney Maru #2”

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Did you not have any air launched torpedoes to hit those BBs? Inflicting System damage and controllable fires will not finish any of the BBs, you need 25+ hits with bombs to get uncontrollable fires or torpedo hits to get some Float damage

Actually, I do but I have bad experience with the use of torpedoes, even on the Avenger. The first two days some Avenger units carried torpedoes, to no avail, so I switched back to bombs. The only success with torpedoes during this raid was when some Devastators went back to the “troop” convoy the day after and sank one of those that got away the day before.

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Before going back, check the fatigue on your carrier groups - after three or four days of combat they may still need another day of recovery before they will perform well in their attacks. Note the hit percentage dropping in your last couple of attacks.

I know, they are running out of ordnance, as well. One more day now. The battlewagons are starting home tonight as they used up their heavy stuff during the bombardment and sea battle.

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Hoping you can close the deal on some of those CAs and BB’s!


Me, too. This, I believe, is the third time Haruna is claimed, and credited, as sunk. Actually, the recent occasion was finalized by a sub that was in the area, too. Even then, Avengers reported hits on Haruna again this morning. They may have mixed her up with Kongo.
I shall load them up with torpedoes this last time, see what happens. Problem is the Japanese heavies have fled Singapore now. Last strike found only some submarines and sub-chasers, which were expedited:

Allied aircraft

F4F-3 Wildcat x 12
F4F-4 Wildcat x 29
SBD-1 Dauntless x 10
SBD-3 Dauntless x 44
TBD-1 Devastator x 6
TBF-1 Avenger x 15

Allied aircraft losses

SBD-3 Dauntless: 5 damaged
SBD-3 Dauntless: 1 destroyed by flak
TBD-1 Devastator: 6 damaged

Japanese Ships

SSX Ha-29, Bomb hits 1, heavy damage
SS RO-65, Bomb hits 3, and is sunk
SC CHa-49, Bomb hits 1, and is sunk
SS I-20, Bomb hits 2, and is sunk
SC Ch 26, Bomb hits 1, heavy fires, heavy damage
SC Ch 14, Bomb hits 1, on fire

Allied aircraft

F4F-4 Wildcat x 49
TBF-1 Avenger x 14

Allied aircraft losses

TBF-1 Avenger: 10 damaged

Japanese Ships

SC CHa-37, Bomb hits 1, and is sunk
SC CHa-2, Bomb hits 1, and is sunk
SSX Ha-29, Bomb hits 1, and is sunk
SC CHa-36, Bomb hits 1, and is sunk
SC Ch 14, Bomb hits 1, heavy fires, heavy damage
SC CHa-25, Bomb hits 1, and is sunk

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RE: Saving MacArthur - Rookie AAR - 9/15/2016 10:01:30 PM   
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Here is the only result by torpedoes so far in the raid. As you see by the losses AK’s can carry troops. That said, I cannot see much deterioration in bomb hits with time. I haven’t posted all missions, takes up too much space.:

Morning Air attack on TF, near Pontianak at 55,89

Weather in hex: Heavy rain
Raid spotted at 20 NM, estimated altitude 6,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 10 minutes

Allied aircraft

SBD-3 Dauntless x 12
TBD-1 Devastator x 6

Allied aircraft losses

SBD-3 Dauntless: 1 damaged
TBD-1 Devastator: 2 damaged

Japanese Ships

xAK Misaku Maru, Torpedo hits 2, and is sunk
xAK Sinsyu Maru, Bomb hits 2, heavy fires, heavy damage
SC Ch 22, Bomb hits 1, heavy fires, heavy damage

Japanese ground losses:

1300 casualties reported
Squads: 15 destroyed, 114 disabled
Non-Combat: 17 destroyed, 41 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled

Aircraft Attacking:

6 x TBD-1 Devastator launching torpedoes at 200 feet
Naval Attack: 1 x 22in Mk 13 Torpedo
5 x SBD-3 Dauntless releasing from 4000'
Naval Attack: 1 x 1000 lb SAP Bomb
3 x SBD-3 Dauntless releasing from 3000'
Naval Attack: 1 x 1000 lb SAP Bomb
4 x SBD-3 Dauntless releasing from 2000'
Naval Attack: 1 x 1000 lb SAP Bomb

Heavy smoke from fires obscuring xAK Sinsyu Maru

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RE: Saving MacArthur - Rookie AAR - 9/16/2016 12:28:06 AM   
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Thanks for filling in the blanks. I wasn't sure what that troop convoy was about, but the troop losses you show now seem to indicate an regiment or a couple of SNLF units. A worthy target!

