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RE: Thread for DB3000 database problems, updates or issues - 7/3/2017 8:58:12 PM   
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When there is time, I hope that Finnish coast guard aircraft and navy units get some more love:

And hopefully new Jurmo-class landing craft Wiki-link can be found (can't post links)

and older Jehu-class landing craft

The most important aircraft missing is coastal guar Dornier patrol craft

Do-228 Dornier (coast guard)
Two-motor survellaince
Crew: 3-4
Passengers: max 4
Max take-off weight: 6 575 kg
Speed: 360 km/h
Range: 1 250 km

Kit: MSS 6000 surveillance kit (360 surface radar, SLAR, IR/UV sensor, high resolution camera, radio-direction finder)
System is pretty much state-of-the-art and based on Swedish design.

"The MSS 5000 and 6000 systems have been installed for coast guard organisations on several different aircraft types and in countries around the world, e.g. in Sweden, Norway, Estonia, Poland, Portugal, Greece, USA and Canada. The system uses state-of-the art technology and is designed to be an integral part of todays multi-faceted maritime surveillance mission. Facts The MSS 6000 for the Finnish Border Guard is a fully integrated system including SLAR (Side-Looking Airborne Radar), IR/UV (Infrared/ Ultraviolet) scanner, still and video cameras, AIS (Automatic Identification System), and a high-speed satellite data link. Existing FLIR and search radar will also be partially integrated. Information from the sensors will be displayed in real time and is tightly integrated with a tactical map. The map image has a large number of operator selectable overlays for back- ground information to support the mission. The map gives an up-to-date situation overview by providing the operator with time stamped information such as a plot of the flight track, continuously updated AIS information, observation and target notes, notes on location of captured images from cameras as well as geocorrected overlays from SLAR and IR/UV. All information from the mission is saved and can be compiled in mission reports and sent via the satellite data link to a command center and/or to cooperating units. "

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RE: Thread for DB3000 database problems, updates or issues - 7/4/2017 9:11:05 AM   
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Please add Russian new minesweeper Alexandrit-class? One is currently active in Baltic Fleet and another is coming to active service later 2017. It could lay mines too.

Type: Minesweeper
Displacement:
standard 620 tons
full dicplacement 890 tons
Length: 61 m (200 ft)
Beam: 10.2 m (33 ft)
Draught: 2.68 m (8 ft 10 in)
Installed power: 1 × 2500 h.p., diesel, 2 diesel generators x315 kW, 2 diesel generators x210 kW
Speed: 16.5 knots (31 km/h)
Range: 1,600 nmi (3,000 km; 1,800 mi) at 10 knots (19 km/h; 12 mph)
Endurance: 10 days
Crew: 45
Armament:
1 × 6 30 mm AK-306
SAM system "Igla"
Mines

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RE: Thread for DB3000 database problems, updates or issues - 7/4/2017 11:34:29 AM   
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ORIGINAL: Dysta


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ORIGINAL: Yvonmukluk

I have one or two suggestions, which I think might be useful for the ever-popular WWIII/Cold War gone hot scenario.

Firstly, I noticed that the USS Lexington (CV-16) isn't in the DB3000. While obviously it was only a training carrier by 1980, it does have the distinction of being the longest-serving Essex-class carrier, serving up until 1991. Perhaps in a particularly desperate scenario, it could be used as a stopgap measure. Perhaps taking a cue from the British and flying Marine Corps Harriers as a makeshift air wing...

Secondly, as hypotheticals, the two Audacious-class carriers, Eagle and Ark Royal could potentially be carried over from the CWDB. The Ark Royal, at least, was decommissioned in 1979, right at the cutoff point, so perhaps it could also but justified as being rushed back into service, should a need be identified. The Eagle would be harder to justify, but could be explained by a different policy when it comes to fixed-wing aviation.

These are before 80s, maybe you should ask that in CWDB thread?

They're already in the CWDB, I'm suggesting that they could be carried forward into the DB3000 (on historical grounds for the Lexington, and hypothetical grounds for the Audacious-class).

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RE: Thread for DB3000 database problems, updates or issues - 7/6/2017 2:25:21 PM   
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DB list updated to this point. Thank you all!

