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RE: The Good The Bad & The Indifferent - 2/9/2017 4:12:25 AM   
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Operation Peep Show is the "next big thing" following Fun House. The objectives were selected at the same time, back in the early autumn of '43. The timeline calls for Peep Show in early autumn, though timing is dependent on Fun House progress or lack thereof.




Hurrah! Something else that the peanut gallery can start to speculate about!


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RE: The Good The Bad & The Indifferent - 2/9/2017 5:34:46 PM   
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RE: The Good The Bad & The Indifferent - 2/9/2017 7:03:43 PM   
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Fun House: CV Sumatra took two torpedoes today. She's in bad shape and in a bad location to try to make it to a friendly port. John has a sizeable pack of subs in the area. Sumatra, and the rest of Death Star, are caught between those subs and Mindanao.

I'm dispatching additional ASW TFs from Legaspi to rendezvous with DS, but the next few days will be dicey.

Allied ASW did damage I-200 (the sub that hit Sumatra) and another sub; and ASW aircraft reported hits on two or three other subs. Here's hoping Allied ASW tears into this pack tomorrow.

No sign of KB today. If John has used flank speed - possible but unlikely - his carrier would be in range for battle tomorrow. But I don't think that's in the cards. I think KB is somewhere north or northeast of Truk, around the Marianas or possible towards Marcus.

Carousel: The conquest and loss of Celebes was the last act in the DEI, but the Allies are about to resume the offensive. Loading of troops at one of the Ceram bases has commenced, with D-Day two days away. I'll continue using the "Carousel" name - it was originally the op to expand on Big Tent, and that's still the case today.

Burma: Important attacks tomorrow. If the Allies succeed with either or both, John's MLR will really collapse back towards open terrain. He can't stand there due to Allied 2EB hitting his troops. So if the attacks succeed - especially the one near Toungoo - John's days are numbered in Burma. Over at Prome, the big question is whether the attack can catch 18th Div. in the hex and mess it up. There are five forts there, but 4EB really messed up his ground troops today.








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RE: The Good The Bad & The Indifferent - 2/9/2017 9:07:18 PM   
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Status: offline 		What about sending Sumatra to Talaud-eilanden to pump out, enough CAP there to cover?

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RE: The Good The Bad & The Indifferent - 2/9/2017 9:38:06 PM   
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Status: offline 		She'd be naked there, easily attacked by enemy aircraft. Talaud is a level one airfield.

I've considered a number of options, including sending Death Star south to escort Sumatra back to a safer port. That has some merit.

But, overall, I think the best option is to proceed north. Sumatra TF will follow an ASW TF and try to rejoin Death Star. I put her chances at 20% - not good, but at least measurable.

Mentally, I've already written off Sumatra, and I'm more concerned about Death Star's welfare. She's amongst the pack of wolves. On the plus side, the subs are showing detection, so that makes it harder for them to attack and easier to attack them. But John may trigger kamikazes and whatever else he can put his hands on. There's blood in the water and the sharks will go into a frenzy.

By tomorrow afternoon, I think I'll have eight more ASW TFs present with Death Star, so the early phase will be the scary one.

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RE: The Good The Bad & The Indifferent - 2/9/2017 9:46:33 PM   
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Status: offline 		A day or two ago, I was looking at the screen, working on a turn. I had the thought: "Man, this is beautiful!" The screen, I mean. But more than that: The game; AE.

Many nights, I fall asleep thinking about what just happened in a turn or what I think might happen the next turn.

At this point in the game, with the Allies being so powerful, you'd think that the game would have lost some of its luster. It hasn't. I spent seven months game time planning Fun House. To finally get to implement that plan with all its complexity, risk, and reward is as much fun as anything I've experienced before in AE.

Seeing a cherished CV hit is a gut punch, and I felt it. Then I went for a long run up Lavender Mountain in the cold, with the setting sun shining strongly, and realized anew how much I enjoy the game, good times and bad.

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RE: The Good The Bad & The Indifferent - 2/9/2017 10:02:33 PM   
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RE: The Good The Bad & The Indifferent - 2/9/2017 10:09:55 PM   
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RE: The Good The Bad & The Indifferent - 2/9/2017 10:38:56 PM   
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RE: The Good The Bad & The Indifferent - 2/9/2017 10:48:48 PM   
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Status: offline 		I began at the old mill, heading out the reservoir road, turned right and took a steep firebreak trail up to the top of an unnamed knob, down to a gap (the gap is above the reservoir, but you can't see it), and then back around on the ridge road. Only about 2.5 miles, but it's a loop I refer to as the "Hyper Mountain Goat."

