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Assigning individual air units to a mission - 1/7/2017 11:43:18 PM   
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Status: offline 		Is this possible? So far I can see that you can set air directives to cover a certain region, but the AI missions for Axis seem to set AD's that have no aircraft assigned to them. For instance in the 1943-45 campaign the AI has set an AD over Normandy, but the majority of the aircraft are a lot further north.

Additionally there seems to be a lot of airspace that is unprotected? It seems limiting to only have one AD (per mission type) for each HQ. It seems that fighters are scrambling, but I wonder on what orders? Is it sufficient to just have fighters in the areas that you require protection and the AD's are an extra?

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RE: Assigning individual air units to a mission - 1/8/2017 8:43:55 AM   
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It seems that fighters are scrambling, but I wonder on what orders?


I suppose this is the reason:

game manual section 17: "In addition to air superiority, the computer can scramble fighter air group units to intercept enemy air missions throughout the turn. Eligible anti-aircraft units will also fire on enemy air missions."

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Is it sufficient to just have fighters in the areas that you require protection and the AD's are an extra?


I'm wondering the same thing

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RE: Assigning individual air units to a mission - 1/8/2017 9:42:30 AM   
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Status: offline 		Defensive intercept Air Ops are automatic.

Naval patrol can be automatic, off or targeted with ADs.

Other ADs are essentially active/player controlled (perhaps with Auto AD creation assistance). The one that can confuse is air superiority. It is an offensive mission to gain air superiority.

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RE: Assigning individual air units to a mission - 1/8/2017 10:35:30 AM   
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Defensive intercept Air Ops are automatic.

Naval patrol can be automatic, off or targeted with ADs.

Other ADs are essentially active/player controlled (perhaps with Auto AD creation assistance). The one that can confuse is air superiority. It is an offensive mission to gain air superiority.



Thanks for explanation, I did totally misunderstood, as axis I was going to use air superiority ADs to defend axis territory

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RE: Assigning individual air units to a mission - 1/8/2017 11:10:03 AM   
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Status: offline 		You can use air superiority defensively. You'll notice that you can choose whether the AD fly in your or your opponents or both air phases. Selecting only your opponent's is great for setting an air ambush.

Another key trick is to select the AD to fly at the altitude that corresponds to the max speed altitude of your aircraft. Your aircraft will perform better.

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RE: Assigning individual air units to a mission - 1/8/2017 11:23:01 AM   
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Another key trick is to select the AD to fly at the altitude that corresponds to the max speed altitude of your aircraft. Your aircraft will perform better.



is max speed altitude even better than one higher than enemy? I tought that the best possible thing to do was always to fly higher than enemy (GG's war in the pacific taught me to fly WW2 fighters high towards moon...)

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RE: Assigning individual air units to a mission - 1/8/2017 12:14:58 PM   
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Status: offline 		So basically the Defensive options are to:

- Set Air Superiority ADs in Enemy phase to ambush

- Move around squadrons to airbases along a route where you anticipate raids (say, the corridor from Woensdrecht to Krefeld) and the Defenses will trigger automatically when a bomber fleet flies over?

For example, if I have 300 planes distributed over Woensdrecht, Tilurg, Eindhoven, Krefeld, a bomber fleet will have a tough time on their way to the Ruhr area? Of course if these planes are drawn away from airfields up North it would leave Hamburg etc. more vulnerable. Is that how it works?

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RE: Assigning individual air units to a mission - 1/8/2017 12:49:02 PM   
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Status: offline 		Yes, that is broadly how it works. The trigger mechanism has a number of factors that are coded like radar, raid size and weather. The defending air groups don't need to be directly on the route to trigger but range is a factor.

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RE: Assigning individual air units to a mission - 1/8/2017 1:13:59 PM   
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Is there any way to see which of my fighter groups have scrambled? For example to see if they should or should not be on that particular airfield?
When bombers hit the Dutch coast it might be fighters from Eindhoven that scramble, but also Paderborn which is much farther away.

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RE: Assigning individual air units to a mission - 1/8/2017 1:54:59 PM   
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You can use air superiority defensively. You'll notice that you can choose whether the AD fly in your or your opponents or both air phases. Selecting only your opponent's is great for setting an air ambush.

Another key trick is to select the AD to fly at the altitude that corresponds to the max speed altitude of your aircraft. Your aircraft will perform better.



Where do I find what the fighters best max speed altitude is or do you mean best setting them to their max altitude?

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RE: Assigning individual air units to a mission - 1/8/2017 2:13:46 PM   
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Status: offline 		It's in the data but this is a handy spreadsheet rjs28023 put together.

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RE: Assigning individual air units to a mission - 1/8/2017 2:19:17 PM   
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Ok thx.

Is there any way to see which of my fighter groups have scrambled? For example to see if they should or should not be on that particular airfield?
When bombers hit the Dutch coast it might be fighters from Eindhoven that scramble, but also Paderborn which is much farther away.



In F11 when you look at a battle's detail for Air Combat you can see the Group that participated. That allows you to cross check on location.


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RE: Assigning individual air units to a mission - 1/8/2017 2:21:33 PM   
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ORIGINAL: Red Lancer

It's in the data but this is a handy spreadsheet rjs28023 put together.



Top stuff, cheers!

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RE: Assigning individual air units to a mission - 1/8/2017 4:14:32 PM   
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Status: offline 		You're the man, John.

I am close to having this Air War figured out :)
(After my Intro succes I noticed muuuch more difficulty in the other Air scenarios... So much more fighters around to deal with)

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