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RE: Thread for DB3000 database problems, updates or issues - 7/6/2017 3:25:31 PM   
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Addition to the request on Alexandrit-class (Project 12700)

http://militaryrussia.ru/blog/topic-778.html
http://bastion-opk.ru/12700-alexandrite/

Equipments:
Navigation radar "PAL-N" http://concern-agat.ru/produktsiya/radiolokatsiya/navigatsionnaya-radiolokatsionnaya-stantsiya-pal-n1
Automatic communications system R-779 "Ruberoid"
Sonar to detect underwater sabotage forces "Anapa" http://roe.ru/catalog/voenno-morskoy-flot/korabelnye-radioelektronnye-sistemy/anapa-me/
Underwater sound communications sonar "Structura-35"
Sound velocity profiler "Altyn-M"

Armament addition:
1х14.5 mm machine-gun mount http://www.zid.ru/products/defence/44/detail/180

Minesweep equipment:
Broadband acoustic minesweeping gear
Single and double contact sweeps



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RE: Thread for DB3000 database problems, updates or issues - 7/7/2017 2:55:50 PM   
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Can we update the radar for future versions of the MQ-8C Fire Scout (#4031) please?

The US Navy has confirmed Leonardo's award of the contract after Telephonics legal objection (supplier of the ZPY-4 for the MQ-8B model).

The award is for a 2-panel version of the Osprey MM/30 radar, to be designated the ZPY-8.

AN/ZPY-8 Osprey MM/30

AESA
240 degree coverage (2-panel version)
Sea, Land and Air surveillance
Derivative of the Sea Spray family (7400E, database #5176)
Combines Vixen 1000E (ES-05 Raven fighter/interceptor derivative, database #5074) and PicoSAR (battlefield surveillance radar) algorithms.

A 3-panel version (360 degree coverage) is being fitted to Norwegian SAR helicopters and a 1-panel (120 degree) version was fitted as a demonstration to an SW-4 optionally-manned helicopter during the Unmanned Warrior 2016 exercise. A 4-panel (also 360 degree coverage) version is offered for fixed-wing aircraft.

Sources:

http://www.forecastinternational.com/news/index.cfm?recno=247064

https://www.flightglobal.com/news/articles/leonardo-reveals-details-of-osprey-sale-for-fire-sco-430436/

http://www.leonardocompany.com/en/-/leonardo-osprey-us-navy

http://www.leonardocompany.com/documents/63265270/79282603/ComLDO_Osprey_Fire_Scout_17_09_2016_ENG.pdf

http://www.leonardocompany.com/en/-/vixen1000e

http://www.leonardocompany.com/documents/63265270/65578812/Vixen_1000E_LQ_mm08133_.pdf

http://www.leonardocompany.com/documents/63265270/65501186/mm07777_Seaspray_7500E_LQ_.pdf

(7400E is the same system as the 7500E but with a smaller panel)

Technical brochure:

http://www.leonardocompany.com/documents/63265270/78873603/Osprey_MM_LQ_mm08527_.pdf

Further information:

http://www.ainonline.com/aviation-news/defense/2016-05-03/leonardo-reveals-new-lightweight-surveillance-radar

https://www.flightglobal.com/news/articles/leonardo-unveils-lightweight-osprey-aesa-radar-424913/

https://www.flightglobal.com/news/articles/royal-navy-embarks-on-unmanned-warrior-exercise-430163/

Photographs:

AW101 3-panel installation for Norwegian SAR:



SW-4 1-panel installation for Unmanned Warrior 2016 demonstration:



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RE: Thread for DB3000 database problems, updates or issues - 7/9/2017 12:39:35 PM   
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I have a few request:

1) Adding the Patroller UAV, IOC 2020 in the French Army, 14x

characteristics:
speed: 55-110kt
ceiling: 20 000 ft
endurance: 20h

sensors: new Euroflir 410 FLIR, with laser designator

loadouts (from manufacturer pdf):
long endurance: with 2 external fuel tanks
land surveillance: 1 external tank + (GMTI/SAR radar or ELINT/COMINT payload)
Maritime surveillance: 1 external tank + maritime radar (search & SAR) pod
Complete: maritime radar pod + ELINT pod

