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Happy 150th Birthday Canada! - 7/1/2017 12:10:51 PM   
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Bonne Fête to my "Home and Native Land"

Canada celebrates it's Sesquicentennial today. Wishing the best to all my fellow Canadians here on this Board and everywhere else they may be as we celebrate 150 years since Confederation.



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RE: Happy 150th Birthday Canada! - 7/1/2017 12:17:56 PM   
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RE: Happy 150th Birthday Canada! - 7/1/2017 12:20:08 PM   
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RE: Happy 150th Birthday Canada! - 7/1/2017 12:44:43 PM   
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Happy Birthday and enjoy yourself´s!

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RE: Happy 150th Birthday Canada! - 7/1/2017 1:47:58 PM   
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RE: Happy 150th Birthday Canada! - 7/1/2017 4:45:39 PM   
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Happy B-Day Canada, eh!

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RE: Happy 150th Birthday Canada! - 7/1/2017 9:27:44 PM   
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Status: offline 		It is not France and England that created Canada 150 years ago. You are a very large country at the forefront of global progress that has its roots for hundreds of years. You are an example for many!
It's a French who that tells you ...

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RE: Happy 150th Birthday Canada! - 7/2/2017 6:23:39 AM   
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It is not France and England that created Canada 150 years ago. You are a very large country at the forefront of global progress that has its roots for hundreds of years. You are an example for many!
It's a French who that tells you ...
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What a strange comment. How can you say Britain and France did not create Canada? Yes, there were indigenous people - although how many I don't know - but the French presence dates back to the early 16th century and the British shortly after. How many Canadians are of British, Irish and French descent?

From colony to self governing Dominion to independent country, Canada has come a long way in 150 years (although only in 1931 did she become effectively independent), but prior to that, that is hundreds of years under French and/or British control. She still has Queen Elizabeth II as her head of state (I say this not because it has any effect on Canadian independence of course but, as with the existence of Quebec, Queen Elizabeth is a reminder of Canada's past).

Yes, Canada is, and has been for many years now, her own proud country, she has her own place in the world, is a rich, successful nation that has been a force for the good and is an important member of the western world. And that is all good. But why you want to deny her history is a mystery. Should the English airbrush William the Conqueror out of her history? As a wise man once said, how do you know where you are going if you don't know where you came from?

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RE: Happy 150th Birthday Canada! - 7/2/2017 6:39:03 AM   
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RE: Happy 150th Birthday Canada! - 7/2/2017 9:35:14 AM   
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We could also talk about the very important role of the USA and the Vatican ...

Thank you for bringing me your English point of view.

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RE: Happy 150th Birthday Canada! - 7/2/2017 11:00:38 AM   
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We could also talk about the very important role of the USA and the Vatican ...

Thank you for bringing me your English point of view.

Je vous ai compris
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Well yes if you want, but I was answering your post that specifically denied that Canada's creation into the nation state that she has become has anything to do with France and the United Kingdom.

And to be clear, mine is not an English point of view. Sadly I suspect a great many of my fellow country men and women could no more place Canada on the map than know she once had links to the UK.

It is however the point of view from an Englishman .


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RE: Happy 150th Birthday Canada! - 7/2/2017 11:43:49 AM   
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RE: Happy 150th Birthday Canada! - 7/2/2017 11:48:52 AM   
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I'm happy to avoid a new hundred years war
warspite1

Well that makes two of us - I wonder how many died on both sides fighting pointless wars down the ages?


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RE: Happy 150th Birthday Canada! - 7/2/2017 11:57:04 AM   
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I'm happy to avoid a new hundred years war
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Well that makes two of us - I wonder how many died on both sides fighting pointless wars down the ages?


Are you trying to become philosophical?

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RE: Happy 150th Birthday Canada! - 7/2/2017 12:00:59 PM   
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RE: Happy 150th Birthday Canada! - 7/2/2017 12:08:24 PM   
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Perhaps for one side a war is pointless. Which side depends on what side you're on.
warspite1

Of course. There is usually a point or there wouldn't be a war. I was talking purely with hindsight and lamenting the futility of it all given where we are now.....