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RE: The Good The Bad & The Indifferent - 2/9/2017 11:11:15 PM   
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Status: offline 		I am sure that it is good for leg strength. When I was running cross country in high school, one of the schools in our league was Blue Ridge School (VA), whose campus was located 4 miles from the AT. Their race course went up a steep slope to an old ski tow rope tower, down that slope and then back up it before descending once more and recrossing a small creek we had splashed through before the climb. I liked the uphill part but my knees did not like the downhill portion.

In the summer of 1980 I rode over from Athens to visit a friend Jimmy Sturwold, whose family lived at the top of Mt Alto Rd. (For you forumites, that is a bicycle ride from Athens to Rome in one day! - okay, this is Athens and Rome, Georgia which are only 125 miles apart so it isn't as impressive as those of you who live in Europe thought). The next day we hiked up to the reservoir for some swimming, which is the only time I've been up on the mountain behind Berry College.

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RE: The Good The Bad & The Indifferent - 2/9/2017 11:32:02 PM   
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Status: offline 		125 miles in a day is stiff. 125 miles in rolling terrain with plenty of short, steep climbs is incredibly tough.

But imagine doing it today, with 2017 North Metro traffic compared to 1980 countryside travel!

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RE: The Good The Bad & The Indifferent - 2/9/2017 11:52:58 PM   
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125 miles in a day is stiff. 125 miles in rolling terrain with plenty of short, steep climbs is incredibly tough.

But imagine doing it today, with 2017 North Metro traffic compared to 1980 countryside travel!


Road riding is a lot more dangerous now than it was when I was younger, this is true. This is why I am a big advocate of the rails to trails initiatives (like the Silver Comet Trail from Smyrna to Anniston, Alabama). Trails like that give cyclists a safe place to get their exercise while not contributing to road congestion. I use a local one to get well out into the rural part of my county where the other roads are less busy.

You forgot to mention having that 125 mile ride finish at the top of Mt Alto! And this all happened on the July 4 weekend... 102+ degrees Fahrenheit!

For the return I decided to go north of Lake Lanier, turning the ride into a 152 mile ride. Not a great decision... but the roads were lower traffic.

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RE: The Good The Bad & The Indifferent - 2/10/2017 12:11:08 AM   
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Status: offline 		I mountain bike here. I have a variety of tough routes with names like The Chainsaw, The Blow Torth, Weed Whacker, Gap to Gap, etc. Those are my names - kinda like naming AE operations. Most of those are tough, rocky climbs. In July and August, that's stout going (as you well know).

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RE: The Good The Bad & The Indifferent - 2/10/2017 12:59:40 AM   
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Status: offline 		Mountain biking was one of the reasons I moved out here, but as I get older I am less enamored with it. The body just doesn't heal as quickly any more... So I stick to road riding, hiking and the occasional cross country skiing, with an emphasis on road riding as it is a great way to stay in shape for the others without having to go too far away by car.

I started mountain biking at the UGA Botanical Gardens before they banned the activity there. After that I would go up to the Lake Russell Recreation (and Game Management) Area for weekend rides. Forumites would be interested to learn that Currahee Mountain is located there.

Shortly after that I got the chance to move west, and Olympia was my choice. Capital State Forest just outside of town has 150 miles of single track trails to ride, ranging from 300' elevation to 3600' (it takes about eight miles to gain that elevation). There is a local group, Friends of Capital Forest, who are mountain bikers who put in a lot of trail maintenance there which is becoming even more important as these trails have been getting heavy use the past ten years. Again, less so by me because of a lessening desire to beat myself up.

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RE: The Good The Bad & The Indifferent - 2/10/2017 1:09:13 AM   
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RE: The Good The Bad & The Indifferent - 2/10/2017 3:27:48 AM   
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Status: offline 		I've done a lot of hiking in the West, but not enough. I suppose even if I am able to travel and hike for the next 20 or 30 years, as I hope, I won't have enough time. The West is spectacular.

Hiking in the East may be just as spectacular, though in a different way. Same with hiking in the South, with one big difference: I do it here year around.




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RE: The Good The Bad & The Indifferent - 2/10/2017 4:17:34 AM   
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I've done a lot of hiking in the West, but not enough. I suppose even if I am able to travel and hike for the next 20 or 30 years, as I hope, I won't have enough time. The West is spectacular.