Manufacturer site:
https://www.safran-electronics-defense.com/aerospace/uav-systems/patroller-systems
https://www.safran-electronics-defense.com/sites/sagem/files/patroller-rpas.pdf
sensor:
https://www.safran-electronics-defense.com/file/download/euroflir_410.pdf
sensor pods at the 2017 Paris Air show:
https://farm5.staticflickr.com/4260/34812634404_dd5722d020_b.jpg

2) RCS adjustments
Currently the two stealth UCAV in the database (the MQ-25 and the Neuron) have a RCS equal or larger to the F-22. Since they have a planform optimized for stealth, are more than 20 years more recent and are supposed to go where current fighter can't, they should have much smaller RCS. I propose to reduce their RCS by 10 dB, which will reduce the detection ranges by 40% and give them the tactical advantage they are supposed to have.
Also the F-35 has the same RCS from the front and from behind in the DB. It should have a much larger RCS from behind since the engine is visible.




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RE: Thread for DB3000 database problems, updates or issues - 7/9/2017 3:15:49 PM   
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quote:

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quote:

ORIGINAL: JamitovHymem

The VLS torpedo on the 054A should be changed to Yu-8

http://bmpd.livejournal.com/2697841.html
http://english.chinamil.com.cn/view/2017-06/30/content_7659120_2.htm
http://www.mod.gov.cn/photos/2017-06/30/content_4784174.htm


#2869 - CY-3 (Yu-7) -> Yu-8


With a recent photo to ensure it's the official designation:



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RE: Thread for DB3000 database problems, updates or issues - 7/9/2017 6:04:20 PM   
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Request,

Hameenmaa (ML) is missing it's mine rails. PS this is planned to retire around 2024.

PS. Nice to see so many Finland systems. :)

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RE: RE:MYANMAR NAVY - 7/11/2017 11:24:49 AM   
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One more request, if possible:

People's Liberation Army Special Operations Forces


Finally, it seems the Chinese Spec-ops he's looking for is actually from a Chinese military movie teaser named Operation Red Sea - a 500 millions RMB megaproject to be produced in Morocco.

They were called "Jiaolong Assault Team" or JAT, the SWAT-black looking Chinese spec-ops. They are belongs to PLAN and they are usually be seen onboard frigates and destroyers. They were revealed in 2009 at Gulf of Aden:

http://media.gettyimages.com/photos/the-chinese-navy-wave-from-the-advanced-ship-on-july-16-2009-in-of-picture-id89054666 (click to see image)

Not sure if these troops will be used as covert operations IRL, but from official reports sited these guys are trained even tougher than Navy SEAL, they take drowning practices like breakfasts.

I will see for more info out of them. From a movie however could be a bad idea though.

Movie info and teaser: http://variety.com/2017/film/asia/first-footage-of-chinese-action-film-operation-red-sea-exclusive-1202428429/

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RE: RE:MYANMAR NAVY - 7/11/2017 11:15:05 PM   
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Couple of Requests for near future units:

F/A-18E/F Super Hornet Block III (Early 2020s)
Add Conformal Fuel Tanks (so just increase fuel capacity) to increase range (low end I've seen +120nm to radius, high end I've seen +300nm).
Slight Reduction to RCS (New coating).
Integrated IRST

Other upgrades are to computer processing, datalink, and pilot displays. Not sure what changes this would translate to in game.

http://www.popularmechanics.com/military/aviation/a26833/us-navy-approves-boeings-f-1-8/
http://breakingdefense.com/2017/03/inside-boeings-f-18-pitch-to-white-house-fewer-f-35cs-means-shorter-fight/
http://nationalinterest.org/blog/the-buzz/why-boeings-block-iii-f-18e-f-super-hornet-about-become-21282

Multi-Mission Combat Ship (Saudi LCS Modification):

Modified Freedom class ship. USN Equivalent possible as part of FFG(X) although it does not meet all requirements. Would also swap NSM for Harpoon.

