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RE: How the Axis could have won II. Allied AAR - 12/28/2016 5:25:09 AM   
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But before we get into all that there was plenty going on elsewhere. Not least at sea where no less than three U-Boats have been identified on the UK-USSR convoy route - and they have gone after the carriers. One of the Wolf Packs appears to have moved away. Light damage has been reported to HMS Furious, while in Berlin the propaganda ministry has a different take on what happened....


Sorry Adolf, but the Ark is still afloat



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RE: How the Axis could have won II. Allied AAR - 12/28/2016 5:36:27 AM   
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Here is a summary of the AI turn - the big news being the loss of IV Corps and Odessa




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RE: How the Axis could have won II. Allied AAR - 12/28/2016 5:43:07 AM   
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Riga and the fortress of Daugvapils still hold out - just about. Less good news is that von Leeb now has two corps over the Dvina....

Gradually the Germans are moving forward, but gradually is the key here. In terms of historical performance the Germans are well behind schedule.




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RE: How the Axis could have won II. Allied AAR - 12/28/2016 5:45:37 AM   
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In the centre its almost as if Moscow is no longer a priority for Hitler as AGC retreat from Minsk once again. A little further south, two panzer formations have kicked the 15th Rifle Corps out of Cherrigov, but without support they are unlikely to get much further.




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RE: How the Axis could have won II. Allied AAR - 12/28/2016 5:50:03 AM   
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The picture in the south is a little rosier for the Axis now that Odessa has fallen. The lower Dneipr is now under threat - but once again the German infantry appears to have been heavily depleted in getting this far.


General Winter makes a welcome appearance



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RE: How the Axis could have won II. Allied AAR - 12/28/2016 5:59:25 AM   
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To sunnier climes now and the Axis again put in a concerted attack on El-Alamein - XII Corps were lucky to hold on. The RAF also took a bit of a battering too. I can only assume the Germans have increased their tech in the air...




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RE: How the Axis could have won II. Allied AAR - 12/28/2016 6:01:40 AM   
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Reinforcements

Soviet Union
Paratroop Corps in Moscow
Army in Kharkov
Corps in Ostrov
2 x Garrison in Belgorod and Mariopol

United States
USS Ranger arrives in Norfolk - that's VA not East Anglia.

MPP Expenditure

UK - Once again the army and air force in Egypt needs every MPP
USA - The USA spend a large part of their MPP on transportation and also purchase a medium bomber.
USSR - Tactical Bomber, an army, a corps and a garrison




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RE: How the Axis could have won II. Allied AAR - 12/28/2016 6:07:15 AM   
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United Kingdom

The British turn off the Lend Lease supply to the Soviet Union and increase income from the US to the max 30%. The reason is that I need to get additional research for the British.

Meanwhile the U-Boat war continues to hot up. The 1st Escort Flotilla finds a Wolf Pack off the Scottish west coast and almost annihilates it.

On the Soviet route the destroyers exchange blows with two Wolf Packs - but the carriers aircraft prove a waste of time.

United States

A great armada, loaded with 2 armies and a corps, sets out for the Red Sea.


As can be seen I have taken the MPP down to 0 in the Map Screen (left) but the red line is still showing in the main map (right). Let's see what happens later



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RE: How the Axis could have won II. Allied AAR - 12/28/2016 6:20:42 AM   
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The Soviets bring in every available fighter to try and assist the defenders of Riga. 11th Army is also ordered to act as a blocking force to upset German plans to get more men across the river.




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RE: How the Axis could have won II. Allied AAR - 12/28/2016 6:40:56 AM   
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To sunnier climes now and the Axis again put in a concerted attack on El-Alamein - XII Corps were lucky to hold on. The RAF also took a bit of a battering too. I can only assume the Germans have increased their tech in the air...





Try and use overwhelming air power to pick the Axis units off, one by one.
So many good units there are doing nothing atm. Try and put the strongest units in front, not corps.
Try and go around them and cut off supply.
Perhaps even try to do a landing behind their lines if you are bold enough. ;)

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RE: How the Axis could have won II. Allied AAR - 12/28/2016 6:50:29 AM   
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To sunnier climes now and the Axis again put in a concerted attack on El-Alamein - XII Corps were lucky to hold on. The RAF also took a bit of a battering too. I can only assume the Germans have increased their tech in the air...





Try and use overwhelming air power to pick the Axis units off, one by one.
So many good units there are doing nothing atm. Try and put the strongest units in front, not corps.
Try and go around them and cut off supply.
Perhaps even try to do a landing behind their lines if you are bold enough. ;)
warspite1

I have been putting the armies at the front. However I am having to rotate units as the Afrika Korps got to level 2 while many of mine are at 1. I am getting there....I think .


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RE: How the Axis could have won II. Allied AAR - 12/28/2016 8:15:54 AM   
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The War at Sea continues with the U-Boat menace at large in the Western Approaches, off the coast of Scotland and the Norwegian Sea.

