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RE: Triumph of the Reich Scenario - 9/17/2016 12:13:34 AM   
falco148

 

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Status: offline 		Thanks for your prompt response Icym. Yes, I was getting the blue rotating circle, then pop-ups saying numerous files were missing.
Anyway I'll have another go and let u know how I get on.

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RE: Triumph of the Reich Scenario - 9/17/2016 9:48:19 AM   
icym

 

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Status: offline 		On 9/15 Twotribes identified a problem with toe units disappearing from the map.

An updated scenario file version 1a has been uploaded to the VR Designs scenario bank. This update appears to have largely solved the problem.

If you download and play the new version, please click on the Statistics button and check the Brief>Bugs tab. Further information about what has changed is listed there.

< Message edited by icym -- 9/17/2016 9:50:06 AM >

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RE: Triumph of the Reich Scenario - 9/17/2016 12:28:13 PM   
falco148

 

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Status: offline 		Great news! Appears I got everything working. Had to do it manually but nevertheless the game is now installed and working....

It just occurred to me that I use Libre software on my computer instead of Microsoft. Would this have anything to do with it?

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RE: Triumph of the Reich Scenario - 9/17/2016 12:38:41 PM   
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quote:

ORIGINAL: icym

On 9/15 Twotribes identified a problem with toe units disappearing from the map.

An updated scenario file version 1a has been uploaded to the VR Designs scenario bank. This update appears to have largely solved the problem.

If you download and play the new version, please click on the Statistics button and check the Brief>Bugs tab. Further information about what has changed is listed there.

So the fix is manual? I can not zip it.

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RE: Triumph of the Reich Scenario - 9/17/2016 1:23:45 PM   
icym

 

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Status: offline 		Falco,

Good to know it is working now.

I am unsure what effect the software you have would cause, but since it is working, I guess that is the main thing.

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RE: Triumph of the Reich Scenario - 9/17/2016 1:57:25 PM   
icym

 

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Status: offline 		Twotribes,

This is kind of bizarre. Clearly I did something wrong with the updated version but who knows what.

It can still be made to work but I will have to change my instructions on the VR Designs scenario bank.

I tried downloading the updated scenario and it produced a file called Triumph_of_the_Reich_v1a.zip

But it is not a zip file, so far as I can tell.

So I renamed the file I downloaded to Triumph_of_the_Reich_v1a.at2

Then I put the renamed file in the atgoldscenarios folder and then it could be loaded like any normal scenario and it worked fine.

Some people may experience problems changing the file extension because their PC is set to hide extensions for known file types, so you won't see the .zip or .at2 after the file name.

Anyone who has a problem, if they are prepared to PM me their email address, I will email them the correctly named file.

If anyone can explain why a single scenario file which was uploaded as a .at2 file had its extension changed to .zip when it was downloaded, I would love to know.

Sorry for the inconvenience.

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RE: Triumph of the Reich Scenario - 9/17/2016 8:44:03 PM   
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RE: Triumph of the Reich Scenario - 9/17/2016 9:59:14 PM   
icym

 

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< Message edited by icym -- 9/18/2016 11:54:33 PM >

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RE: Triumph of the Reich Scenario - 9/18/2016 10:27:55 AM   
icym

 

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Status: offline 		A few players have experienced difficulties downloading the updated version of this scenario from VR Designs (including me when I tried it!).

The problem seems to occur if you click on the file name to download, then click on save the file that results is identified as a zip file - which it is not - it should be an at2 scenario file.

For anyone who experiences this problem, the graphic below shows how to stop this happening.

If you still have a problem, please post here.

Note the latest version is currently v1c.




Attachment (1)

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RE: Triumph of the Reich Scenario - 9/18/2016 5:49:20 PM   
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Status: offline 		The Siberian gun factory produces Russian units not Siberian.

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RE: Triumph of the Reich Scenario - 9/19/2016 12:02:08 AM   
icym

 

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Status: offline 		Bug confirmed. The programme was treating the Siberian gun factory as a 'conquered' factory and changing the people to Russian.

Has been fixed and will be correct in the next version.