Length increased to 387'
Complement increased to 100-130
Mission Modules removed
2x 8 cell Mk41 VLS cells for ESSM or SM-2
Airbus TRS-4D AESA
2x FCR for SM-2
57mm gun replaced with 76mm gun
8x Harpoon II missiles
2x Torpedo launchers for Mk46 Torpedo (Triple Tube, presumably)

Range increased to 5000nm @ 10 knots
Speed decreased to "in excess of 30 knots" (likely 37 knots)

Saudi MH-60R would also need to be added to database. Plan is to buy 4x Frigates and 10x MH-60R

http://www.defensenews.com/story/breaking-news/2015/10/20/us-oks-potential-1125b-saudi-deal-lcs-variant/74280014/
https://news.usni.org/2015/10/20/saudi-arabia-set-to-buy-four-lockheed-martin-freedom-class-variants-in-11-25b-deal
http://www.defensenews.com/story/breaking-news/2015/09/15/saudi-arabia-eastern-fleet-naval-expansion-lockheed-martin-littoral-combat-ship-lcs-us-navy-foreign-military-sales/72303394/
https://news.usni.org/2017/05/19/saudi-arabia-set-6b-lockheed-martin-frigate-deals-part-massive-110b-u-s-arms-sale
https://news.usni.org/2016/05/18/new-saudi-frigate-design-details-emerge

Patrol Frigate Variants for FFG(X) USN
All are modified National Security Cutters by Huntington-Ingalls
Highly Recommended Video: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G_wusP9gBvs

FF4501 (less likely considering RFP for FFG(X) Requirements)
Essentially exact same as Database unit 2431 with the addition of a Sterm Ramp for 11m RHIB and Side Davit for 7m RHIB. All Tout 8000nm range at 10 knots. All have facilities for 2x MH-60 Helicopters and/or up to 4x UAV

FF4910
Addition of ES-3701 ESM Suite (as in Unit 755 Visby Corvette)
SeaRAM instead of CIWS
Torpedo/Sonobuoy Magazine for Helicopters
Stern Ramp for 11m RHIB
Towed Array Sonar (Probable ITT 980 like below)
UUV Docking/Launch facilities for Mine warfare

FF4921
Same as FF4910 PLUS:
Nixie Torpedo Decoy
TT 980 Towed Array VDS Sonar (As seen in unit 1482)
2x Mk32 Triple Torpedo Launchers
TT 997 Hull Mounted Sonar (EDO 997 in game)
12 cell MK 56 VLS for ESSM (quad packed)
6x CEA-FAR Radar + 4x CEA-MOUNT Radar (as seen on unit 2607)
Gun replaced with 76mm OTO MElara Gun
2x 25mm Autocannon Weapon Stations
2x 4 tube Missile Launchers for NSM/JSM

FF4922
Same as FF4921 Plus/Except
CAPTAS VDS Instead of TT980
KINGKLIP Sonar Instead of TT997 (as seen on unit 2367)
1x STIR 1.2 FC Radar (and other STIR sensors, presumably)
SMART-S Radar suite (presumably in lieu of CEA-FAR but not confirmed)

FF4923
Same as 4922 Plus/Except
2x STIR 2.4 FC Radar (plus other STIR 2.4 sensors)
16 Cell Mk41 VLS (instead of Mk56) for SM-2, ESSM, ASROC

http://www.defensemedianetwork.com/stories/patrol-frigate-concepts-from-huntington-ingalls-industries-gain-traction-internationally/
https://news.usni.org/2017/07/10/navy-releases-details-of-new-ffgx-guided-missile-frigate-program-in-request-to-industry

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RE: RE:MYANMAR NAVY - 7/12/2017 7:45:23 PM   
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New Navy requirements for the FFG(X):

https://news.usni.org/2017/07/10/navy-releases-details-of-new-ffgx-guided-missile-frigate-program-in-request-to-industry

"...The RFI notes the Navy is still seeking industry input on a variety of capabilities – including, how to incorporate missile launchers for Evolved Sea Sparrow Missile (ESSM) Block 2 and Standard Missile (SM)-2, according to an early draft of the RFI obtained by USNI News...

...The Navy still has not worked out how to incorporate VLS into its frigate plans, and the RFI does not include VLS in its chart of required weapon systems but rather requests input from potential shipbuilders on how to incorporate the missile launchers. Though this issue doesn’t have an engineering solution yet, the new name of the ship class – guided-missile frigate (FFG(X)) compared to the previously named frigate (FF) – suggests a dedication to resolving this issue...

