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RE: The Good The Bad & The Indifferent - 7/20/2017 4:48:24 PM   
Canoerebel


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Status: offline 		I'm mostly targeting manpower and resources. The engine factory damage was due to manpower attacks resulting in fires.

Later on, I'll probably specifically target aircraft factories on occasion along with (maybe) engines now and then.

But manpower will be the go-to target most of the time.

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RE: The Good The Bad & The Indifferent - 7/20/2017 4:54:17 PM   
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Status: offline 		Here's a screen shot on 33rd Div., battered during its withdrawal to Amoy but recovering nicely.




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RE: The Good The Bad & The Indifferent - 7/20/2017 6:39:11 PM   
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I'm mostly targeting manpower and resources. The engine factory damage was due to manpower attacks resulting in fires.

Later on, I'll probably specifically target aircraft factories on occasion along with (maybe) engines now and then.

But manpower will be the go-to target most of the time.



Thanks.

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RE: The Good The Bad & The Indifferent - 7/20/2017 8:06:16 PM   
Canoerebel


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Status: offline 		Usually when disaster strikes it's unexpected.

So I gave some thought to the possibility that not all of KB North was deployed to the Aluetians. What if John had a carrier divisions still in the Home Islands or some point to the south?

If so it would be in a position to strike at Half Death Star before HDS could rendezvous with Death Star. I'm nearly certain that any such carrier division would be considerably smaller than HDS so that the biggest threat would be a combined strike by enemy carrier-based and land-based air.

While I deem that unlikely, I took a look at my units to see if I ought to change orders. Given their current positions I concluded it's best to proceed.

HDS will continue steaming west at about 5-6 hexes per day, passing Truk to the north. DS will steam east to effect a rendezvous, probably between Ulithi and Guam.

I think there will be two days of exposure. After that, the two Allied carrier groups will be in such proximity that there should be no risk from enemy naval or land air.

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RE: The Good The Bad & The Indifferent - 7/20/2017 8:49:37 PM   
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think there will be two days of exposure. After that, the two Allied carrier groups will be in such proximity that there should be no risk from enemy naval or land air.



What DLs are you DSs showing?

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RE: The Good The Bad & The Indifferent - 7/20/2017 9:04:20 PM   
Canoerebel


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John's nav search picked up Half Death Star near Eniwetok yesterday. He lost them today if detection levels are accurate.

I have subs arrayed through CenPac and a line of picket YMS from west of Wake all the way up to the far reaches NW of Midway. If he moves carriers south I ought to pick them up. I really don't think he will.

But disasters usually happen unexpectedly, right?

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RE: The Good The Bad & The Indifferent - 7/20/2017 9:05:22 PM   
Canoerebel


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Status: offline 		He does have detection on Death Star. Always. That's good, for DS is supposed to be deterring right now.

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RE: The Good The Bad & The Indifferent - 7/20/2017 9:10:53 PM   
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But disasters usually happen unexpectedly, right?



Fate can be Ugly




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RE: The Good The Bad & The Indifferent - 7/21/2017 4:19:13 PM   
Canoerebel


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Status: offline 		John's "body language" doesn't suggest a big attack coming.

If he was about to fall on my carriers like a thunderbolt, he'd be flipping turns, to the extent his schedule permitted. He'd be checking in with me to find out when I'm available and to let me know when he's available. He'd be posting frequently to his AAR. He wouldn't be able to help himself.

Instead he didn't send a promised turn yesterday; he hasn't communicated for the past 24 hours although he's been on the forum three or four times; and he's posting everywhere except his AAR.

He could manipulate those things to give a false impression; but he isn't. He's not coming.

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RE: The Good The Bad & The Indifferent - 7/21/2017 4:30:41 PM   
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RE: The Good The Bad & The Indifferent - 7/21/2017 4:32:06 PM   
Canoerebel


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Status: offline 		Yeah, I know. That's factored into the equation. He and I have been talking a lot.

He's not coming.

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RE: The Good The Bad & The Indifferent - 7/21/2017 10:20:54 PM   
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He's not coming.

This is where FOW is fun. You are just trying to sneak some ships through a hole in the fence and bring some empties back to safety. An opponent might not read this as innocently. He might get a blip of detection on a bunch of carriers and see another bunch on the fringe and read this as being baited into an ambush or some offensive activity. Or not

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RE: The Good The Bad & The Indifferent - 7/22/2017 12:14:19 AM   
Canoerebel


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Status: offline 		It sure makes it fun. This logistics operation is about as exciting as a carrier battle (for me) due to the uncertainty, the tension, and the unquantified dangers.

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RE: The Good The Bad & The Indifferent - 7/22/2017 12:15:36 AM   
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DS & Half DS: On the move in good order.




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RE: The Good The Bad & The Indifferent - 7/22/2017 1:37:47 AM   
Canoerebel


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Peep Show II: Progress at Karenko; still no massive IJ reaction to Death Star's absence. But I'll feel better when the window closes in a week or so.





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RE: The Good The Bad & The Indifferent - 7/22/2017 6:18:58 PM   
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Death Star and Half Death Star: Several enemy LBA strikes from Truk, with a Judy planting one bomb on CVE Lunga Point, doing modest damage that may not slow the TF noticeably. But if John's ever going to try massed kamikaze and night attacks, this will be the night. Tomorrow, DS and HDS will draw close together (hopefully two or three hexes). Day after tomorrow, the two will merge and begin making for Luzon.






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RE: The Good The Bad & The Indifferent - 7/22/2017 6:30:40 PM   
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Peep Show II: Karenko falls to the Allies and the enemy has yet to molest the Allied troops in China.




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RE: The Good The Bad & The Indifferent - 7/23/2017 1:06:59 AM   
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Death Star and Half Death Star basically unite in the western Pacific Ocean. This results in target confusion for enemy strikes, resulting in a minor turkey shoot for the Allies. No hits scored by the enemy.