The concentration of all those heavy ships makes it a difficult proposition to attack - heavy AA, still lots of heavy guns in action and not much in way of speed reduction yet. Good luck with the next round!

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RE: Saving MacArthur - Rookie AAR - 9/16/2016 9:38:59 AM   
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Thanks for filling in the blanks. I wasn't sure what that troop convoy was about, but the troop losses you show now seem to indicate an regiment or a couple of SNLF units. A worthy target!

The concentration of all those heavy ships makes it a difficult proposition to attack - heavy AA, still lots of heavy guns in action and not much in way of speed reduction yet. Good luck with the next round!


Thank you! That troop transport was never targeted by me but was obviously picked up by the small percentage of
search planes I had assigned, most were directed to attack Singapore port. A proper strike mission was then
seemingly organized by the Task Force....I'd rather they'd used them on the "heavies"..... ...

I find it difficult to get the torpedo-loaded planes to attack the important targets.

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RE: Saving MacArthur - Rookie AAR - 9/19/2016 2:19:23 PM   
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Sitrap March 30th 1943 – afternoon.

The four-carrier task force has been back in Puerto Princesa for almost a week now. The two last days outside Singapore gave little in return, the birds had seemingly flown, and enemy land-based bombers were beginning to get the range on us. One of our oilers was torpedoed and sunk, fortunately we had brought along three, and escort carrier Long Island was damaged, it is now in the wharf in Penghu. USS Washington is there, too. It shall be out of service for quite some time. In all, I believe the effort was worth it if the claim of two enemy battleships sunk are correct.

“A funny thing happened” on the way back. Before the returning units had made Puerto Princesa scout planes started to report several major enemy task forces passing north in the South China Sea – heading east. It turned out there were three of them, all containing battleships or heavy cruisers, one of them was reported to be the Yamato. They were obviously trying to break through the Formosa blockade to get back home to Japan. They made a good job of it, too. There was little to stop them in the narrow passage now that most of our heavy units were on their way back to Puerto Princesa to replenish. The bomber and patrol planes based on Vigan, Aparri, Batan Island and Penghu made the best of it, and many hits were reported, but nothing serious. Only a destroyer was confirmed sunk. They were last observed by a PBY, when passing Okinawa.

Mandalay was captured some days ago and our ground forces that did the job are hurrying south towards Rangoon. There’s a life-and-death struggle going on now to keep the enemy air forces in Rangoon down. We have still not been able to insert air service personnel into the airfield in Prome so 12 Hurris and a couple of Beaufighters are grounded there. Three Hurris have been flown out singly.

Ground forces in various stages of advance on the roads north of Rangoon are being strafed constantly by the large enemy bomber force in Rangoon. The situation has started to change somewhat for the better with the fall of Mandalay. Our bombers in Akyab and Chittagong, so far occupied with assaulting the enemy forces there, have now been switched to bombing the Rangoon airfields together with Liberators and Mitchells flying from Port Blair. Their losses are extensive as until now no escort fighters have been available, Rangoon is out of range. Fighters have been transferred to Magwe, which is closest to Prome, but as soon as they have used their drop tanks, no more are available. However, they can fly CAP’s over our forces farther north and in that way help them reach Rangoon. Air recce has found that enemy forces in Rangoon have increased considerably after our southern move started.

Toungoo, midway on the railway line between Mandalay and Rangoon, has developed into a key point. If that town could be captured transfer south of our large forces in the Mandalay area can be executed much faster. Until three days ago no enemy was reported in Toungoo but now they have arrived. Even if a couple of our own units were only a few days north, an airborne operation was planned to secure this important objective. There are two para battalions in Mandalay, the 111th and 77th Chindits, both participated in the attack on the city. They are quite worn down, but the 111th Chindits were found to be in the best condition, their para gear has been flown in from Calcutta and Chittagong. Problem is transport. The C-47 and Liberator transports have been run to the bone for many weeks, only about two dozen are available at any time now, split between transporting RAF personnel for aircraft handling on the new forward airfields, and general supplies.

About a dozen was available for the para-operation this morning and the Chindits went in, company strong in this first day’s wave and immediately attacked the local garrison, to no avail. If they only stay alive till tomorrow it should work out all right, the nearest ground force is only one day away and new drops are going in till the whole battalion is there.