...Many of the required weapons systems are pulled from the previous FF requirements: the COMBATSS-21 Combat Management System, which pulls software from the same common source library as the Aegis Combat System on large surface combatants; the SeaRAM anti-ship missile defense system; a canister-launched over-the-horizon missile; the surface-to-surface Longbow Hellfire missile; the Mk53 Nulka decoy launching system; the Surface Electron Warfare Improvement Program (SEWIP) Block 2 program with SLQ-32(V)6; and a slew of undersea warfare tools such as the AN/SLQ-61 light weight tow, AN/SQS-62 variable depth sonar and AN/SQQ-89F undersea warfare/anti-submarine warfare combat system. It also requires use of the MK 110 57mm gun with the Advanced Low Cost Munition Ordnance (ALaMO) projectile being developed for the LCS and frigate.

Other required weapon systems would promote commonality with larger ships in the fleet, such as the Enterprise Air Surveillance Radar (EASR), a larger variant of which will go on future Ford-class aircraft carriers and amphibious assault ships...

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RE: RE:MYANMAR NAVY - 7/13/2017 6:00:36 AM   
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You can find the entire FFG(X) RFI here: https://www.fbo.gov/index?s=opportunity&mode=form&id=cdf24447b8015337e910d330a87518c6&tab=core&_cview=0

Lots of good details in there, in addition to what the poster above has said. The OTH missile being described will almost certainly be the NSM since it is the only missile still in the competition. (Lockheed pulled the LRASM, Boeing Pulled the Harpoon).
Source: https://news.usni.org/2017/05/24/lockheed-martin-drops-lrasm-frigate-missile-competition

Delivery set for around 2024.
Source: http://www.janes.com/article/71815/usn-expects-first-delivery-of-future-frigate-in-2024

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RE: RE:MYANMAR NAVY - 7/13/2017 8:33:50 AM   
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Some thoughts on the RFI are here: http://navy-matters.blogspot.ca/

Seems the author considers the RFI - 'underwhelming'

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RE: RE:MYANMAR NAVY - 7/13/2017 4:02:21 PM   
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Updated our wish list to this point.

Thank you!

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RE: RE:MYANMAR NAVY - 7/13/2017 7:40:24 PM   
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Some thoughts on the RFI are here: http://navy-matters.blogspot.ca/

Seems the author considers the RFI - 'underwhelming'

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That's probably fair, though I think that link is a little too much of a wet blanket.

With 'only' ESSM and SM-2, the ship can't be an AAW escort? "Only" 8 cannister launched OTH anti-ship missiles?

That's a little ridiculous - SM-2 and the latest ESSM variants allow plenty of range for air defense. Of course they're not SM-3 or -6s, but so what? Both missiles, in the likely quantities you'd be able to have on a single 3-5000 ton ship are sufficient for everything but an all-out peer-on-peer fight where the ship is totally on its own against a full squadron of missile boats or aircraft. And 8x anti-ship missiles is standard for the vast majority of frigate-class ships in the world. Sure, 12x or 16x would be better, of course, but that's also that much more expensive, deckspace and weight for cost.

The design also doesn't include the VLS system, but it also doesn't exclude it. A 16-24 cell VLS would let you carry plenty of ESSMs, maybe just enough SM-2s if you don't carry anything else, and ASROC, NSM (which has been tested in a VLS configuation and also has a land-attack capability, IIRC) and anything else you can fit in there.

We'll probably get a variant of the LCS, with 16x VLS for ESSM, 8x NSM, that stupid 57mm gun (though a 5"/62 with Vulcano guided rounds would be ideal, and are being installed on the DDGs) and SeaRAM.

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RE: RE:MYANMAR NAVY - 7/14/2017 3:07:01 AM   
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I was thinking the doctrine with 'few' (8 or less) ASM is to knockdown only one easiest target; 'a ship for a ship' sort of approach.

Especially with aircraft carrier and submarine to compromise the hostile fleet's AA defenses until it's certain they cannot hold themselves any further. Then firing a small volley of ASM to act as a finishing move when hostile cannot effectively intercept them.

Without various platforms (carriers, bombers, subs, other land-based assets) to shredding an onion skins however, 8 shots of ASM is pathetic. That's why some budget and platform limited navies will practice saturation strike approach, to spear through AA defenses as fast as possible.