Where are the night bombers? Where are the kamikazes? If figured John would really load things up but this was more halfhearted.

Me and my boys heading out to see Dunkirk now, so that's all I can post. But that was by far the most significant development of the day.




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RE: The Good The Bad & The Indifferent - 7/23/2017 1:21:05 AM   
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RE: The Good The Bad & The Indifferent - 7/23/2017 4:06:16 AM   
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Status: offline 		I don't know if you already did it, but shock attacking at Karenko in mountain terrain could be bloody for you (if the enemy has any AV left). I use DA in mountains unless the enemy is a tiny fragment. Let us know how it turns out, please.

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RE: The Good The Bad & The Indifferent - 7/23/2017 4:31:46 AM   
Canoerebel


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Some of the other news from the turn, now that I'm back from Dunkirk.

Formosa: At Karenko, 2nd Marine Div. tried a shock attack. It came off at 1:1 and did little damage to either side, though the Marines have some elevated fatigue now. I figured it was worth a try because the hex is way overstacked and I need to pull a unit out. So 2nd Marine Div. will depart, leaving reduction of the base to 5th Marine Div. and 9th Aus. Div. They'll only deliberate attack.

Luzon: Japanese resistance at Bataan collapses and the last two units evaporate. Luzon is a Japanese free zone.

KB South: The two carrier divisions left Koepang and are up near Makassar.

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RE: The Good The Bad & The Indifferent - 7/23/2017 10:54:20 AM   
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ORIGINAL: Canoerebel

10/1/44

Death Star and Half Death Star basically unite in the western Pacific Ocean. This results in target confusion for enemy strikes, resulting in a minor turkey shoot for the Allies. No hits scored by the enemy.

Where are the night bombers? Where are the kamikazes? If figured John would really load things up but this was more halfhearted.

Me and my boys heading out to see Dunkirk now, so that's all I can post. But that was by far the most significant development of the day.




Wow, just noticed the search plane losses. Dangerous job doing recon for the empire

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RE: The Good The Bad & The Indifferent - 7/23/2017 4:53:40 PM   
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Status: offline 		Dunkirk is pretty tense. We saw it yesterday and overall a good movie with beautiful aerial shots. CR, what did you think?

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RE: The Good The Bad & The Indifferent - 7/23/2017 7:04:40 PM   
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Status: offline 		I was disappointed. I'd give it a 5 out of 10 or 4 out of 10. Based upon reviews and other comments, I was expecting a 9 out of 10 or higher. The filming was good, the actors were good, the music was good. The storytelling seemed disjointed, uninteresting, and unable to convey the massive scale of Dunkirk and why it was so important. Instead it was a few implausible vignettes cobbled together in uninspired fashion.

You know what? The movie needed to begin with five minutes of historic B&W footage of the German blitzkrieg into France and the Low Countries - tanks and artillery on the rampage; paratroops, Luftwaffe raising cain to give a sense of the franticness and power of the German war machine and how it was rolling forward and threatened to destroy a 400k army. Instead you never see any Germans except an occasional isolated plane. (And that could have been done effectively but it wasn't.)

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RE: The Good The Bad & The Indifferent - 7/23/2017 7:43:32 PM   
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Western Pacific: Death Star and Half Death Star merge and begin moving towards Manila.

Peep Show II: Allied 4EB hit Nagasaki manpower with modest effect. 3:1 attack at Karenko does more damage to the Japanese, but it's gonna take awhile to reduce that isolated garrison.

What next: In a week or less, a new army plus bountiful supply will reach Manila. Death Star will have been augmented by 600 aircraft. And the Allies will be ready to roll forward and really prosecute the war from the positions of advantage obtained over the past few months.

Allied carrier strength was just at it's most dispersed of the past two years. I had 25 carriers at Maninla, fifteen CVEs at sea escorting transports, 20 with Death Star and 20 with Half Death Star....and two of those moved within proximity of some of John's biggest island airfields. That was probably his last best chance at ganging up on Allied carriers. The rendezvous of DS and HDS gotta kinda nerve wracking. I don't expect to do anything like that again.




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RE: The Good The Bad & The Indifferent - 7/24/2017 2:13:40 PM   
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DS, KB South, DEI: DS is moving in good order to Luzon. KB South is refueling at Balikpapan.




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RE: The Good The Bad & The Indifferent - 7/24/2017 2:31:14 PM   
Canoerebel


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The Heart of the Matter: With DS, reinforcements and supply now just five days out, preparations are beginning for the next series of operations.

I'll be focusing on the coastal China region, both to ramp up 4EB operations from Formosa and to proceed with the taking of key bases that will permit strategic bombing deeper into Japan.

So Formosa/China will be the center of activity for the next month. I'll have about 70 carriers, lots of big combat TFs able to replenish at Formosa, and lots of units highly prepped with plenty of good assault shipping.

The war is about to enter a new phase.






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RE: The Good The Bad & The Indifferent - 7/24/2017 5:24:40 PM   
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Status: offline 		Out of interest, and apologies if you have already mentioned this but what altitude are you flying your night bombers over Japan at?

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RE: The Good The Bad & The Indifferent - 7/24/2017 5:34:47 PM   
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RE: The Good The Bad & The Indifferent - 7/24/2017 8:47:14 PM   
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Status: offline 		Do not be "common" with your altitudes. If you go in at 10, 000 ft a few times John will stack his night fighters at that altitude. If NF are close to your altitude they are much more effective. Keep changing altitude so your opponent can't guess. One night at 15k the next night at 3k. Switch targets, switch altitudes, hit manpower, make fires. Get the B-24s into the game. Much lower service rating. Keep em guessing

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