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RE: Pat vs Ronnie GW AAR - 7/22/2017 3:49:04 PM   
rkr1958


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RE: Pat vs Ronnie GW AAR - 7/23/2017 3:54:30 AM   
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Turn 20. Nov/Dec 1942. Allied #7. USSR, Europe.

With the long break that Pat and I have had from this game I had forgotten how dire the situation was for the Soviet Union.



Frankly, this game looks hopeless for the Allies.


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RE: Pat vs Ronnie GW AAR - 7/23/2017 4:50:17 AM   
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Turn 20. Nov/Dec 1942. Allied #7. USSR, Europe.

With the long break that Pat and I have had from this game I had forgotten how dire the situation was for the Soviet Union.



Frankly, this game looks hopeless for the Allies.

Interesting. I am coming back to it and see how fragile the axis look - stretched to the breaking point. :-)

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RE: Pat vs Ronnie GW AAR - 7/23/2017 4:54:39 AM   
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Actions: Japan naval, GE land, Italy combined.
Japan moves to CA (one carrying a GE Mar division to the E. Med). The Japanese move a number of units around, including a CP to the Mariana's to put Truk back in supply.
The image below shows the potential naval combats and the search results through round 1 if I initiated combat.

Note the following reactions that I made for you.
In the The Marshall's, I reacted out your Mustang stationed on Midway to the 0-box.
In the Central Pacific, the Dauntless stationed on Midway covered the 0-box.







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RE: Pat vs Ronnie GW AAR - 7/23/2017 4:56:19 AM   
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Status: offline 		Polynesia naval combat. I only engaged the 0-box. Made it a sub combat and destroyed both CP with the 7 SP. I stayed, but did not commit the subs for round 2.





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RE: Pat vs Ronnie GW AAR - 7/23/2017 5:02:05 AM   
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Status: offline 		Marianas naval combat. I engaged both boxes with 4 SP. Made it a naval air, and used surprise to increase my A-A 2 columns.
Lost my lead bomber on your first roll (JP choice). On the return fire, you had the choice of aborting your fighter or bomber, I chose your bomber for you and send it back to Kwajalein. In the second round, I had you abort one of my bombers (it was your choice) and then I shot down the fighter. Good second D damage control resulted in only damaging the CA.




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RE: Pat vs Ronnie GW AAR - 7/23/2017 5:03:11 AM   
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Status: offline 		The allies have the choice of initiating searches in the two zones shown below. Will you?





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RE: Pat vs Ronnie GW AAR - 7/23/2017 3:59:55 PM   
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1. Yes, the RN will make a desperate play and attempt to initiate combat there. Their one and only objective is to isolate and sink the Italian CP in the 0-box. The RN will stay and continue with this objective until search rolls fail or combat ends. If their objective is met, the RN will flee through the Red Sea to the safety of the port in Aden.

Bismark Sea.
2. Yes, the USN will attempt to initiate combat. Their objective is to destroy, damage or abort the IJN transport with marine corps. After that they will assume the best defensive posture available that keeps them in the area. USN forces will stay for the duration. Return any aborted planes to the most forward bases(s) that remain in supply.

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RE: Pat vs Ronnie GW AAR - 7/23/2017 8:43:59 PM   
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Status: offline 		In the East Med. The Italians reacted out a fighter to the 0-box. Search rolls of 4/5 resulted in no combat.
In the Bismarck Sea I did not commit the US sub for round 1 nor react out any JP aircraft. The search rolls were 9/3 and the allies found with 6 SP. Thinking ahead I foresaw a need of 2 SP to lower AA to ne and 2 SP to raise the result from an A to a D. That left 2 SP to use in A-A, so I raised your attack 1 level. (+2).
Result shown below. The JP got to choose what to abort and aborted your bomber to Rabaul. You got the choice of aborting the NAV or the front fighter. I had the JP zero aborted (went to Manila area). Combat ended for round 1.
IN round 2 I committed the US subs since there were no A-S factors with any of the US fighters, but it was for nought with search rolls of 10/9.




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RE: Pat vs Ronnie GW AAR - 7/23/2017 8:53:33 PM   
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RE: Pat vs Ronnie GW AAR - 7/25/2017 10:42:32 PM   
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One land attack - On Rostov.
I did use Manstein for HQ support. GE flying one bomber and one fighter.
Russians can fly a bomber and a fighter as well. Will you?




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RE: Pat vs Ronnie GW AAR - 7/26/2017 2:52:03 AM   
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Status: offline 		Yes, the bomber and fighter will fly. Objective is (1) get USSR bomber through and (2) shot down or abort German bomber.

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RE: Pat vs Ronnie GW AAR - 7/26/2017 5:19:30 AM   
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Status: offline 		In the A-A over Rostov, both bombers were aborted.

In the land combat I had both sides lead with winterized units. The fractional missed, but the attack roll more than made up for it.

The first time through, I had an extra click in selecting the destroyed units and the game managed to not destroy the division, so when I went to advance after combat I was not allowed to enter the hex. Redid it taking care to destroy the units without any extraneous clicks and then it worked. I will see if I can replicate tomorrow and place a bug report on the Tech Support Forum.

I will finish the turn tomorrow and get the game file to you in my early afternoon.





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RE: Pat vs Ronnie GW AAR - 7/26/2017 8:07:16 PM   
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Status: offline 		ND42 i9 done, turn continues, weather stays poor, but not as bad as it could be.
Note, JP moved a CA and amph to Manila and then reorganized them with a couple of transports in the China Sea.