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RE: RE:MYANMAR NAVY - 7/14/2017 6:14:15 PM   
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Aster Missile Update


#134 - Aster 15 PAAMS [GWS.45 Sea Viper]

Target Altitude:

- 13000 m (1)


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#133 - Aster 30 PAAMS [GWS.45 Sea Viper]

Max Speed:

- Depending on the source, 2650 kts (3) or 3000 kts (2)


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#578 - Aster 30 SAAM-FR/IT

Currently the Aster SAAM ingame is based on the Aster 30. IRL however, there's only the Aster 15 variant as Aster 30 was never developed for the SAAM system. France and Italy both use Aster 30 PAAMS (SAAM ESD) and Aster 30 Blk 1 (SAMP/T).

Name:

- Aster 30 SAAM-FR/IT --> Aster 15 SAAM (Add SAAM-FR, SAAM-IT as side notes?)

Date:

- Depending on the source, between 1999 (1) and 2002 (4)(5)

General Data:

- Same stats as those of the corrected Aster 15 DB entry

Used by:

- Should replace the Aster 15 PAMMS aboard the Charles de Gaulle and Cavour-class CVs, all FREMM/Horizon-class vessels (6) and the Singaporean Formidable-class FFG (10)


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#681 - Aster Blk 1 ABM

Name:

- Aster Blk 1 ABM --> Aster 30 Blk 1 (Add ABM as side note?)

Max Speed:

- Same as corrected Aster 30 PAAMS


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#230 - SAM Bty (Mamba [SAMP/T]) and #735 - SAM Bty (Mamba [SAMP/T])

Name:

- (#230) SAM Bty (Mamba [SAMP/T]) --> SAM Bty (SAMP/T [Mamba]) (Mamba designation is only used by France.)
- (#735) SAM Bty (Mamba [SAMP/T]) --> SAM Bty (SAMP/T)

Date:

- (#735) First SAMP/T Regiment activated mid-2012 (7)

Mounts:

- Aster TELs should be using the Aster 30 Blk 1 instead of Aster 30 PAAMS (7)


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Request: Aster 30 Blk 1NT

Aster 30 Blk 1-based missile with new seeker head (11) and potentially upgraded booster. Has been dubbed an Anti-ASBM weapon. (8)


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(1)(6) http://www.mbda-systems.com/product/aster-15-30/ (Check downloadable Datasheet for info)
(2) http://www.occar.int/43
http://www.eurosam.com/products/ground-launched-systems/
(3) http://www.eurosam.com/products/eurosams-building-block/aster/
(4) http://www.eurosam.com/mbdas-saam-fr-naval-air-defence-system-successfully-carries-out-first-salvo-firing/
http://www.eurosam.com/products/eurosams-building-block/arabel/ (<-- Additional info on the Arabel MFR if needed)
(5) http://www.mbda-systems.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/01/2017-01-Aster-Family-Facts-Figures-Txt.pdf
(7) http://www.armyrecognition.com/france_french_army_vehicle_missile_systems_uk/samp/t_mamba_aster_30_surface-to-air_defense_missile_system_technical_data_sheet_pictures_video.html
https://web.archive.org/web/20150330142007/http://www.mbda-systems.com/mediagallery/files/aster-family_background-1402652367.pdf
(8) http://www.mbda-systems.com/press-releases/mbda-welcomes-italys-participation-aster-30-block-1-nt-programme/
http://www.mbda-systems.com/product/aster-30-sampt/
https://ukdefencejournal.org.uk/britain-considers-arming-type-45-destroyers-anti-ballistic-missile-weapons/?utm_source=FB&utm_medium=FacebookPage&utm_campaign=social
(10) https://books.google.de/books?id=gqaYM9BxoVMC&pg=PA504&lpg=PA504&dq=formidable+class+Aster+SAAM&source=bl&ots=OnGneR06a0&sig=3hwE7_6Mc_4mFWt9X4fzlR_Jfgw&hl=de&sa=X&ved=0ahUKEwiwzaKyvffTAhXJfywKHZsaCwQQ6AEIUzAJ#v=onepage&q=formidable%20class%20Aster%20SAAM&f=false
(11) https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JG2B-Ot9SL4

Thanks! Next up will be a bigger update on the SM-6.

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RE: RE:MYANMAR NAVY - 7/15/2017 3:50:56 PM   
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Wonder if someone already asked for Tor-M2 with a new 9M338(K) missile.

