Slitherine

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ORIGINAL: spec111

Mike, what about this?

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ORIGINAL: spec111

Hello! There is HUGE MAJOR error of S-300P-series organization in Command!

Lets look at S-300PS. Whole AD system is called BRIGADE! (It is given to Front\Military Region Command in peace time.)

Brigade has HQ Vehicle 5N83S, 36D6 Tin Shield B Radar and 4 (for PS and PMU, and up to 6 for PMU-1) AD BNs (which is called "Antiaircraft Missile Complex".)

Every BN has:
HQ Vehicle 5N63S, 5N63S Flap Lid B and 5N66 Clam Shell B radars.
And up to four "Launch Complexes" (which is batteries). Every battery consists one "master" (with firecontrol box) 5P85S TEL and two "slave" (without firecontrol box) 5P85D TELs. So every "master" TEL can support only two "slave" TELs.

So at maximum in battalion we have 3x4=12 TELs.

12! Not four as we have on chinese SA-20a "Bn" (which is supplied with full pack of BNs radars). And not four as we have with SA-20b "Bn" (i.e. errorish battery which is supplied with _BRIGADE_ level Cheese Board long-range radar!).

In fact there is same problem with russian S-300V. With 9 TELs+LLVs it is not BN, it is only regular battery!

Thx.

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ORIGINAL: spec111

Hello! There is HUGE MAJOR error of S-300P-series organization in Command!

Lets look at S-300PS. Whole AD system is called BRIGADE! (It is given to Front\Military Region Command in peace time.)

Brigade has HQ Vehicle 5N83S, 36D6 Tin Shield B Radar and 4 (for PS and PMU, and up to 6 for PMU-1) AD BNs (which is called "Antiaircraft Missile Complex".)

Every BN has:
HQ Vehicle 5N63S, 5N63S Flap Lid B and 5N66 Clam Shell B radars.
And up to four "Launch Complexes" (which is batteries). Every battery consists one "master" (with firecontrol box) 5P85S TEL and two "slave" (without firecontrol box) 5P85D TELs. So every "master" TEL can support only two "slave" TELs.

So at maximum in battalion we have 3x4=12 TELs.

12! Not four as we have on chinese SA-20a "Bn" (which is supplied with full pack of BNs radars). And not four as we have with SA-20b "Bn" (i.e. errorish battery which is supplied with _BRIGADE_ level Cheese Board long-range radar!).

In fact there is same problem with russian S-300V. With 9 TELs+LLVs it is not BN, it is only regular battery!

Thx.

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ORIGINAL: Kitchens Sink

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ORIGINAL: Kitchens Sink

This missile looks to be ship/sub capable according to the Launch Altitude Info, but I can't find a mount to use it with, or method to load a Weapons Record to an existing mount for Chinese Ships.

I realize the actual missile may not quite yet be in full service, but I am developing a scenario set in the future and thought I would be able to up-gun a large Chinese warships to carry some of them since the missile does exist in the database.

I am currently using the P-800 Onyx as a stand-in for up-gunning because it's characteristics are similar.

Am I missing something on how to add this missile?

Thanks!

I thought I would bump this to see if the Dev's could give me some help. The missile in question is DB ID #2862 YJ-12 SSM

Thanks!

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The Indirect Fire Protection Capability Increment 2 – Intercept (IFPC Increment 2-I) Block 1 System is a mobile, ground-based weapon system designed to defeat unmanned aircraft systems (UAS) and cruise missiles.

The Block 1 system will use an existing interceptor and sensor and will develop a Multi-Mission Launcher (MML) on an existing vehicle platform to support the Counter-UAS (C-UAS) and Cruise Missile Defense (CMD) missions. The system will use the Army Integrated Air and Missile Defense (AIAMD) open systems architecture, and will use the AIAMD Integrated Battle Command System as its mission command component.

