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Bombing of Rabatana - 3/20/2017 2:13:19 PM   
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Captain Hustad, flying B17E, "Monkey Bizz-Nes"

Target: Rabatana Crater (Rabalanakaia Crater) on East New Britain.

"We also had a plan to drop a couple of 2,000-pound bombs with a 45-second delay into the active volcano that was located on a higher level and quite near the town of Rabaul. We had anticipated that we might cause this volcano to become very active again. It had been flowing lava until 1937. Since then, the volcano had only belched smoke. An occasional fire was seen emanating from the crater called Rabatana. Everyone hoped that the bombs could cause the lava to flow again. That, of course, would necessitate the evacuation of the town as well as the runway and aircraft. The plan was excellent."

"Carl Hustad was the pilot with two 2,000-pound bombs, and he dropped those directly into the Rabatana Crater. They waited around the target for over ten minutes, but there was no explosion. The plans to get the lava flowing failed."
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RE: Bombing of Rabatana - 3/20/2017 2:18:47 PM   
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Interesting story but I believe the power that usually gets a volcano started is much more than what two 2.000 lbs bombs can generate.

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RE: Bombing of Rabatana - 3/20/2017 2:43:51 PM   
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RE: Bombing of Rabatana - 3/20/2017 2:50:43 PM   
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Status: offline 		They dropped the wrong payload. Custom dictates that to activate a dormant volcano would require a virgin rather than a bomb.

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RE: Bombing of Rabatana - 3/20/2017 2:57:45 PM   
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Status: offline 		I thought the purpose of the virgin sacrifice was to prevent an eruption, not cause it. Therefore, to trigger an eruption, you would need ... a different type of person.

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RE: Bombing of Rabatana - 3/20/2017 3:25:30 PM   
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Status: offline 		If I'm not mistaken there was a large eruption at Rabaul in the 70s that buried large parts of the old town and base. Google earth has some beautiful shots of the area.

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RE: Bombing of Rabatana - 3/20/2017 4:23:30 PM   
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RE: Bombing of Rabatana - 3/20/2017 5:03:40 PM   
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I thought the purpose of the virgin sacrifice was to prevent an eruption, not cause it. Therefore, to trigger an eruption, you would need ... a different type of person.


Maybe I watched the wrong movies but I was under the impression it was done to gain the favor of the Volcano God, so if the bomber crew gained that favor....

Assuming of course the bomber's payload didn't turn out to be a dud on arrival.

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RE: Bombing of Rabatana - 3/20/2017 9:07:21 PM   
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Status: offline 		IIRC the volcano did erupt and caused damage to the facilities during the war. This was unfortunately after all the Allied effort which isolated the place anyway.

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RE: Bombing of Rabatana - 3/20/2017 9:19:58 PM   
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Status: offline 		The game has a number of occasional catastrophic events programmed for ships. But not for bases.
Imagine volcanic eruption wiping out your fortified Rabaul. Or tsunami swiping through eastern coast of Japan :) Or earthquake
Gamebreaking, I know, yet.

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RE: Bombing of Rabatana - 3/20/2017 9:20:11 PM   
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RE: Bombing of Rabatana - 3/20/2017 10:02:15 PM   
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Status: offline 		Reminds of Vesuvius eruption that affected 12th Air Force. 340th Bomb group lost 88 B-25...now imagine in game your bombing group without aircraft in one go.

http://www.warwingsart.com/12thAirForce/Vesuvius.html Nice pics.

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http://57thbombwing.com/340th_History/340th_Diary/15_March1944.pdf

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RE: Bombing of Rabatana - 3/20/2017 10:13:08 PM   
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RE: Bombing of Rabatana - 3/20/2017 10:43:56 PM   
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ORIGINAL: Gräfin Zeppelin

Thats all nonsense, it only works if you drop your firstborn into the vulcano.


Ms Zeppelin, what are you suggesting?

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RE: Bombing of Rabatana - 3/21/2017 12:12:37 AM   
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quote:

ORIGINAL: rustysi


quote:

ORIGINAL: Gräfin Zeppelin

Thats all nonsense, it only works if you drop your firstborn into the vulcano.


Ms Zeppelin, what are you suggesting?

I suggest nothing, I am just stating some facts.

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RE: Bombing of Rabatana - 3/21/2017 12:44:22 AM   
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There was no explosion of the bombs. Lava? The Goddess?


Pele the Goddess of fire, lightning, wind and volcanoes.




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RE: Bombing of Rabatana - 3/21/2017 12:45:11 AM   
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ORIGINAL: Yaab

Was that an AP or GP bomb?


It didn't say.

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RE: Bombing of Rabatana - 3/21/2017 12:49:15 AM   
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RE: Bombing of Rabatana - 3/21/2017 5:07:45 AM   
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Status: offline 		If volcanic eruptions make it into the game, will there be a new air mission for diverting the lava flow by bombing?

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RE: Bombing of Rabatana - 3/21/2017 12:30:14 PM   
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ORIGINAL: Sauvequipeut

If volcanic eruptions make it into the game, will there be a new air mission for diverting the lava flow by bombing?



And will we be allowed to drop whatever we want into the volcano?

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RE: Bombing of Rabatana - 3/21/2017 1:30:03 PM   
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ORIGINAL: MakeeLearn


quote:

ORIGINAL: Sauvequipeut

If volcanic eruptions make it into the game, will there be a new air mission for diverting the lava flow by bombing?



And will we be allowed to drop whatever we want into the volcano?




<Looks at CB>

Naw, it would be the End Of Things.

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RE: Bombing of Rabatana - 3/21/2017 6:28:30 PM   
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ORIGINAL: sventhebold

M great uncle was there and talked about the destruction at the airfield in Italy.


I am always fascinated how in many of this historical situations someone knows another person that was there. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Six_degrees_of_separation

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RE: Bombing of Rabatana - 3/21/2017 9:52:28 PM   
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quote:

ORIGINAL: Gräfin Zeppelin


quote:

ORIGINAL: rustysi


quote:

ORIGINAL: Gräfin Zeppelin

Thats all nonsense, it only works if you drop your firstborn into the vulcano.


Ms Zeppelin, what are you suggesting?

I suggest nothing, I am just stating some facts.


Hmmm... My first born you say? Could be a win, win.

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