System: http://bastion-karpenko.ru/tor-m2/
Missile: http://bmpd.livejournal.com/603562.html


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RE: Thread for DB3000 database problems, updates or issues - 7/15/2017 8:08:19 PM   
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Hello,
I would like to request some missing stuff for the russians.

1) R-77-1 (RVV-SD) missile loadouts for the Su-27SM/3 and Su-30SM jets (Su-35S already has them). Both mix with older missiles and full R-77-1 loadouts. The real life situation is that the production was delayed quite a bit and the procurement started only in 2015. The first missiles (batch of about 30) that were delivered early 2016 we saw on the Su-35S in Syria. Next we saw them on Su-27SM3 as it was posted above me by Triode in post 3615. Till November this year they will get about 450-500 of those missiles and almost as much next year as well. So once they hit the squadrons in mass we will start seeing different loadouts, ofc mainly mixed with older missiles at first as they won't have that many for full R-77-1 loadouts. The AIM-120D and Meteor are quite rare atm also, but they have full loadouts for "near future" scenarios, so same should apply for the russian planes.

2) SAMs - Tor-M1-2U with 9М338 missiles and Tor M2 with 9М338К missiles. They actively procure such systems atm, got 32 each during the 2016 procurement.
https://sputniknews.com/russia/201706111054523140-russia-missiles-test/
http://bmpd.livejournal.com/2511001.html

3) S-300V4 SAM is missing it's long range missile. It's called 9M82MD and has range up to 400km. Only the short and medium range ones are available in Command atm.
http://tass.com/defense/898884

4) Su-34 loadout including the SAP-14 jamming pod. It's in active service already.


5) The russian Altius-M MALE UAV. Prototype yet, but for near future scenarios :)





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RE: Thread for DB3000 database problems, updates or issues - 7/17/2017 9:19:39 AM   
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The Emory S. Land-class submarine tenders are missing from the DB. Also, the F-35 is ostensibly able to fire the LRASM, but none of the U.S. F-35s in the DB have them in their inventory (the DB is also missing the USMC F-35C, only has navy variants ATM).

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RE: Thread for DB3000 database problems, updates or issues - 7/18/2017 7:40:40 PM   
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I'm surprised that there's no CATOBAR version of the R07 Queen Elizabeth. Granted, it seems like such an option isn't likely to be feasible in the real world, but it seems like a logical hypothetical option.

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RE: Thread for DB3000 database problems, updates or issues - 7/20/2017 12:51:46 PM   
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Hi,

Request to add following facilities / aircraft to the DB:

Hungarian Gripen

Hungarian air force
Wikipedia
SAAB / manufacturer

12 JAS 39 C
2 JAS 39 D conversion trainer


Kecskemet airbase


single 2.5km runway,

Map link
Wikipedia

Czech Gripens

Wikipedia
SAAB / manufacturer
Czech Government

12 JAS 39 C
2 JAS 39 D conversion trainer


Thanks

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RE: Thread for DB3000 database problems, updates or issues - 7/20/2017 1:54:17 PM   
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The name of the first Type 26 frigate to be build has been announced. Main Hangar will be capable to house a single helicopter, up to the size of a Merlin.

#2514 - Type 26 GCS and #2795 - Type 26 GCS

Name:

- (#2514) Type 26 GCS --> F Glasgow [Type 26 City]
- (#2795) Type 26 GCS --> F Glasgow [Type 26 City]

Aircraft Facilities:

- The current hangar should be replaced with one hangar for a single medium aircraft and a smaller hangar for UAVs. (1)

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http://www.royalnavy.mod.uk/news-and-latest-activity/news/2017/july/20/170720-first-new-type-26-frigate-is-named-as-steel-cutting-begins-on-the-clyde
(1) https://scontent.ftxl1-1.fna.fbcdn.net/v/t31.0-8/20232298_1499253086788068_3423568639481467498_o.jpg?oh=b58d53a3f5c7da1f73203cc86953bc3b&oe=5A048527

Thanks for considering!

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RE: Thread for DB3000 database problems, updates or issues - 7/20/2017 3:50:58 PM   
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DB request list updated to this point. Thanks!