Admiral Donitz calls more Wolf Packs to the scene in the Norwegian Sea - and these launch attacks with varying success. I need to get the carriers out of there.

In the Western Approaches at least one pack is on the loose and hurting convoy traffic, while off Scotland a U-Boat is trying to limp home.

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RE: How the Axis could have won II. Allied AAR - 12/28/2016 12:21:30 PM   
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The Afrika Korps - specifically Rommels panzers and artillery, reduce the infantry of the British IV Corps, but the Italians, attacking El-Alamein, have no joy and are repulsed with losses.




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RE: How the Axis could have won II. Allied AAR - 12/28/2016 12:57:49 PM   
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The Northwestern Front not only continue to hold the Germans at the Dvina, but even more encouraging is that one of the two corps that crossed the river near Riga has had to withdraw; the bridgehead on the northbank is now held by the much depleted XXI Corps. Further south near Daugvapils, all three infantry units are reduced in strength and the panzers that attacked the fortress have, at least temporarily, withdrawn.




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RE: How the Axis could have won II. Allied AAR - 12/28/2016 1:16:56 PM   
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I said earlier that the panzers were not going to get very far without support - and so it has proved. The attack in Minsk remains ineffectual...




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RE: How the Axis could have won II. Allied AAR - 12/28/2016 1:23:52 PM   
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RE: How the Axis could have won II. Allied AAR - 12/28/2016 1:24:57 PM   
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In the south its is much the same story, with the infantry on the west bank of the lower Dneipr expending much their strength without actually achieving their goal. The situation to the north remains the only concern - although I have some reinforcement there and hopefully the Romanians and Hungarians will prefer to fight each other




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RE: How the Axis could have won II. Allied AAR - 12/28/2016 1:26:04 PM   
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Is the USSR to weak in attack to reduce that panzer next to Gomel?
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Probably - I will let you know. I am thinking of putting it out of supply and not attacking but that may be too risky.


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RE: How the Axis could have won II. Allied AAR - 12/28/2016 1:27:39 PM   
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Is the USSR to weak in attack to reduce that panzer next to Gomel?
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Probably - I will let you know. I am thinking of putting it out of supply and not attacking but that may be too risky.


How about both?

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RE: How the Axis could have won II. Allied AAR - 12/28/2016 1:29:11 PM   
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Status: offline 		Now that US is in the war, can you put any pressure on getting some minors to join the Allies? Turkey? Sweden? Finland?

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RE: How the Axis could have won II. Allied AAR - 12/28/2016 1:30:09 PM   
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Here is a brief summary. Pleasingly there are no combat losses this turn:




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RE: How the Axis could have won II. Allied AAR - 12/28/2016 1:32:25 PM   
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RE: How the Axis could have won II. Allied AAR - 12/28/2016 1:32:33 PM   
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Now that US is in the war, can you put any pressure on getting some minors to join the Allies? Turkey? Sweden? Finland?
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I may do, but first I'd like to get a few US units to Europe and put some pressure on.


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RE: How the Axis could have won II. Allied AAR - 12/28/2016 1:33:49 PM   
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I think the RN can handle that old thing





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RE: How the Axis could have won II. Allied AAR - 12/28/2016 1:35:14 PM   
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That was quick!


"Er lads...I think we were supposed to fit the gun INSIDE the emplacement....."



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RE: How the Axis could have won II. Allied AAR - 12/28/2016 1:35:24 PM   
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I think the RN can handle that old thing



No doubt. No doubt at all. So that begs to wonder why it is commissioned at all.

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RE: How the Axis could have won II. Allied AAR - 12/28/2016 1:38:43 PM   
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And so we move into the New Year. There are some decisions to be made - and the answer is YES to both:




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RE: How the Axis could have won II. Allied AAR - 12/28/2016 1:39:23 PM   
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And the second one




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RE: How the Axis could have won II. Allied AAR - 12/28/2016 1:40:16 PM   
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Reinforcements

Soviet Union

2 x Corps (Daugvapils, Kherson)
1 x Rokossovsky HQ (Simfernapol)
1 x Garrison (Parnu)
1 x Artillery (Kherson)
1 x Mechanised (Simfernapol)
1 x Army (Dnierpetrovsk)

MPP Expenditure

UK - The British spend MPP on getting the Canadian tanks to Egypt. They spend the rest on reinforcing unit in Egypt.
USA - Nothing - they want a quality HQ
USSR - The Soviets start the research of Advanced Aircraft. Plus the purchase of Rocket Artillery and a Mechanised unit




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RE: How the Axis could have won II. Allied AAR - 12/28/2016 1:49:13 PM   
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The Allies produce a stamp of its world leaders when they were children to mark the declaration of "Complete Victory".


From left to right: "Shorty" Stalin, "Specky four-eyes" Churchill and er Roosevelt...er when he was Burmese....



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