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RE: 1000 mile war - liberating the Aleutians - 8/1/2017 9:15:34 PM   
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Day 51 - Jun 04

This will be the fifth day since we were alerted to the possibility of an imminent Japanese counterattack. Yet nothing has happened! The Bettys raid Attu Island approximately every alternate day, but except for seemingly spurious sighting reports, as noted yesterday, we've seen nothing to deter our efforts or to reinforce our suspicion of a major enemy effort.

Our 2xCA TF, on its way to link with CVE Nassau, went right by the suspected enemy TF of yesterday and saw nothing. So we will assume that confirms there's nothing there.

However, two sighting reports today would seem to add credence to each other: a Seagull from CL Richmond reported 8 unidentified enemy ships moving west at 20 knots, and a Catalina made a report narby of six ships also moving west at 11 knots. Despite being authorised to do so, the CL TF Commander made no efforts to intercept the sighting.

We make a series of air raids against Kiska with good results. We lose 2 Mitchells damaged.

The enemy Bettys attempt to attack Attu but are intercepted by Warhawks based at the tiny airstrip there as well as Lightnings providing LRCAP from Adak.

At Kiska we split the invasion TF so that empty APAs can return to Adak for reuse. Meanwhile one xAK continues unloading.




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RE: 1000 mile war - liberating the Aleutians - 8/1/2017 9:49:30 PM   
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Day 51 - Jun 04

Ground operations on Kiska : Unloading of the Canadian 13th Infantry Brigade continues across the beach, and the enemy hurl shells all day, 250 shells altogether, causing 140 casualties. Neither the Freighter nor the two escorts are hit.

The Japanese defenders bombard our beachhead again to some effect, and then we make another deliberate attack. We make progress but again it costs blood.




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RE: 1000 mile war - liberating the Aleutians - 8/2/2017 12:49:31 AM   
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Reports of 6 or 8 enemy ships where none are found usually indicate a sub. I don't know how any naval search crewman could mistake a sub for a number of ships - but maybe the killer whales follow the killer sharks around!

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RE: 1000 mile war - liberating the Aleutians - 8/2/2017 6:53:03 AM   
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Hi BBf

My thoughts exactly!

However, this time there was something there, as you will shortly discover!

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RE: 1000 mile war - liberating the Aleutians - 8/2/2017 10:27:12 AM   
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Day 52 - Jun 05

A very eventful day!

Bad weather prohibits any further air raids against Kiska, but further west our friends, the Bettys, make an appearance attacking Attu. Our CAP and LRCAP from Adak repulses them successfully.

Reinforcements for Kiska begin loading: Combat Engineers at Adak and the 1st Special Service Force at Dutch Harbor. The 2xCA TF takes up station just 40NM SE of CVE Nassau, and the 2xBB TF leaves Dutch Harbor to take up position a 80NM SE of our only Carrier.

On the basis that the correlated sightings of enemy ships south of Attu were genuine, 2xDD near Kiska are sent on a sweep of the area, while 2xCL 1xDD remain in position with their Scouts out where the 2xDD will join up. A nearby Sub is also ordered to the same sector.

And we get a result! We intercept a lone Japanese Freighter which proves easy meat. She sinks. We take no hits.

On Kiska, unloading continues but now casualties are light (just 45 troops injured despite nearly 200 shells being fired in defence) and our beachhead experiences another bombardment but we continue our offensive. The enemy are greatly degraded and unable to prevent us taking Kiska base. The rag-tag remnants of the defending force does not disintegrate however and remains a threat.




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RE: 1000 mile war - liberating the Aleutians - 8/2/2017 1:42:02 PM   
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Great work! You must have a Major Victory result on the Intel screen now!

Looks like the AI has been paralysed by your early conquest of Attu and sinking of the merchant ships it needed to conduct amphib and supply operations. I don't think it has a good raiding script for the IJN forces at PJ or you should have seen them by now.

Eight days left?

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RE: 1000 mile war - liberating the Aleutians - 8/3/2017 3:12:55 PM   
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Thanks, BBf.

Indeed it is showing as a Major Victory - for the moment! In game terms the margin is small. If I lose one Freighter or worse a Capital Ship then it would tip the balance back to a Minor Victory.

I would agree that the AI seems to have aborted or at least cut-back its operation, if in fact there ever was one ongoing! However, the lone Freighter that we have just sunk could have been supported by bigger units at some point. They could still be around because the weather has not been good for detection.

Whether the Freighter had run supplies in to Kiska earlier, or whether it gave up on its attempt, I just don't know.

Yes, 8 days left to avoid snatching defeat from the jaws of victory!