Mike

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RE: Thread for DB3000 database problems, updates or issues - 7/21/2017 12:45:22 AM   
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Hello,

Has anyone asked for the:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Textron_AirLand_Scorpion

Just an idea. Looks like a fairly maneuverable bird compared to the A-10?

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RE: Thread for DB3000 database problems, updates or issues - 7/21/2017 12:01:20 PM   
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Foto MAKS 2017 Su-35S 2Хr-77-1 on one pylon

Here also the T-220 container is visible on the right pylon.


Container t-220



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RE: Thread for DB3000 database problems, updates or issues - 7/21/2017 5:51:57 PM   
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Missing:

2014 Finland made decision to buy FIM-92 Stinger (RMB Block 1) SHORAD missiles. Stingers will reportedly be used to replace Finland’s current arsenal of Russian-made SA-16/18 Igla missiles and 23mm “Sergei” (ZU-23 ItK 61) towed guns. Really bargain price for ~600 missiles.

These missiles are in use early 2015 and named: Ilmatorjuntaohjus 15 (ITO 15) Stinger RMP Block 1

Source: http://www.defenseindustrydaily.com/finland-updating-its-air-defense-systems-05398/

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RE: Thread for DB3000 database problems, updates or issues - 7/21/2017 8:17:17 PM   
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AN/SPY- 6 AMDR radar is scalable. Would it be possible to add both a hypothetical larger (i.e. 20 foot instead of current 14 ft on AB iii) AMDR radar and hypothetical smaller AMDR radar (which could be used in frigate sized ship like LCS MMCS). Assume primary difference from current AMDR radar would be in range/power.

Also second request for hypothetical Queen Elizabeth class with catapults.

Thanks again for considering.


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RE: RE:MYANMAR NAVY - 7/22/2017 5:21:47 PM   
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Some additional sources of information...I hope this helps...

Quick question...if the first hull is funded in 2020, is it reasonable to assume service dates of 2025- for this class?

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/FFG(X) <-- lists likely sensors, etc.

http://www.defensenews.com/articles/us-navy-releases-specs-for-a-proposed-guided-missile-frigate-a-break-from-the-littoral-combat-ship

http://www.defensenews.com/articles/exclusive-interview-the-navys-surface-warfare-director-talks-frigate-requirements

http://www.nationalinterest.org/blog/the-buzz/the-us-navy-wants-20-new-guided-missile-frigates-21577

quote:

ORIGINAL: hellfish6

New Navy requirements for the FFG(X):

https://news.usni.org/2017/07/10/navy-releases-details-of-new-ffgx-guided-missile-frigate-program-in-request-to-industry

"...The RFI notes the Navy is still seeking industry input on a variety of capabilities – including, how to incorporate missile launchers for Evolved Sea Sparrow Missile (ESSM) Block 2 and Standard Missile (SM)-2, according to an early draft of the RFI obtained by USNI News...

...The Navy still has not worked out how to incorporate VLS into its frigate plans, and the RFI does not include VLS in its chart of required weapon systems but rather requests input from potential shipbuilders on how to incorporate the missile launchers. Though this issue doesn’t have an engineering solution yet, the new name of the ship class – guided-missile frigate (FFG(X)) compared to the previously named frigate (FF) – suggests a dedication to resolving this issue...

...Many of the required weapons systems are pulled from the previous FF requirements: the COMBATSS-21 Combat Management System, which pulls software from the same common source library as the Aegis Combat System on large surface combatants; the SeaRAM anti-ship missile defense system; a canister-launched over-the-horizon missile; the surface-to-surface Longbow Hellfire missile; the Mk53 Nulka decoy launching system; the Surface Electron Warfare Improvement Program (SEWIP) Block 2 program with SLQ-32(V)6; and a slew of undersea warfare tools such as the AN/SLQ-61 light weight tow, AN/SQS-62 variable depth sonar and AN/SQQ-89F undersea warfare/anti-submarine warfare combat system. It also requires use of the MK 110 57mm gun with the Advanced Low Cost Munition Ordnance (ALaMO) projectile being developed for the LCS and frigate.

Other required weapon systems would promote commonality with larger ships in the fleet, such as the Enterprise Air Surveillance Radar (EASR), a larger variant of which will go on future Ford-class aircraft carriers and amphibious assault ships...

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