Zaslon
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The issue is that the first L-39 wired for carrying R-3S was L-39ZA and that in 1987 and first trial firing was in 1988 so we simply cannot take everything written for granted even if it is manual. One has to take also in account that L-39C was training aircraft with ability to simulate use of different weapons which is in game represented by training load. L-39C unlike later L-39ZO and L-39ZA was never ment to be used as combat aircraft. It still can make sense to add at least rocket pods UB-16-57* because we can see them on photos but I have never seen live 100 kg bomb on L-39C apart of only inert training variant.
*To represent possibility of desperate use as actually its predecessor L-29 was used in combat and even to shot down an aircraft.
So in my opinion just adding UB-16-57 rocket pod as only combat load would be enough. Unless someone can actually find photo of L-39C with live 100 kg bombs.
Historians use an easy criteria in research. As far I can remember they talk about primary, secondary, tertiary...sources which is related with the degree of confidence. Primary sources has more confidence...It's direct information. In my research for CMANO DBs I used this criteria.
A picture is a primary source, so his confidence is vey High. A flight Manual is another primary source. As secondary source we can use offical communications (GAO, official magazines, MoD website, manufacturer brochures and videos...). For tertiary sources external websites, books and magazines with direct sources (Jane's, FlightGlobal, F16.net...). In tertiary sources can be degrees of confidence too...For example Jane's and some books have more confidence than some webs, magazines...when there are any discrepancy between sources of the same tranche.
For example...When I made the research for Mirage IIIEE I had a lot of problems because there are not a lot of good primary sources (and I am still dealing with it in the Mirage F1 research and Spanish AB.212 modernization). There are only a few pictures of spanish Mirage III with weapons. Almost 90% of the pictures, the aircraft load only fuel tanks. A flight manual is very complicated to obtain (for this reason I suppose that Mike ask for pictures, is the easiest primary source to find)...So I was in a dead end. Until I remember that I can perused official Spanish Air force Magazine. Et voilà! I found some articles in RAA (Magazine of Aeronautics and Astronautics, spanish air force official magazine) where they talk about it. Direct testimonies of pilots, flight mechanichs who operate the Mirage IIIEE.
In the official magazine, they talk about loadouts...I could not find any picture. That's means that if I cannot find a picture it doesn't exist? Nopes. The existence of a picture with a specific loadout is circumstancial. The info comes from a secondary source...So it's reliable. It's better have a photo? of course. But and official publication has enough confidence. If I found an exotic loadout in a tertiary source, surely I will be more skeptical.
Then, In my opinion, according to the criteria exposed, if we can post Flight manuals, i's not necessary support the info with pictures because they have the same degree of confidence...and of course, we delete the circumstantial factor of pictures.
Can be interesting if Sunburn, Mike or another Warfaresims's developer can tell us what criteria is used in CMANO for help us to improve our request.
P.S. if the FM said that L-39C can load a pair of FAB-100...We can load it. If you never saw a picture with this loadout doesn't means that it doesn't carry it. If a Devil african dictator can use his L-39C for bombing rebels in a turmoil and the Aircraft can do it, he will use it, for example.
< Message edited by Zaslon -- 11/11/2016 10:52:30 AM >
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