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RE: 1000 mile war - liberating the Aleutians - 8/3/2017 4:09:45 PM   
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Day 53 - Jun 06

A quiet night sees unloading at Kiska continue unopposed at last! Even during daylight our approach to the beach is ignored and we have no casualties even from accidents.

Our aerial pounding of the Kiska defenders continues relentlessly. We make 45 Bomber sorties in a rainstorm causing significant casualties to the enemy while having 2xMitchells and 4xVenturas damaged by flak (raid altitude 11-14k ft).

The Bettys make another attempt to raid Attu but are repulsed by Warhawks and Lightnings (CAP and LRCAP from Adak). We claim just 1 kill from seven Bettys.

Naval operations continue on a cautious approach; the CVE and two Battlegroups remain handy NE of Kiska, exposure of Freighters and Transports is minimised by basing these ships in relative security at Adak. Kiska reinforcements continue to load up at Adak and Dutch Harbor. The 2xCL 4xDD TF will remain on station patrolling west of Attu both as a bait and a screen.




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RE: 1000 mile war - liberating the Aleutians - 8/3/2017 4:39:51 PM   
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Day 53 - Jun 06

Ground Operations on Kiska.

Despite that our ground forces being significantly fatigued we make another deliberate attack on the basis that the original garrison must be on their last legs. The enemy are so low on supplies that there is not even a counterbombardment.

The attack goes well, our losses are insignificant and we destroy 3 enemy units leaving what must be very battered remnants of just 2 more units to continue what opposition they can tomorrow.




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RE: 1000 mile war - liberating the Aleutians - 8/3/2017 4:44:19 PM   
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You already know that you get VPs for increasing base development. Because there are so few days left, now is the time to assess what you can finish in the remaining time and what will never make the next level. You don't need any more forts. Turn off any port or AF building that is never going to increase to next level. Concentrate every engineer on finishing what you can with preference for AFs which score twice as many points as a port increase.

That should increase your VP margin a bit.

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RE: 1000 mile war - liberating the Aleutians - 8/3/2017 4:46:21 PM   
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Day 54 - Jun 07

Planning for today's operations it transpires that all Japanese forces on Kiska have been eliminated. (The red enemy Infantry symbol has gone!)

So it seems we have achieved our objectives. Now to consolidate and prevent any counter or pointless losses.




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RE: 1000 mile war - liberating the Aleutians - 8/3/2017 10:22:44 PM   
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Thanks again, BBF.

Yes, I agree I need to eke out a few more game points that way. I think it is already underway but will check.

However a sudden Japanese coup by sinking a single ship would probably still swing it one victory level their way!

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RE: 1000 mile war - liberating the Aleutians - 8/4/2017 8:38:40 AM   
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The Action. What action?

Naval operations progress as planned. The Engineers and 1st SSF are en route as reinforcements to Kiska whose recent conquerors find themselves severely short of supplies after several days of hard combat. Consequently, the supply ships originally destined for Attu and 'sheltering' at Adak are sent to Kiska with emergency supplies.

We suspend all air operations except Recon which delivers a few minor scares. Reports of enemy ships near Dutch Harbor are commonplace and unlikely to be true. It's those whales again! We dismiss (hopefully not at our peril!) reports of enemy ships near Kiska, but there seems some possibility the report of 4 enemy vessels further north approaching our CVE and Battlegroups may be correct. We will be prepared.

I'll let the illustration tell the whole story.




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RE: 1000 mile war - liberating the Aleutians - 8/4/2017 9:10:12 AM   
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Day 55 - Jun 08

Plans as displayed.

Result: nothing!

The enemy continue for the most part to maintain radio silence. No sign of the Bettys for the second day in succession.




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RE: 1000 mile war - liberating the Aleutians - 8/4/2017 10:05:29 AM   
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Day 56 - Jun 09

Alert status is suspended and the CVE and CAs retire eastwards 400 NM. The BBs return to Dutch Harbor and the CLs rebase at Adak which has been vastly improved over the last few weeks.




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RE: 1000 mile war - liberating the Aleutians - 8/4/2017 10:06:50 AM   
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Day 56 - Jun 09

There's no interference at sea.

The Bettys make another unsuccessful attack against Attu.




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RE: 1000 mile war - liberating the Aleutians - 8/4/2017 10:19:46 AM   
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Day 57 - Jun 10

Nothing to report.

Day 58 - Jun 11

Situation calm and unhindered.




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RE: 1000 mile war - liberating the Aleutians - 8/4/2017 10:34:31 AM   
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Twelve Bettys attack Attu without success. Our CAP shoots down four for no loss.

