Hagar
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Chaos - thanks for the early reply. So you suggest burning units necessary to punch holes to get some supply to retreating units?
Any other thoughts?
If you do, they're toast, and the resupplied units are not be able to move for yet another turn, so it would just prolong the inevitable, methinks. Overall, you did 'just as bad as you can expect'. I'd get as many of the cut-off units in Kurland out via naval evac as you can, and for the rest it's a rout to more defensive positions: either the Velikaya line or Luga line in the North, the Dnepr line in the center, and Dnjestr line (or other river lines up to the Dnjepr and/or old Stalin fortifications) you feel confident of using to slow down the follow-on attacks. At this stage unfortified soviet units have little hope of stopping determined attacks, though they might slow them a little, especially when using defense in depth. Defensive terrain (rivers, swamps) are usually the key terrains to form defensive lines. Only fortified positions behind rivers have a real hope of holding out for prolonged series of time at this stage. As German supply lines grow longer and the Panzers are less of a threat things will improve, but right now your main objectives are to slow them down and prevent encirclement.
AGN is very short of infantry, if he can force the diversion of one infantry corps north instead of east , it is already a succes .
Why would it divert infantry north from AGC to AGN? Despite the lack of infantry in AGN there's no chance to hold against the forces that are already there. Granted, Soviet units lost in 1941 will rebuild, but only after 11 turns (divisions). So get out what you can, and be aggressive with what's left to slow down the advance (i.e. try to reclaim captured territory, especially in key positions like the Köningsberg-Riga rail connection - if you can slow down the rail construction progress that's a big bonus, even if only a little). That will be a challenge as your forces in the Šiauliai area are already swept under the carpet though... But his failure to capture Ventspils gives you an opening to extract some of your forces there. I'd suggest holding on to Riga as being a port it's in supply and will require a heavy attack to dislodge (and won't force a surrender, but rather a rout). Besides, Riga is the obvious target for his rail advance up north. The longer you can hold on to it, the better. It probably won't last long, but will require some effort to clear (i.e. by mobile units, or it will give you some form of delay if he tries to do it with regular infantry).
At this stage the Germans aren't lacking in infantry IMHO, the infantry there is has trouble catching up with the Panzers. A couple of turns later the infantry comes back into play of course. Any trailing infantry can by-and-large catch up once the captured territory is firmly in German control (and thus advance more quickly).
Oh, and lest I forget, the Polotsk-Orsha line is the obvious line between the Velikaya and Dnjepr lines, and should indeed be the first target for a new defense line for the Northwestern Army. It is unlikely to hold for more than a few turns, but it will slow the Germans down. Should it fall the next line of defense is around Velikye Luki. I know some argue to forget about the Velikaya line and aim straight for the Luga line, but I usually try to make a stand at the Velikaya line, however futile, as it will slow down the Panzers.
< Message edited by Hagar -- 11/10/2016 9:01:04 AM >
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