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RE: Happy 150th Birthday Canada! - 7/2/2017 12:13:09 PM   
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Perhaps for one side a war is pointless. Which side depends on what side you're on.
warspite1

Of course. There is usually a point or there wouldn't be a war. I was talking purely with hindsight and lamenting the futility of it all given where we are now.....


Philosophical it is.

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RE: Happy 150th Birthday Canada! - 7/2/2017 12:15:59 PM   
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Perhaps for one side a war is pointless. Which side depends on what side you're on.
warspite1

Of course. There is usually a point or there wouldn't be a war. I was talking purely with hindsight and lamenting the futility of it all given where we are now.....


Philosophical it is.
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RE: Happy 150th Birthday Canada! - 7/2/2017 1:13:43 PM   
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From the 14th century to the 19th century, probably 1 to 3 million counting both sides.
Beyond the victims, the cultural weight of all its conflicts which has affected each generation for six centuries can only be understood by a French or an English.

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RE: Happy 150th Birthday Canada! - 7/2/2017 1:23:03 PM   
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From the 14th century to the 19th century, probably 1 to 3 million counting both sides.
Beyond the victims, the cultural weight of all its conflicts which has affected each generation for six centuries can only be understood by a French or an English.
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Sadly we were still killing each other in the 20th Century too

On a more positive note its been good to see the solidarity shown by each to each post more recent sad events .

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RE: Happy 150th Birthday Canada! - 7/2/2017 1:48:33 PM   
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RE: Happy 150th Birthday Canada! - 7/2/2017 2:03:04 PM   
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From the 14th century to the 19th century, probably 1 to 3 million counting both sides.
Beyond the victims, the cultural weight of all its conflicts which has affected each generation for six centuries can only be understood by a French or an English.

You meant in the hundred years war alone?

Here is a list that show the casualties for some wars. And the deaths are in the millions and millions.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_wars_and_anthropogenic_disasters_by_death_toll#Wars_and_armed_conflicts_whose_highest_estimated_casualties_are_1.2C000.2C000_or_more

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RE: Happy 150th Birthday Canada! - 7/2/2017 2:07:37 PM   
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From the 14th century to the 19th century, probably 1 to 3 million counting both sides.
Beyond the victims, the cultural weight of all its conflicts which has affected each generation for six centuries can only be understood by a French or an English.

You meant in the hundred years war alone?

Here is a list that show the casualties for some wars. And the deaths are in the millions and millions.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_wars_and_anthropogenic_disasters_by_death_toll#Wars_and_armed_conflicts_whose_highest_estimated_casualties_are_1.2C000.2C000_or_more
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No, the British vs the French

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RE: Happy 150th Birthday Canada! - 7/2/2017 2:11:26 PM   
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RE: Happy 150th Birthday Canada! - 7/2/2017 2:47:53 PM   
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Sometimes my memory fails, I do not remember all the losses, I think I remember that in Sweden we lost someone whose name was Jean-Baptiste Bernadotte

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RE: Happy 150th Birthday Canada! - 7/3/2017 2:45:05 AM   
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Wars are not pointless! We wouldn't have wargames without them.

I have German friends and their history curriculum is unsurprisingly "light" on the first half of the 20th Century, although the Germans have demonstrated admirable courage in addressing the atrocities of the Nazi era.

They are amazed at the amount of military history on Australian TV and how prominent military stuff is in society in general. That is, on the news, ex military people heading investigations, being made Governor General etc etc.

They are completely uncomprehending of TV shows like Dad's Army and my attempts to explain Hogan's Heroes didn't go well.

Them: "I do not understand. A German prisoner of war camp would not be inefficiently run".

"Look", I said. "We can have a bit of a laugh about it because we won. It's just a good thing you didn't win or laughs would be few and far between. And in German".

They're a bit embarrassed about Germany's past but I said to them, "You can't have a gigantic, mechanised, global war, with all the cool aircraft, tanks, ships radar and whatnot without some bad-guys, and you, along with the Japanese, were the best bad-guys ever"

They got the joke.

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