Otherwise, it's a quiet day, quite routine; 30x Catalinas operating Naval Search in light cloud over a 90 degree arc westwards; CAP of Warhawks at Attu and now Kiska also, plus, of course minor CAP back at Adak and Dutch Harbor, and sub patrols west of Attu.

Attu airfield is improved (level 2), and construction efforts continue elsewhere.

It looks like we have the Aleutians to ourselves except for the repeated flea bites from Paramushiro-jima!

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RE: 1000 mile war - liberating the Aleutians - 8/4/2017 5:12:30 PM   
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Day 59 - Jun 12

All units begin to rebase at their intended 'resting' post-operation positions as shown.

No response from any enemy unit except for Recon over Attu Island.






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RE: 1000 mile war - liberating the Aleutians - 8/4/2017 7:59:08 PM   
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Day 60 - Jun 13

Ten Bettys attack Attu and are repulsed losing 3 of their number without loss to ourselves.

Otherwise the operation winds down without further incident.

Here's the final position:-




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RE: 1000 mile war - liberating the Aleutians - 8/4/2017 9:09:54 PM   
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The Result - Game 2

Once again I'd like to thank the scenario designer and all those correspondents who offered suggestions and encouragement. I've certainly learnt a lot! It won't be the Grand Campaign next but certainly something bigger than this one.

So, the end result was a DECISIVE ALLIED VICTORY.

We lost the war in the air and aborted our bombing campaign early on but on balance aircraft losses were equal because of enemy losses due to naval bombardment and capture of their bases.

On land enemy units were so severely degraded by naval, and later by aerial bombardment, and so short of supply due to naval interception of enemy freighters, so that they had little fight left by the time our invasion forces attacked.

At sea, an aggressive campaign to isolate the target bases and intercept supply convoys, well supported by air cover, was decisive. The routing of supplies and invasion forces through areas we could cover with land-based or carrier-based aircraft, as well as the provision of adequate escorts limited our losses to nil. Undoubtedly we were lucky not to lose a transport or freighter to shellfire or sub attack. APA Harris could so easily have been lost but made it back to base and even continued to operate thereafter with significant damage.

It must be said that the AI did not seem to be aggressive enough or make the best use of its resources. To beat a human opponent playing the Japanese would be extremely difficult in my opinion.

Here's the full statistics for those of you who were interested.

Thanks for reading.




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RE: 1000 mile war - liberating the Aleutians - 8/4/2017 11:06:39 PM   
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Well done! You learn fast and you create good operational plans.

You could try the Guadalcanal Scenario next. It is similar in nature but with more invasion points for both sides, more aircraft and more naval action.

I hope you can continue your very well illustrated AARs. Easy for the reader to follow and instructive for others learning the game!

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RE: 1000 mile war - liberating the Aleutians - 8/5/2017 12:43:44 AM   
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Hey Energisteron,

I also have been following your well-illustrated AAR, and I must echo BBFs sentiments. The Aleutians campaign is not an easy one...due to limited units and timetable, but you pushed through with a sound plan and some very good play. Well done!

Also, I would like to pile onto one of BBF's many pieces of sage advice:

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You already know that you get VPs for increasing base development. Because there are so few days left, now is the time to assess what you can finish in the remaining time and what will never make the next level. You don't need any more forts. Turn off any port or AF building that is never going to increase to next level. Concentrate every engineer on finishing what you can with preference for AFs which score twice as many points as a port increase.

That should increase your VP margin a bit.


In addition to base developments, another factor in Base VP's is supply. In my game, I had a few unexplained drops in VP's and was somewhat perplexed. That was until a forumite showed me page 264 of the manual:



Turns out one of my large VP bases was under-supplied (it only had about 50% of its requirement due to an increased demand due to an influx of ground and air units the previous turn), so I was only receiving 50% of its VPs. As if supply wasn't important enough. haha.

Once again, well done! I look forward to your future AAR's.


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RE: 1000 mile war - liberating the Aleutians - 8/6/2017 7:00:00 AM   
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Congratulations Energisteron that is an impressive achievement and much improved over your first game.

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It must be said that the AI did not seem to be aggressive enough or make the best use of its resources. To beat a human opponent playing the Japanese would be extremely difficult in my opinion.


I agree, the Japanese AI seems to employ most of its assets defensively which fits the historical course of events.

I suggest you now consider playing as the Japanese.
See what they had available, see if you can use their resources to better effect (e.g. sink the allies limited transport capacity and some of the major fleet units), and see if you can keep control of the bases.

You could even contemplate a counter-attack and try to push the allies out of Adak.

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RE: 1000 mile war - liberating the Aleutians - 8/6/2017 10:33:02 AM   
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Hi BBFanboy

Thank you.

