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Naval Support strength not showing up - 10/7/2016 12:46:09 AM

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I've updated to the Sept 17 beta. Since then I have noticed that when I scroll over a base, sometimes where I know I have naval support nothing shows up and at other times more shows up than I can find by going through the LCUs at the base. Is anyone else seeing this?

On those same bases that nothing shows up on the scroll over, if I open the base screen, nothing shows on the summary in the center column either, but I know there are units there.

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RE: Naval Support strength not showing up - 10/7/2016 4:36:28 AM

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I've updated to the Sept 17 beta. Since then I have noticed that when I scroll over a base, sometimes where I know I have naval support nothing shows up and at other times more shows up than I can find by going through the LCUs at the base. Is anyone else seeing this?

On those same bases that nothing shows up on the scroll over, if I open the base screen, nothing shows on the summary in the center column either, but I know there are units there.

Is there a naval HQ in range? It doesn't have to be on the base to provide support.

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RE: Naval Support strength not showing up - 10/7/2016 5:37:08 AM

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If the units with Naval Support are not in Combat mode, there will be no Naval Support available.

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RE: Naval Support strength not showing up - 10/7/2016 6:01:11 AM

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Yes, lock them in the Combat mode for the rest of the war. Actually, there should be a button for this.

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RE: Naval Support strength not showing up - 10/8/2016 1:53:46 AM

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Yes, lock them in the Combat mode for the rest of the war. Actually, there should be a button for this.

No there should not be. They won't change out of Combat mode by themselves. If you want them in Combat mode forever, just put them in it and don't ever change that.

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RE: Naval Support strength not showing up - 10/9/2016 12:40:54 AM

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and at other times more shows up than I can find by going through the LCUs

Yup, WAD. Adjacent bases will add some NS to those around it. Don't recall the criteria, other than to have NS units in combat mode.

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RE: Naval Support strength not showing up - 10/9/2016 3:50:54 AM

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and at other times more shows up than I can find by going through the LCUs

Yup, WAD. Adjacent bases will add some NS to those around it. Don't recall the criteria, other than to have NS units in combat mode.

http://www.matrixgames.com/forums/tm.asp?m=2260137 (14.2.3.5, Naval Support Assist)

Naval Support can help surrounding hexes

Naval Support = Naval Support / ( range + 1 )
1 hex 1/2 NS
2 hex 1/3 NS
3 hex 1/4 NS
etc.

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RE: Naval Support strength not showing up - 10/9/2016 5:18:13 PM

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Thanks for the help, I'll take a look the next time I am able to get into the game. Other duties call at the moment.

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RE: Naval Support strength not showing up - 10/12/2016 1:08:07 AM

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I am able to confirm, the LCU is in combat mode and is not showing up on the base summary. The port is a level 3 port, no damage.

I have not checked out about adding nearby base naval support to the base summary, but will soon.

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RE: Naval Support strength not showing up - 10/18/2016 10:27:38 PM

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I have the same issue, but only with ports that start at (0) and are increased to 1,2,3. None of the naval support based at these bases nor any of the nearby command HQ's with supporting naval support appear on the main base screen. I use Michael's July beta. I think these bases are still utilizing this support...(?).

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RE: Naval Support strength not showing up - 10/18/2016 11:54:58 PM

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A number of pictures would help.

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RE: Naval Support strength not showing up - 10/21/2016 8:20:23 AM

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I have the same issue, but only with ports that start at (0) and are increased to 1,2,3. None of the naval support based at these bases nor any of the nearby command HQ's with supporting naval support appear on the main base screen. I use Michael's July beta. I think these bases are still utilizing this support...(?).

Can you update to the 17th September beta?

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RE: Naval Support strength not showing up - 10/22/2016 2:17:51 PM

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Here are a series of screenshots. I no longer have Naval Support units at any of these bases, moving them to other ports, but I do have a Command HQ near the problem ports which will serve this demonstration. Notice that bases (Tassafaranga) that have ports starting at level (0) and increased to 1,2, or 3 will not show any naval support on the main Base Screen even though a nearby SoPac HQ is 1 hex away. Even when I had the 220 USN base unit there months ago it didn't show up. It does show up however at another base (1000 Is.) that has a port 2 (1).

I believe that Naval Support is there and helping w/loading/unloading, but I don't no for certain since I do not look under the hood at the various reports.

Note, I will be upgrading to the newest Beta soon, so maybe this will solve it.