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RE: Triumph of the Reich Scenario - 9/20/2016 8:08:00 AM   
icym

 

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Status: offline 		An updated scenario file version 1b has been uploaded to the VR Designs scenario bank. This update corrects the problem with the Siberian gun factory and also relocates a Canadian infantry unit that had wandered out into the ocean.

If you download and play this new version, please click on the Statistics button and check the Brief>Bugs tab. Information about known issues and what has changed is listed there.

Save the download as an .at2 file, not a .zip. Refer post in this thread dated 9/18/2016.

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RE: Triumph of the Reich Scenario - 9/20/2016 4:31:04 PM   
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Status: offline 		Got a logic problem--noticed that SS and Siberians must do their own research instead of relying on the major nation. Don't think this is realistic.

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RE: Triumph of the Reich Scenario - 9/20/2016 5:03:12 PM   
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Status: offline 		The Siberians don't have to, if I recall correctly. But the SS does, that is true...

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RE: Triumph of the Reich Scenario - 9/21/2016 12:07:17 AM   
icym

 

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Status: offline 		Ernie is right about the Siberians, they are not a separate Regime; they have a few cities and a factory in the East populated by Siberian people, so their research is done by the Russians.

Logically you are right about the SS and that is something I will consider for revision. The original idea was to give the SS the chance to procure some good armour before the Germans, adding a bit of variety to playing the SS. Still, I can't disagree that the way it is now is probably an unnecessary complication.

In practice, the current setup (illogical thought it might be) doesn't work too badly.

The SS gets Rifle/SMG research for free when Germany researches it.

The SS can't research aircraft or ships/subs, so there are not as many demands on their PPs as there is with Germany.

The SS also get half price research for all armour class units, further easing their need for PPs.

Looking back at a December 1942 game, the SS were generating 40% of the PPs that the Germans were and the SS also get slightly more scientists proportionately than the Germans. As it is now they can keep reasonable pace with Germany.

I hope your dislike of the current setup isn't enough to disqualify the scenario from consideration.


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RE: Triumph of the Reich Scenario - 9/21/2016 3:33:30 PM   
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Status: offline 		I downloaded the latest version and fought against myself....noticed that you are right about the Siberians....I had thought since they might be a separate regime but they are not like the Germans and SS. I have joined the players wanted and would like to try out the Russians. I did not notice that the SS had cheaper research costs or that Rifle/SMG is free. Don't know how to implement this but if you make SS research free for stuff the Germans have research that would be okay. So the SS would only need to research stuff that the Germans had not researched. And allow the Germans to get stuff the SS researched after some game turns. I think this could be done with a special events code.

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RE: Triumph of the Reich Scenario - 9/21/2016 10:39:47 PM   
icym

 

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Status: offline 		I hope you have fun playing Russia.

Regimes don't have enough PPs to research anything in May, but in June the research screen will show actual costs and SS armour will show the discount. Remember that some techs cost more if researched early (see players guide p. 19).

If Germany researches a new rifle tech, the SS will receive a message at the start of their turn and their factories will be able to produce the new rifle tech right away.

Your suggestion for Germany and SS sharing technologies is logical. However it does have a downside in that it would give Germany/SS an effective boost of around 40% to their research capacity, allowing them to gain a big lead on the other Regimes. Rather than attempt to rebalance the game's research at this stage, the SS will be given a bit of help by allowing them to inherit Staff tech from the Germans. This is an expensive research item and it is wrong that the Germans will likely acquire Staff II before the SS. Version 1c will be uploaded when this change has been made.


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RE: Triumph of the Reich Scenario - 9/22/2016 1:04:17 AM   
icym

 

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Status: offline 		An updated scenario file, version 1c, has been uploaded to the VR Designs scenario bank. This update lets the SS gain free Staff technology if Germany researches it first (see previous post).

If you download and play this new version, please click on the Statistics button and check the Brief>Bugs tab. Information about known issues and what has been changed is listed there.

Save the download as an .at2 file, not a .zip. Refer post in this thread dated 9/18/2016.