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AN/MPQ-64F1 Improved Sentinel
Specifications
Range Extension Improvement ■ Improved target detection at extended
ranges - especially cruise missiles
(CM) and Unmanned Aerial Vehicles
(UAV)
■ Improved target detection for Rotary
Wing (RW) and Fixed Wing (FW)
aircraft
■ Improved capability to cue targets
beyond visual range
Signal Data Processor ■ 10 slot VME-64x Rack with slots
available for growth
■ Multiple On-board computers

Receiver ■ X-Band, single channel
■ Single LRU
Exciter ■ X-Band, DDS Technology
■ Single Master Oscillator
upconverted to generate frequency
■ Single LRU
Transmitter ■ X-Band, Multiple TWT
■ Low/Mid/High PRFs

Motor Controller ■ Digital Interface to the Signal Data
Processor
■ Improved DC Motor and Controller
New Operating Modes ■ Full Coverage Mode - Surveillance
from Horizon (terrain) to ~18
degrees, providing balanced height
coverage
■ Low Altitude Coverage Mode -
Surveillance from Horizon to ~5
degrees, providing focused energy
and fast revisit times for low altitude
advanced target threats (cruise
missiles, UAVs)

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The radar will detect, identify, classify and track aircraft (i.e., Fixed Wing, Rotary
Wing, etc.) from the nap of the earth to 55º in elevation and 360º azimuth within an airspace search
range of more than 75km.

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The Improved Sentinel (AN/MPQ-64F1) is a 3D phased array tactical air defense radar developed by ThalesRaytheon Systems. It automatically detects, tracks, identifies, classifies and reports airborne threats. It detects helicopters, high-speed attack aircraft and cruise missiles over 360°. IFPC Inc. 2-I will fund the software upgrades to support the current Sentinel’s counter UAS and CM mission.

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One of the most visible features of the IFPC Inc 2-I system is its Multi-Mission Launcher, MML. The launcher, mounted on a medium tactical truck similar in size to a delivery truck, carries 15 modular missile launch tubes on a turret system allowing the missiles to be launched in almost any direction.

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Following the planned demonstration the Army expects to unfold EAPS into the IFPC Inc. 2-I program, meeting the systems’ Block-2 phase fielding credible C-RAM, in addition to Block I Counter Cruise Missile and UAV capability, to be fielded in two active duty and seven National Guard battalions beginning in 2019.

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The main advantage of MHTK, besides its low cost, is the larger Load out it offers for each MML. With four MHTK missiles integrated into each tube, the system can hold 15 tubes – or 60 interceptors – a critical capability in combating saturation attacks, with multiple simultaneous engagements, characteristic of RAM threats. It also allows stacking few larger missiles with dozens of miniature interceptors.

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ORIGINAL: WARMONGER1944

Could you please add:

-Murmansk-BN
-Borisoglebsk-2
-Rtut-BM

You can find info and links about all of them here: http://www.russiadefence.net/t2461p240-russian-electronic-warfare-systems

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"...ability to attack a wide range of surface targets ranging from small high speed surface craft up to large surface vessels such as corvettes, as well as coastal and land targets."

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ORIGINAL: Supreme 2.0

Spike NLOS for South Korean AW.159 Wildcat

https://www.flightglobal.com/news/articles/dsei-aw159-south-korea-delivery-due-this-year-416840/
https://www.flickr.com/photos/kforcemedia/albums/72157668685988394
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NB3EOD8Mrmw (0:30 onwards)

Damn, I just saw that KLAB already requested this end of last year... You might still want to take a look at the video. At around 0:33 you get a glimpse on a specification board that lists the onboard sensors, weapons, countermeasures and the Link-16 datalink.

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Updated DB version of Chinese Z-9C

Could you add a new version that comes with a light ASuW loadout? Following the first PLAN anti-piracy deployments in 2008 and 2009, a clouple of naval Z-9s were modified to allow the aircraft to carry one 19x57mm rocket pod plus a PC-1AY 12,7mm Gun Pod. Other visible changes include the relocation of the FLIR turret. Since then, it seems like a larger batch of Z-9Cs has been converted to this standard.

