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Adivice On This Game - 3/10/2017 1:25:12 PM   
kip1214

 

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Status: offline 		Was looking to buy this game. I seen it was on special on steam. I have played war games all my life. I just bought TOH, and I love it. How hard is this game to learn, and can you complete a campaign in a reasonable time. I had War in the pacific by the same maker, and it was crazy, especially the first few moves. Is this game worth buying and can you give me a few suggestions on the game if I decide to buy it. Thanks.
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RE: Adivice On This Game - 3/10/2017 3:37:12 PM   
jacktimes2


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Status: offline 		It is a big undertaking, but I find it nowhere near as intimidating as War in the Pacific. It's my favorite Eastern Front wargame.

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RE: Adivice On This Game - 3/10/2017 4:51:56 PM   
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Status: offline 		There are smaller 'training scenarios' you can plan against the AI and have a lot of fun learning after only a single read of the rules (or not even that if you insist). If you are a 'win at all costs' competitive player you have a steep learning curve before you stop getting bits of your anatomy handed to you repeatedly. However you can have a lot of fun playing the AI on easy and moderate settings. On harder settings it gives you a good game (Although with a 'non-human' feel - you can learn its style and hand it sucker punches). By that point you will know the game pretty well. Not a beer and pretzel game, but as Kip said, nowhere in the WitP league (where you need to learn that 14" torpedoes can only be loaded in ports with a 'y' in the name, on alternate Tuesdays, and only if you have a Burger van in the port support unit...

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RE: Adivice On This Game - 3/11/2017 6:39:58 PM   
kip1214

 

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Status: offline 		Thanks for the input. I think I may buy it next week if I have the money. I like tactical intense games like this.

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RE: Adivice On This Game - 3/12/2017 9:31:12 PM   
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Status: offline 		Yes. WITPAE's complexity and depth is just amazing. In that regard WitE is not that difficult to learn, you can play it easily enough without the manual. It is still hard enough to master though, without the manual practically impossible.


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RE: Adivice On This Game - 3/12/2017 9:42:41 PM   
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Status: offline 		if you can get the whole package, the big campaign is still too much for me but if you get the DLC there's a lot of scenarios. I enjoy it and hope to one day be up to the big campaign.

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RE: Adivice On This Game - 3/13/2017 2:46:34 AM   
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Status: offline 		WITPAE is an outstanding high quality simulation.

WITE also is of high quality and strongly recommended - is meant to be played pbem - - - - -

Your wife better not find out!

oh and you will have no life...

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RE: Adivice On This Game - 3/13/2017 8:24:58 AM   
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Status: offline 		WITP and WITE are both very complex game. The advantage of WITE is that you have a turn of one week, instead of a turn of one day.

I played 2 full WITP campaign going to 1944. WITP can have very long turn at the start, but once you set things in motions (first turn could take for me 4 hour), most turns are only "common check" that can be done in 15 minutes. Once place on spot, most units in WITP do only routine patrol without human intervention.

It is not the case in WITE. WITE have less thing to do at peak, but have more thing to do during low activity period. You often have to move all your units every turn.

As a conclusion, i would say that both game take the same amount of time during play. But of course as WITE take 7 time less turn to finish the campaign, a game will not take as long.

you also have a lots of small interesting scenario.

It is also 2 times faster to play german, as there is less units to move.

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RE: Adivice On This Game - 3/13/2017 11:10:53 PM   
SheperdN7


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Status: offline 		It is daunting at first glance but I've found this game way easier to learn then WitP:AE (Which I still like more then WitE just for the record). The manual explains things well enough that you can learn the core principles. I've done 2 playthroughs till mid '44, once as Axis and once as Soviets and it took me about 4 months to get to that point as Germans and about 6 months to get to that point as Soviets. Bear in mind this was against AI, I have not played a PBEM game yet.

In comparison it took me about 6 months just to get to April 1942 in WitP:AE (daily turns are a grind but you learn to LOVE the immersion).


If you're willing to put in the time, go get this game even if it wasn't on sale. The fact that it is, is a no-brainer for me!

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