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RE: Triumph of the Reich Scenario - 9/26/2016 5:42:43 PM   
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Status: offline 		Copied C to my game files and now only B shows up I deleted B yet it keeps saying B when I try to load the game.

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RE: Triumph of the Reich Scenario - 9/26/2016 10:03:58 PM   
icym

 

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Status: offline 		When you say "load the game" are you loading a game that is already in progress? You won't see v1c unless you start a new game using version v1c.

If you are starting a new game and selecting Load Scenario and v1c doesn't show up in the list of available scenarios, try downloading v1c again from VR Designs:

Select save as when about to download and make sure the scenario is named: Triumph_of_the_Reich_v1c.at2

Try saving it to the desktop. Then start ATG, select Load Scenario and load the scenario from the desktop. That will confirm the scenario is the correct one. If that works OK, move the file into the Triumph of the Reich folder in the atgoldscenarios folder and you should be good to go.

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RE: Triumph of the Reich Scenario - 9/26/2016 10:49:53 PM   
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Status: offline 		Had rwo folders and the one I saved it to was not the correct one. Version B failed on me said error when I ran first real turn.

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RE: Triumph of the Reich Scenario - 9/26/2016 11:11:45 PM   
icym

 

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Status: offline 		It is always a little difficult to diagnose problems from afar.

Do you have version c working now?

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RE: Triumph of the Reich Scenario - 9/26/2016 11:56:50 PM   
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Status: offline 		It generally does not fail until after the completed first real turn June. On the original I tried changing the cost of a few things and the production of cities and resources and it failed when I ran the turkey turn in June same happened here, works fine through the suedo turn but fails at end of first real turn.

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RE: Triumph of the Reich Scenario - 9/27/2016 12:34:14 AM   
icym

 

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Status: offline 		I will try playing through May-July and see if I can replicate your error.

Will take a little while, I'll get back to you as soon as I have tried it out.

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RE: Triumph of the Reich Scenario - 9/27/2016 1:54:16 AM   
icym

 

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Status: offline 		I have run through playing version 1c, taking minimum actions to speed things up.

Set regimes to produce something, moved a few units, made an attack where possible, German DOW on Russia, production from a factory or city or two. Set up a TOE template and tested it. Generally I was just doing enough to test the game for any inherent bugs.

I reached the start of the British August turn without anything bad happening.

Is the error you experiencing giving an unhandled exception message?

Does it only happen with the version you have made a couple of changes to?


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RE: Triumph of the Reich Scenario - 9/27/2016 2:28:51 AM   
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Status: offline 		I deleted the changed game. It gave an unhandled exception error on version B havent gotten that far with c.

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RE: Triumph of the Reich Scenario - 9/27/2016 9:46:11 AM   
icym

 

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Status: offline 		Good to hear you were able to run version 1c.

While players are free to make whatever changes they want to the scenario, there can be unintended effects. Quite a lot of game values are changed by events (US lowered production at start, reduced production for Spain and Turkey, increased Russian infantry production early war, higher research costs for first adopters of some new technologies, lowered SS armour research, etc., etc.).

It is possible that changing game values could have conflicted with these events and yielded an error. However there is no certainty that is what you experienced. Please advise if you encounter any errors in your unmodified game.

I did intend to release another revision. Rather than muddy the waters with yet another version, I will hold off until it is determined that v1c is stable.

I will away from the computer for about 2 weeks from Thursday. I hope your games run smoothly while I away.

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RE: Triumph of the Reich Scenario - 10/6/2016 12:22:22 PM   
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Status: offline 		The deleting of empty units is back as soon as the US can assign production to the Soviet factory.

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RE: Triumph of the Reich Scenario - 10/6/2016 12:45:38 PM   
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Status: offline 		Hi Twotribes,

Icym asked me to look over things while he was away. He is still away for four more days, and I am unsure how to solve this problem. In any case, if I don't remember, send a PM to Icym, or remind him in four days time :)

Yours
Ernieschwitz/Claus

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RE: Triumph of the Reich Scenario - 10/6/2016 7:47:25 PM   
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Status: offline 		Seems to be working again I lost a bunch on one turn but the next turn it worked.

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