Kynth
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Sea Hercules C.6 (SC-130J-30) - Country: United Kingdom Could we add a new hypothetical unit to the database please? It is for the UK-specific proposal for an SC-130J Sea Hercules which, although not the favourite to win, was a serious option prior to the UK selecting the P-8A Poseidon. This hypothetical aircraft is particularly interesting because it is not simply an Orion-in-a-Hercules solution as per the generic version being pitched globally. Instead, using an expanded version of the palletised, Ro-Ro, Merlin Cerberus system, it would have been capable of both ASW and the Crowsnest's ASaC role - a unique platform trading the high altitude ASW (HAASW) capability of the P-8A with its long-range HAAWC torpedos for something a little more "British" in lower altitude surveillance, ELINT and hunting. A backdrop to the proposal included the UK's decision to life-extend their C.6 fleet in the SDSR 2015 review. This decision part-reversed the planned fleet retirement and further fuelled speculation that there was a way in for an expanded "Ro-Ro" Hercules fleet, incorporating the Sea Herc. The SC-130J proposal from LM was based on modifying 10 existing RAF stretched C-130J-30's before 2020, so the C.6 (#4374) may be the closest aircraft to base this on. In addition to the aircraft crews, training and support infrastructure already existed entirely in the UK leading to a rapid stand-up time predicted for a squadron. The common aircraft modifications proposed included: - Lengthened sponsons holding a pair of weapons bays and extended fuel tanks. Models shown at conferences suggest a 4-6 Torpedo capacity, up to 3 per bay. In RAF service these would most likely be Stingray [sic] Mod 1's (#1596). - An MX-20HD turret on the chin (Closest match in the database is the AN/ASX-4 Sensor Group #3017) - A Radome on the belly for 360 degree unrestricted view housing an AESA, though the Searchwater 2000 (#5539) used on the Crowsnest is a good match and a plausible selection The existing outer wing pylons with dual strongbacks would be retained. Possible stores on the pylons include - 4 x Harpoon - Explicitly mentioned by LM as part of the pitch, likely AGM-84L Harpoon II (#816) given the timelines) - 6 x Brimstone 2 (#3035) - Speculative: 8 x Hellfire 2 was frequently discussed by commentators as already demonstrated on the similar KC-130J, however the UK is integrating the 2 x 3 rail launched indigenous weapon on several platforms. - 2 x Storm Shadow (#957) - Speculative: Purely based on 4 pictured on the Nimrod MRA.4, reprinted in the press at the time of Sea Hercules proposal, and speculation at the time. Unsure if the strongbacks can support a dual load per pylon. - 4 x JSM (#2885) - Speculative: Based on this weeks announcement that Kongsberg will integrate JSM onto the P-8A ahead of the Norwegian purchase, with significant UK interest due to sharing P-8A and F-35A/B platforms. Lighter missile can be supported in pairs by the strongback pylons. The mission systems and stores proposed were all expanded, palletised, Roll-on, Roll-off equipment from the Merlin HM.2 and Crowsnest program (ASW and ASaC/AEW functions). - ESM explicitly mentioned by LM. Merlin uses Orange Reaper #2900. - An optional MAD was pitched. - For sonobuoys, a rotary door ejector was listed and the Hercules carrying capacity mentioned as an advantage over the P-8A. It is more likely that full A-sized sonobuoys would have been used than the smaller versions carried by helicopters (#2549, #2541 and #2505 are from the MRA.4 record, although UK company ULTRA also manufactures the P-8A sonobuoys for the USN #1939, #2482 and #2496) - Comms/Datalinks are as per C.6, but the pallets introduce Link-16, Ku Satcom, INMARSAT and WBDL. Given the above, Loadouts would likely have been: - Cargo and Passengers as per baseline C.6 as the Palletised Ro-Ro system was explicitly advertised as not changing these capabilities. - SAR - Maritime Surveillance - 6 x Stingray, Sonobouys (ASW) - 6 x Stingray, 4 x Harpoon II, Sonobouys (Sea Control) - 6 x Stingray, 4 x JSM, Sonobouys (Sea Control) - 6 x Stingray, 6 x Brimstone, Sonobouys (Littoral Sea Control) - 2 x Storm Shadow (Stand Off Land Strike) - 4 x JSM (Long Range ASuW Strike, land attack capability) - Pallet change times for the advanced roles were variously stated, 30 minute pallet load + 15 minute power-checks given for the pallets for example. Though I imagine weapon loads could take longer on top of that? "Merlin Cerberus" SC-130J materials for further reading: http://www.navyrecognition.com/index.php/news/naval-exhibitions/dsei-2015-naval-show-daily-news/3113-lockheed-sees-its-sc-130j-sea-herc-as-the-affordable-solution-to-answer-uk-future-mpa-needs.html https://www.flightglobal.com/news/articles/dsei-lockheed-martin-pitches-sc-130j-conversion-to-416741/ A video covering the basics: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kjFijMCgh24 "Generic" SC-130J materials for an aircraft based on P-3C systems for further reading: http://www.lockheedmartin.com/content/dam/lockheed/data/aero/photos/c-130/Variants/M12-1166510A002%20SC-130J%20Sea%20Herc%20Bro%20Media.pdf http://www.lockheedmartin.com/content/dam/lockheed/data/aero/documents/global-sustainment/product-support/2012HOC-Presentations/Wednesday/Wed%201530%20Sea%20Herc-LM-Mike%20Bell.pdf EDIT: MAD was later announced as an option.
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