I think my plans were sound throughout this game although again I lost heavily air-to-air. However, this time I did glance at the Japanese final position screen and was shocked at what I saw! I believe a coordinated plan using the assets they had available by the end would cause havoc with a 'routine' reoccupation of the Aleutians by the Allies. So, I may well play the other side next time, possibly giving the Allies a slight advantage.

In all other Pacific theatre games I've played I've always enjoyed the Coral Sea and Guadalcanal campaigns and so certainly I'll try those soon. Aleutians as Japanese though next.

And, yes, not wishing to bore the community to death, I will continue an AAR here but suspect since I'll be on the defensive, certainly at first, that I'll probably illustrate only every 3 turns or so.

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RE: 1000 mile war - liberating the Aleutians - 8/6/2017 10:35:34 AM   
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Hi Schlussel

Thank you. I am pleased you found my AAR entertaining.

That's good advice about bases and their scoring values. Just the sort of detail that can be so easily overlooked.

It seems I am likely to carry on with the same campaign from the Japanese point of view.

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RE: 1000 mile war - liberating the Aleutians - 8/6/2017 10:40:20 AM   
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Hi Deathifier

Yes, it would definitely agree that the Japanese units could have been better utilised. I haven't looked yet at when they arrive though. It's possible they arrive too late to do more than a swift naval counterattack to surprise Allied shipping.

As you can see from above I will be doing the Japanese side next and reporting it here.

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RE: 1000 mile war - liberating the Aleutians - 8/6/2017 11:29:39 AM   
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quote:

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Yes, it would definitely agree that the Japanese units could have been better utilised. I haven't looked yet at when they arrive though. It's possible they arrive too late to do more than a swift naval counterattack to surprise Allied shipping.

As you can see from above I will be doing the Japanese side next and reporting it here.


They do arrive in time to attempt something outside the normal course of history and the challenge is more in surviving without depleting your resources whilst preparing for the probably small opportunity that presents itself towards the end of the scenario if you do want to try a counter-attack and not just sink ships.

I look forward to seeing how it unfolds.

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RE: 1000 mile war - liberating the Aleutians - 8/7/2017 12:01:24 AM   
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Very entertaining and well documented AAR, I look forward to your next scenario, possibly PBEM?

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RE: 1000 mile war - liberating the Aleutians - 8/7/2017 2:04:08 PM   
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Thank you, Bif1961.

I'm not so sure about graduating to a PBEM just yet. Although from my perspective it's all about the challenge and playing the game, it is still not much fun taking a beating just because one doesn't understand the game mechanics or user interface. I'm fine about being beaten because my tactics were useless, but not because there's 'nuances' of a game which I've not come across.

I remember a couple of examples: in its day, I really enjoyed 'Cossacks' as a simulation of 12-18th century warfare, economy building and technological development. It was a fun game with an isometric view of individual troops/ peasants which even permitted getting trained troops into squares and lines and skirmish mode etc.. I played on-line (not PBEM because it was a RTS game) and surprise surprise I discovered there were cheats (honestly children!) and game warps beyond all imagination. So, there I am with a well organised, well trained army, pikemen solid at the front and musketmen in line behind. Looked solid enough, until my opponent arrived on the battlefield with nothing but officers in phalanxes except for about 10% priests (that doubled as medics!). They were invincible, of course. Played the AI after that!

But more pertinently, the last PBEM I played was with Strategic Command:WW1. A good meaning opponent challenged me, and I accepted. We had a good game but it was so one-sided, primarily because I had not realised the advantages of the 'swap position' key. I knew it existed and did use it. Essentially it allowed a reserve unit from the rear to replace the initial assault troops and continue the attack. My opponent knew how to swap frontline units up to 3 times per hex, so faced with a 3 stack assault I could be taking 9 hits per battle. In response I was unable to make more than 4 hits per battle.

Needless to say the Germans captured Paris just in time for Christmas. We agreed at that point I needed to have a bit more training! I enjoyed it but both of us would have gained greater enjoyment if I'd been more knowledgeable and could have given a better account of myself.

As an aside, I am capable of doing some fairly stupid things. In game 1, I tried strafiing at 2000 ft and got rather too many fighters shot down. That was a mistake not a lack of knowledge of game mechanics.

Mind you, nothing beats the seeming stupidity of my opponent in a team table-top miniatures game when his pistol armed light cavalry tried a caracole 50 metres in front of my 3 gun 18-pounder artillery battery! I believe the unit was wiped out with one shot of cannister!

I suppose the equivalent in WITP(AE) would be turn a BB towards an escorted CV TF with dive-bombers and torpedo planes aboard in broad daylight!

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