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SU Divisions - 3/24/2017 10:01:04 PM

BK6583

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What am I missing here? I create one Soviet rifle division - cost 10 APs. It turns out to have a measly CV of '1' at full strength and full morale. I create three rifle brigades = cost - 15 APs - which also have a CV of '1' at full strength. Yet they combine at no cost to a rifle division with a CV of '3' or '4'. What's the use of creating rifle divisions??

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RE: SU Divisions - 3/24/2017 10:28:40 PM

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Full strenght and full morale is not enough. The most important parameter is the Experience XP coming from training. A new unit from scratch need months of training to be effective.

Experience increase a little each turn by training, and a little more during combat (but experience is lost with casualties).

Max experience = unit morale.

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RE: SU Divisions - 3/25/2017 9:08:41 AM

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Rifle Brigades may still have a small morale Bonus thus gaining experience faster thus getting higher CV.

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RE: SU Divisions - 3/25/2017 1:05:50 PM

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You are best off buying 2 brigades + combining them into a division. No need to use 3.

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RE: SU Divisions - 3/25/2017 2:58:28 PM

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quote:

ORIGINAL: sillyflower

You are best off buying 2 brigades + combining them into a division. No need to use 3.

Is this working ? I though to have tested it in my game and 3 were needed. It was not working with 2. Maybe i did a mystake somewhere.

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RE: SU Divisions - 3/25/2017 3:41:12 PM

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ORIGINAL: Denniss

Rifle Brigades may still have a small morale Bonus thus gaining experience faster thus getting higher CV.

No, they don't.

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RE: SU Divisions - 3/25/2017 3:43:13 PM

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By the way, CV of 0.1 shows as 1 on the counter, the same as 0.9 or 1.9. And a division made from three brigades will have too many infantry (and not enough artillery) which they will promptly shed. Rifle brigades were good only when they were allowed to have morale of 50.

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RE: SU Divisions - 3/25/2017 4:32:25 PM

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You may observe the correct/accurate cv by using the mouse pointer over the counters and seeing the hex pop-up.

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RE: SU Divisions - 3/26/2017 9:39:47 PM

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definitely want to avoid losing experienced units as Russian and there is little need under most circumstances to build a lot of units beyond SU's. takes 3+ months to train them up as refit. Obviously cant avoid some counter losses but good to rotate battered units back for refits, as they keep their experience.

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