While this has been going on another operation has been planned, the taking of Alor Star on the west side of the Malaccan Peninsula, just north of Georgetown. This is necessary to reinforce and develop the Singora base on the east side of the Peninsula. It shall also help to close off the Malaccan Strait for enemy reinforcements to Burma. The 5th Indian Brigade, loaded amphibiously on LSI Empire Battleaxe and transport Kota Baroe, went for it this morning but as an enemy task force, destroyers Urakaze and Yunagi, obviously based in Georgetown, suddenly turned up in the approaches to Alor Star, the transports turned around while the escort, cruisers Frobisher, Newcastle and Caradoc took care of the enemy. Urakaze was sunk by gunfire, Yunagi got away. All the British ships were damaged to some extent, Caradoc seriously, she suffered a torpedo hit and six 5-inch shells. They shall try again tomorrow morning. 35 Vengeance dive-bombers flying from Langkawi did a good job of the enemy airfield.

As planned the six-ship escort carrier force started north along the west coast of Sumatra to support the British forces in the Andaman Sea and the Malaccan Strait. One three-ship division has entered Sabanga for rest and replenishment, their air contingent completely worn down, their planes were flown off to Sabang airfield. There they were put on a very light flight schedule of ASW and short-range patrols.

The other three proceeded on the north side of the Andamans with a strong battleship escort. For some strange reason these CVE’s (Bogue-class - Nassau, Altamaha, Prince William) had not performed any strike missions during the Singapore raid, even if constantly ordered to. This can be seen from the fact that all their ordnance and all planes are intact, their morale is on maximum, with no fatigue. As they positioned themselves west of Rangoon, to aid in the bombing of the airfields there, still no missions were flown, even with the maximum number of escorts.

The air contingent of the three other carriers, now temporarily flying from Sabanga airfield, have dutifully flown their missions, even if still low on morale and high on fatigue. Sorry to say they had some losses while supporting the Alor Star landing. Most likely because of this.

Go figure!

Donggala, on the western side of Celebes has been taken by the 1st Marine Para Bn, flying out of Madjene. The operation was planned with all three Marine para Bn’s in the area but the 1st did the job tout suite against very little opposition. Ship-transported support units have already arrived to build an airfield and a PT and seaplane tender, with PT’s, are on their way from Madjene. A Kingfisher squadron has also been transferred there. Carrier Yorktown supported the operation and shall hang around till all necessary units are ashore. The CB units that developed the Madjene base shall be transferred to Donggala. In conjunction with this operation Macassar-based B-25’s bombed the Bandjermasin airfields with good results.

Batan Island-based PBY’s and Devastators have sunk three small transports trying to break the Formosa blockade.

Fred

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RE: Saving MacArthur - Rookie AAR - 9/19/2016 9:09:59 PM   
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P.S.: For some reason the names of the Bogue carrier captains are not “live”.


its tough to get rid of a captain at sea. can be done buy getting the ship alone and having it sunk. but that does not always work.

best method is in a port where you can call upon troops to drag him off the ship.

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RE: Saving MacArthur - Rookie AAR - 9/19/2016 9:30:49 PM   
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ORIGINAL: rms1pa

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P.S.: For some reason the names of the Bogue carrier captains are not “live”.


its tough to get rid of a captain at sea. can be done buy getting the ship alone and having it sunk. but that does not always work.

best method is in a port where you can call upon troops to drag him off the ship.

rms/pa


Good point but I think there must be something else, maybe something in the game. After all, it concerns three
(Bogue-class) of six CVE's in the same TF - the three others were a different class. These three acted normally,
flew their a***** off according to orders while those in question did not fly ONE mission. All ordnance intact and
99 percent pilot morale with no fatigue on all three ships. They had the same orders.

After I found this out I tested them again with the same result. That said, now I see other ships which haven't had
any problems where the captain's name is also not "live" - that is, cannot be changed.

Fred




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ORIGINAL: Leandros


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ORIGINAL: rms1pa

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P.S.: For some reason the names of the Bogue carrier captains are not “live”.


its tough to get rid of a captain at sea. can be done buy getting the ship alone and having it sunk. but that does not always work.

best method is in a port where you can call upon troops to drag him off the ship.

rms/pa


Good point but I think there must be something else, maybe something in the game. After all, it concerns three
(Bogue-class) of six CVE's in the same TF - the three others were a different class. These three acted normally,
flew their a***** off according to orders while those in question did not fly ONE mission. All ordnance intact and
99 percent pilot morale with no fatigue on all three ships. They had the same orders.

After I found this out I tested them again with the same result. That said, now I see other ships which haven't had
any problems where the captain's name is also not "live" - that is, cannot be changed.

Fred


The ship's captain is not responsible for the air group's performance - squadron commanders are!

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