Slitherine

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ORIGINAL: witpqs

China east.

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ORIGINAL: Drakanel

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ORIGINAL: witpqs

China east.

So, you don't need a bigger picture now, right? XD

Planning to leave Shangai alone or not? You certainly are moving troops towards other directions, so I have to ask.

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ORIGINAL: Roger Neilson 3

Shanghai

Why do you need to take it anytime soon? The forces there cannot do anything and will gradually wither. It needs a large garrison, so why not just turn it into a POW camp and as your spare Chinese get there and prep every day the enemy position gets weaker.

Roger

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ORIGINAL: BBfanboy

Regardless of any supply generated at Shanghai, the IJA troops there will recover disablements much more slowly if there are Allied troops in the hex. So just putting the Chinese troops in there and bombarding can really help grind the IJA.

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ORIGINAL: Roger Neilson 3

I used to detest China, indeed I pretty much ignored it in my most long running game for the first year - then I realised how similar it is to the Oriental game of Go and grew to love it! Its all about sente and killing the eyes.

Roger

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ORIGINAL: Roger Neilson 3

Sorry, Go is about capturing intersections on a board and any group of stones (your units) will hold territory if they have two viable spaces (eyes) that cannot be filled as each player places one stone per move. So if a group is isolated they can be safely left to be 'dead' at the end of the game. If a group is viable then they can always pose a threat by other lines of stones developing towards them. That's a very very simplified version.

So in China once you take Sente (initiative) and hold it you can happily isolate the enemy forces and by use of the hex sides you can make them rooted to a hex and thus unable to have any effect on the situation - so they are dead in the same way as a group of stones which only have one eye is dead and merely awaiting execution. In my oldest China game there are loads of Japanese forces that are simply sat in hexes and unable to do anything - and I am simply leaving them to rot on their own. I do not need to expend any energy as they cannot do anything.

Shanghai can be very important, but can also be irrelevant depending on the state of play around there. In Witpqs game I suggest that it is a dead stone and can be safely left unless there is a need to take it for its points/shipyard/logistics.

Go eyes

Roger

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ORIGINAL: witpqs

And because it is there. But you assumed that!

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Ground combat at 74,39 (near Chengtu)

Allied Deliberate attack

Attacking force 13206 troops, 0 guns, 0 vehicles, Assault Value = 225

Defending force 9168 troops, 47 guns, 0 vehicles, Assault Value = 172

Allied adjusted assault: 222

Japanese adjusted defense: 16

Allied assault odds: 13 to 1

Combat modifiers
Defender: terrain(+), leaders(-), disruption(-), experience(-)
supply(-)
Attacker: leaders(+)

Japanese ground losses:
220 casualties reported
Squads: 2 destroyed, 27 disabled
Non Combat: 0 destroyed, 1 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled

Allied ground losses:
39 casualties reported
Squads: 0 destroyed, 3 disabled
Non Combat: 0 destroyed, 1 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled

Assaulting units:
75th Chinese Corps

Defending units:
57th Infantry Brigade
69th Infantry Brigade


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Ground combat at 89,40 (near Taiyuan)

Allied Deliberate attack

Attacking force 714 troops, 0 guns, 90 vehicles, Assault Value = 56

Defending force 375 troops, 2 guns, 45 vehicles, Assault Value = 16

Allied adjusted assault: 28

Japanese adjusted defense: 13

Allied assault odds: 2 to 1

Combat modifiers
Defender: terrain(+), leaders(+), leaders(-), experience(-)
Attacker: leaders(+), leaders(-)

Japanese ground losses:
15 casualties reported
Squads: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled
Non Combat: 7 destroyed, 0 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled
Vehicles lost 10 (9 destroyed, 1 disabled)
Units retreated 1

Defeated Japanese Units Retreating!

Assaulting units:
3rd Carabiniers Regiment

Defending units:
3rd Recon Battalion


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ORIGINAL: jwolf

Do you get supply flow from the USSR before they activate? Specifically, from USSR to China? Doesn't sound right...