Hiking in the East may be just as spectacular, though in a different way. Same with hiking in the South, with one big difference: I do it here year around.



If you're hardcore, you can do it year-round up here, too.

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RE: The Good The Bad & The Indifferent - 2/10/2017 1:11:12 PM   
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If you're hardcore, you can do it year-round up here, too.


True, my boy and I are always getting into trouble in them thar hills...






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RE: The Good The Bad & The Indifferent - 2/10/2017 4:52:24 PM   
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Status: offline 		That is what cross country skiing or snowshoeing is all about, though the river valleys of the Olympics and the coast are rarely snowbound. You just need good raingear there.

Back when I lived in Georgia, my roommate, his twin brother and I had a tradition of doing a three to four day hiking trip every New Year's. I recall it being pretty crowded up at Shining Rock Wilderness one year, but a couple of years later Mt Roger's Recreation Area was empty of other hikers (as was the Roan Mountain section of the AT the year in between). The Roan Mountain/Greasy Knob hike has the distinction of being one conducted when the nighttime temps were dropping into negative numbers (Fahrenheit) - so, yes, you can get extreme conditions in the southeastern Appalachians.

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RE: The Good The Bad & The Indifferent - 2/10/2017 9:38:30 PM   
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Status: offline 		Brad, that's Roan Mountain four posts up. My son, Jackson, is standing on the rock on Jane Bald or Round Bald, looking back at Roan, which we had climbed earlier that day. The photo was taken in early August 2015.

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RE: The Good The Bad & The Indifferent - 2/11/2017 7:35:37 AM   
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RE: The Good The Bad & The Indifferent - 2/11/2017 4:12:42 PM   
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Status: offline 		Weird anomaly today at Vaitupu, where Allied invasion of atoll doesn't trigger a shock attack. I think this must be a code error, because I can't think of any other reason the shock attack wasn't triggered.

A small Allied unit landed at nearby Funafuti, triggering a successful shock attack. But the Marine CD unit that landed at Vaitupu (in good shape!) didn't. The enemy unit doesn't seem to have any combat power, but I don't think that prevents the shock attack.

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RE: The Good The Bad & The Indifferent - 2/11/2017 4:40:13 PM   
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RE: The Good The Bad & The Indifferent - 2/11/2017 5:47:49 PM   
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Status: offline 		Today was a busy day across the map. I'll post in detail later. But here's another numbers thing that caught my eyes.

Yesterday, 2.5 years into the game, the Allies finally - at long last! - took the lead in points for ships sunk. A landmark event!

It lasted one day. Today an IJ sub picked off CVE Chenango. John's retaken the lead, drat him!




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RE: The Good The Bad & The Indifferent - 2/11/2017 6:21:59 PM   
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Status: offline 		He is using his subs rather aggressively - but given his circumstances, it's the right play on his part.

I will say, his lack of reaction to losing, for all intents, the bulk of the Philippines is somewhat out of character. Though his side operations in the Celebes & Burma speak volumes to his need to "do something." Even if in doing something, he's losing the strategic equation.

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RE: The Good The Bad & The Indifferent - 2/11/2017 7:13:23 PM   
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RE: The Good The Bad & The Indifferent - 2/11/2017 7:25:08 PM   
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Status: offline 		With your position on the SE peninsula of Luzon, I would have massive number of subs on both sides of Formosa. He has to get that oil from DEA/SRA to Japan. He may unload at Hong Kong, but I would be serious about sinking his precious TKs.

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RE: The Good The Bad & The Indifferent - 2/11/2017 7:30:23 PM   
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Status: offline 		If you put a massive number of subs on both sides of Formosa, you'd lose a massive number of subs. By 1944, Japanese air ASW is lethal to subs. In just about every game I've followed, the Allied player has had to morph his sub strategy in '43 as a result. That's what happened to me. John's air ASW is tough, so I've pulled my subs back or placed them in holes in John's patrol coverage.

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RE: The Good The Bad & The Indifferent - 2/11/2017 7:54:57 PM   
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Weird anomaly today at Vaitupu, where Allied invasion of atoll doesn't trigger a shock attack. I think this must be a code error, because I can't think of any other reason the shock attack wasn't triggered.

A small Allied unit landed at nearby Funafuti, triggering a successful shock attack. But the Marine CD unit that landed at Vaitupu (in good shape!) didn't. The enemy unit doesn't seem to have any combat power, but I don't think that prevents the shock attack.

More later.





I've had this happen, but only when the defenders are already extremely worn down or have no AV.

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