I tried to pinpoint an In-service date for this version, without success. The best I could come up with is that the earliest appearance of this version dates back to 3. March 2010 with the deployment of the 5th Chinese Naval Escort Flotilla to the Gulf of Aden. All previous Escort Flotillas, excluding the 4th, are known to have deployed with the Ka-27 or later the common Z-9 version.

http://chinese-military-aviation.blogspot.de/p/helicopters-i.html
http://www.ausairpower.net/APA-PLAN-CV.html#mozTocId444734
http://www.jeffhead.com/redseadragon/piracy.htm
http://www.junjian.wang/data/0003/54/14523141484718.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/KVZ7X81.jpg
http://2.bp.blogspot.com/-3ICOPEoXAeI/UDhKVHjZw3I/AAAAAAAABlQ/cA999MMWXYQ/s1600/Z-9C8.jpg
http://globaldefence.net/wp-content/uploads/2009/12/WZ-9-Waffeneinsatz.jpg
http://files.activeboard.com/858070?AWSAccessKeyId=1XXJBWHKN0QBQS6TGPG2&Expires=1487808000&Signature=QVstLEX8fbMnqP1ro1VN3mGZbnU%3D

Hope this is worth an add. Thanks in advance!

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ORIGINAL: Hongjian

From the newest patch, there are some questions on the China related additions:

- I didnt find the HQ-19 ABM anywere. Or is the SC-19 suppossed to be the only ABM/ASAT system added?

- Also, the JD-16 Sino-Growler doesnt have a SEAD loadout, but only unarmed stand-off jamming? Sure, we havent seen any equipment on the JD-16 IRL either, but it would be logical for a dedicated ECM fighter to carry some ARMs like YJ-91s.

- Furthermore, the newer J-10C seems to feature an obsolete DECM system (Average Generic DECM) compared to its older J-10B brethren (Advance Generic DECM or even newer KG-600 DECM pod).

- ALso, I would like to again request that the Y-8Q gets a better surface search radar, since it is kinda illogical that the premiere ASW/MPA of the PLAN gets only a 25 nmi ranged surface search radar from the 70s. It's large radome under its chin would be capable to house at least a similiar radar as the much older Y-8X non-ASW capable MPA.
Chinese Military Aviation even suggests that the radar might be even a development of the British Skymaster/Searchwater 2000 radar equipped on China's older Y-8J surveillance planes.
http://chinese-military-aviation.blogspot.com/p/surveillance-aircraft-i.html

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ORIGINAL: Hongjian

I understand. But why delay the inevitable? Building a Wild-Weasel and giving it no approapriate anti-radar weapons makes as much sense as to make a Maritime Patrol Plane and giving it no long range surface search radar.
It is not that I request adding deathray cannons or quantum radars or anything (although there are indeed signs that are pointing to that direction).

In a few month time, I or someone else would surely come over to this thread and post pictoral evidence confirming those no-brainer speculations.

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ORIGINAL: Kitchens Sink

Does the aircraft also have another OECM capability that's not listed, like active radar jamming etc?

Thanks!

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ORIGINAL: TheCabal

After playing the "Tanker Wars 2017" scenario with a grouped ship of Littoral combat ships (LCS): They were supposed to have NSM Missiles but they actually don't. Because of that, the scenario can't be finished without these weapons.

The database gives no clue regarding those NSM Missiles. Maybe it needs adjustment?

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ORIGINAL: Dysta

For Hongjian's ABM suggestion, I recently find the CASIC video about Project 8102 terminal ABM system was officially nominated the First-runnerup of National Award at 2013.

http://military.china.com/jszmt/02/11173748/20170210/30244299.html (Simplified Chinese)
https://youtu.be/XAWNNApAJ5I (Simplified Chinese, Mandarin)

The report is of course opaque, and only thing I heard from the video is some sort of rocket engine or course-changing system being developed. The only focus is the award. Sadly there's no image of what exactly the missile looks like, even it's just a terminal-stage model.

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ORIGINAL: mikmyk

Who's HenriK?

Thanks!

Mike