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RE: Naval Support strength not showing up - 10/22/2016 2:22:47 PM

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Lunga, SoPac HQ which should lend naval support to nearby ports:

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RE: Naval Support strength not showing up - 10/22/2016 2:23:46 PM

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Here is Tassafaranga, no NS showing.

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RE: Naval Support strength not showing up - 10/22/2016 2:24:59 PM

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here is Thousand Is. where nearby SoPac HQ naval support can be seen:

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RE: Naval Support strength not showing up - 10/22/2016 2:28:09 PM

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I've noticed this problem at other ports with the starting (0) level, including Terapo and Rennell Is.

Anyway, I'll upgrade to the Sept Beta and see if that solves this issue, thanks for allowing me to post.

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RE: Naval Support strength not showing up - 10/23/2016 2:52:29 AM

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I have checked all my (0) starting bases and the same issue comes up at each one. Those that have naval support units do not show up on the base summary screen. All bases that start out at (1) or better, the naval support shows on the screen summary. I have been on the Sept. 17th version for three weeks.

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RE: Naval Support strength not showing up - 10/23/2016 9:01:52 AM

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Naval support cannot assist a port until there is a port. 0 + 90% is still not a functioning port.

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RE: Naval Support strength not showing up - 10/23/2016 10:11:40 AM

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This is from my DBB-C scen 28 game from March, 2016. US Naval Command HQ was placed in Pago-Pago. NS visible in ports level 0. The troop load rate is for Niuafo'ou(the printscreen doesn't show the mouse cursor)

The game must have used this patch then

3/04/2016: [1125.10]
Fix for ports with no potential to show 0 naval support/ shore parties

This fix was for inland bases with no port capability which showed NS available when in range of Naval HQ.

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RE: Naval Support strength not showing up - 10/23/2016 5:12:25 PM

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This fix was for inland bases with no port capability which showed NS available when in range of Naval HQ.

So for level 0 ports it does not SHOW naval support but as per Tracker the NS is really there??

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RE: Naval Support strength not showing up - 10/23/2016 5:34:10 PM

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Okay, to be clear, the issue is I have built up the port size at a number of (0) ports. I have moved naval support to the port to beef up capacity. I do not believe the port recognizes that there are naval support units there as the base summary screen shows no support at the base. I cannot unload some items on ships with a load cost of 360 when I should be able to at a (3) port with sufficient naval support.

Does this make sense?

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RE: Naval Support strength not showing up - 10/23/2016 7:05:59 PM

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I do not know what you are doing, but they show up for me.
Port started at 0(0) and built to 3(0). 27 NS show up on the display.

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RE: Naval Support strength not showing up - 10/24/2016 11:42:10 AM

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I updated to 1126b, but it has not resolved this issue, Naval Support still not showing up in main Base Screen:

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RE: Naval Support strength not showing up - 10/24/2016 11:43:56 AM

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... even though I have 199 Naval Support at base in combat mode, with an additional Command HQ several hexes away:

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RE: Naval Support strength not showing up - 10/24/2016 11:46:15 AM

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Bill, looking at your screenshot I noticed the "+24 Shore Party". I've never seen this before, how do you get this?

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RE: Naval Support strength not showing up - 10/24/2016 2:45:48 PM

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Bill, looking at your screenshot I noticed the "+24 Shore Party". I've never seen this before, how do you get this?

it's a flag in editor for some devices. It's used in DaBabes and mods based on them, its function is to help with loading/unloading only.

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RE: Naval Support strength not showing up - 10/24/2016 3:41:02 PM

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Bill, looking at your screenshot I noticed the "+24 Shore Party". I've never seen this before, how do you get this?

it's a flag in editor for some devices. It's used in DaBabes and mods based on them, its function is to help with loading/unloading only.

I luv it, need to get some of that.

Is there any chance my problem can be coming from Andy's recent Ironman beta? Not sure how many others are playing it...

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RE: Naval Support strength not showing up - 10/24/2016 3:53:10 PM

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ORIGINAL: mussey

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ORIGINAL: mussey

Bill, looking at your screenshot I noticed the "+24 Shore Party". I've never seen this before, how do you get this?

it's a flag in editor for some devices. It's used in DaBabes and mods based on them, its function is to help with loading/unloading only.

I luv it, need to get some of that.

Is there any chance my problem can be coming from Andy's recent Ironman beta? Not sure how many others are playing it...

To clarify: Naval Support includes that ability. Shore Party is only that ability (helps with loading/unloading but not the rest of Naval Support abilities).

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RE: Naval Support strength not showing up - 10/24/2016 3:58:54 PM

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And Naval Support is reduced a bunch in those scenarios.

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