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RE: Pat vs Ronnie GW AAR - 7/29/2017 12:23:16 AM   
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RE: Pat vs Ronnie GW AAR - 7/29/2017 1:02:41 AM   
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RE: Pat vs Ronnie GW AAR - 7/29/2017 1:05:41 AM   
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Status: offline 		Turn 20. Nov/Dec 1940. Allied #11. RN Naval Moves (Two, combine).

1. A lone CP moves from Victoria, Seychelles into the Arabian Sea (adjacent to port). As this CP is headed for the Eastern Med to attempt to reestablish supply to the CW forces there the IJN attempts to intercept using their fighter for the attempt. The attempt fails and the CP continues unmolested to the East Med.

2. The RN BB Warspite and CA Effingham, which are now back in supply, sortie from Alexander to the 3-box of the East Med.




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RE: Pat vs Ronnie GW AAR - 7/29/2017 1:12:59 AM   
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Status: offline 		Turn 20. Nov/Dec 1942. Allied #11. USN Naval Moves 1 & 2 of 3 (Combine).

1. The BB Maryland moves form Pearl to the 1-box of the Marshalls.

2. The BB Washington also moves from Pearl to the Marshalls but goes to the 4-box to met up with a fighter and naval air unit flown out from Pearl during the naval air phase.




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RE: Pat vs Ronnie GW AAR - 7/29/2017 1:18:09 AM   
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Status: offline 		Turn 20. Nov/Dec 1942. Allied #11. USN, Naval Move 3 of 3.

The third and last USN naval move is a massive carrier task force out of Pearl headed for the Marianas. But first it must brave the IJN subs operating in Marshalls.

Do you wish to attempt an intercept?




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RE: Pat vs Ronnie GW AAR - 7/29/2017 1:37:08 AM   
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Turn 20. Nov/Dec 1942. Allied #11. USN, Naval Move 3 of 3.

The third and last USN naval move is a massive carrier task force out of Pearl headed for the Marianas. But first it must brave the IJN subs operating in Marshalls.

Do you wish to attempt an intercept?

Yes, Please attempt the intercept

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RE: Pat vs Ronnie GW AAR - 7/29/2017 2:26:42 AM   
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Turn 20. Nov/Dec 1942. Allied #11. USN, Naval Move 3 of 3.

The third and last USN naval move is a massive carrier task force out of Pearl headed for the Marianas. But first it must brave the IJN subs operating in Marshalls.

Do you wish to attempt an intercept?

Yes, Please attempt the intercept
The attempt fails.




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RE: Pat vs Ronnie GW AAR - 7/29/2017 2:34:18 AM   
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Status: offline 		Turn 20. Nov/Dec 1942. Allied #11. Contested Sea Area. Polynesia.

No combat attempted by the USN and it's not possible for the IJN to initiate in this sea area.




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RE: Pat vs Ronnie GW AAR - 7/29/2017 2:37:38 AM   
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Status: offline 		Turn 20. Nov/Dec 1942. Allied #11. Contested Sea Areas. The Marshalls.

The USN decides NOT to attempt to initiate combat; however, the IJN submarine unit that failed the intercept attempt can.

Do you wish to attempt to initiate combat? If so, what are your orders if contact is made?




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RE: Pat vs Ronnie GW AAR - 7/29/2017 2:40:08 AM   
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Status: offline 		Turn 20. Nov/Dec 1942. Allied #11. Contested Sea Areas. Tasman Sea. No Combat.

The USN decides not to attempt to initiate combat and the IJN is unable try.




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RE: Pat vs Ronnie GW AAR - 7/29/2017 2:41:28 AM   
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Status: offline 		Turn 20. Nov/Dec 1942. Allied #11. Contested Sea Areas. The Solomons. No Combat.

The USN decides not to attempt to initiate combat and the IJN is unable try.




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RE: Pat vs Ronnie GW AAR - 7/29/2017 2:42:31 AM   
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Status: offline 		Turn 20. Nov/Dec 1942. Allied #11. Contested Sea Areas. Central Pacific. No Combat.

The USN decides not to attempt to initiate combat and the IJN is unable try.




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RE: Pat vs Ronnie GW AAR - 7/29/2017 2:46:52 AM   
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Status: offline 		Turn 20. Nov/Dec 1942. Allied #11. Contested Sea Areas. Bismarck Sea. No Combat.

The USN decides not to attempt to initiate combat and the IJN is unable try.




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RE: Pat vs Ronnie GW AAR - 7/29/2017 2:49:18 AM   
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Status: offline 		Turn 20. Nov/Dec 1942. Allied #11. Contested Sea Areas. West Indian Ocean. No Combat.

The RN decides not to attempt to initiate combat and the IJN is unable try.




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RE: Pat vs Ronnie GW AAR - 7/29/2017 2:50:23 AM   
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The RN decides not to attempt to initiate combat and the IJN is unable try.




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RE: Pat vs Ronnie GW AAR - 7/29/2017 2:53:41 AM   
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Status: offline 		Turn 20. Nov/Dec 1942. Allied #11. Contested Sea Areas. East Med.

The RN will not to attempt to initiate combat in the East Med. However, the Italians can if they wish. The only additional air unit that the CW has available that could react is a fighter based on the coast in Egypt.

Do the Italians wish to attempt to initiate combat? If so, what are their orders if contact is made?





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