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Partisan Rant - 11/26/2016 12:10:58 AM   
thedude357


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Status: offline 		So there I was, I just did a HQ buildup on a panzer army the turn before which was all on axis rail. My infantry blew a 40 mile wide hole with no enemy in front of them. My offensive is about to begin. I then select my panzer unit and its...WTF 30% fuel?!!!!!!!!! I check my rail hex all broken, and sure enough a lone partisan unit just decided to appear....first and only one of the war so far, 300 miles back at the most critical juncture on the entire map rendering 300 miles of track useless...rendering my HQ buildup useless...wasting untold thousands of trucks...rendering my panzers useless...halting my offensive before it even started. Next turn all mud. The Wehrmacht has been derailed by some lawrence of arabia wannabes. WTFF #$@#%#%$#%#

A security divison came down and shot everyone in sight. Villages burned. They say the order came straight from the top.
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RE: Partisan Rant - 11/26/2016 1:21:51 AM   
rainman2015

 

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Status: offline 		I too had this same problem a few turns back. Stopped my entire AGC for almost 2 weeks basically. One stinkin partisan, and i still can't figure out how exactly to best prevent it. At the moment, i have 2 division broken down and defending every other hex along the most critical rail net in Sept 41. Even that though i think could be attacked without me being able to stop it, and the biggest problem is how to fix it, other than stopping your FBD in its tracks and sending it all the way back to fix it.

Here is my thread on this...

http://www.matrixgames.com/forums/tm.asp?m=4123307

Randy
:)

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RE: Partisan Rant - 11/26/2016 2:41:49 AM   
charlie0311

 

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Told ya, and told ya, and ...told ya some more, and told ya, and ..... and **** and ....

Fix is easy, but, have to do it first (before it happens or can reroll the logistics phase if PBEM with saves).

I'll put the fix up tomorrow IF somebody asks real nice, meanwhile back to the asylum, and you guys thought they had me locked away for good. Giggle, snark, giggle, giggle.

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RE: Partisan Rant - 11/26/2016 7:05:12 AM   
morvael


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Status: offline 		Did you garrison cities?

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RE: Partisan Rant - 11/26/2016 8:34:38 AM   
Denniss

 

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Status: offline 		If you really have to rely on a single rail connection you may want to place some forts at important rail junctions.

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RE: Partisan Rant - 11/26/2016 8:56:19 AM   
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Status: offline 		I guess no security troops for us to use

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RE: Partisan Rant - 11/27/2016 5:25:46 PM   
thedude357


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Status: offline 		so what was charlie's fix? Asking real nice? Please? haha

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RE: Partisan Rant - 11/27/2016 8:15:59 PM   
charlie0311

 

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Status: offline 		Hi Dude,

Got two.

1) Make it impossible by not allowing the Sov player to begin partisan air supply. IE, no level bombers in VVS or BAK abs on night missions. The partisans will appear on the map as "cadres" but won't attack anything. It takes about 6 turns of air supply to get the partisans to start blowing things up. So if you start them up about t 10 they can have an effect, t 16 or so, in late summer, but not so huge.

You can still use level bombers for emergency supply of isolated units, night missions in non VVS/BAK abs.

Slow typist, so post this, then comes no 2. Don't want to get timed out

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RE: Partisan Rant - 11/27/2016 8:34:25 PM   
charlie0311

 

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Status: offline 		ok, number two.

If playing v ai, disable auto save. Make your own saves when you want to take a break, and, the good part, make a save before you end turn F12. Logistics phase runs after end turn, if partisans do something or anything you don't like, just reload the save you made before end turn, and do over. Only takes a few seconds.

Same with pvp game, except the Axis player makes the saves, etc. Have to use PBEM. Axis player does the reload, sends the turn again.

Charlie loves everybody, hehehehe...

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RE: Partisan Rant - 11/28/2016 6:06:32 AM   
821Bobo


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quote:

ORIGINAL: Denniss

If you really have to rely on a single rail connection you may want to place some forts at important rail junctions.


This won't help. Some patches ago there was change allowing partisans to attack hex with Axis unit.

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RE: Partisan Rant - 11/28/2016 7:05:48 AM   
morvael


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Status: offline 		But those units reduce the chance of an attack, so it's still a boon.

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RE: Partisan Rant - 11/28/2016 7:18:35 AM   
821Bobo


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RE: Partisan Rant - 11/28/2016 7:19:29 PM   
Cavalry Corp

 

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Status: offline 		Where should night fighters be based in the game to best intercept the supply to partisans?

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RE: Partisan Rant - 11/28/2016 7:48:18 PM   
Stelteck

 

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quote:

ORIGINAL: cavalry

Where should night fighters be based in the game to best intercept the supply to partisans?


I'am not sûre it was technicaly possible to intercept ressuply operation without prior intelligence of who/when/where the drop/ressuply will occured.

Soviet union is really big to patrol by night. It was already quite hard to intercept massive raid to germany by night.
Night interception was very difficult at the time.



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