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Should We Attack Greece? - 8/11/2017 3:22:53 PM   
Goodmongo

 

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Status: offline 		So what are the benefits of taking the decision to DOW Greece in October 1940? I have always decided to say yes but I'm thinking it is actually better not to get involved there. Does Yugoslavia stay neutral if you don't?
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RE: Should We Attack Greece? - 8/11/2017 4:03:22 PM   
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Status: offline 		A bit of a moral boost (provided you don't get pushed back) and 2 Italian units at a discount.

UK gets an event to coup yugo later no matter what happens.

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RE: Should We Attack Greece? - 8/11/2017 4:29:10 PM   
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Status: offline 		I decided not to in my AAR and am happy I didn't. You still will probably have to take out Yugoslavia, however.

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RE: Should We Attack Greece? - 8/11/2017 5:03:15 PM   
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Status: offline 		If you diplomacy yugo and the axis gains it by say aug or sept 40 .. then by all means go greece
the hq and a few units are vulnerable to air and mech/tank attacks
greece usually falls in 3 turns ..
IG

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RE: Should We Attack Greece? - 8/12/2017 3:19:20 AM   
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Status: offline 		Agree with IG: Axis should strike quickly to take Greece by early 41.

Greece has a pretty strong pro-Allied leaning and if the Axis doesn't attack and conquer it, Allied diplo can usually swing Greece into a DoW by 42 or 43, opening up a Balkan front

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RE: Should We Attack Greece? - 8/12/2017 4:18:55 PM   
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Status: offline 		Ignored Greece in one game and they went Allied right away. So had to take them out anyway. I usually try to leave them alone and focus on Russia, which hasn't consistently worked.

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RE: Should We Attack Greece? - 8/14/2017 8:03:29 AM   
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Status: offline 		Against the AI I found it's not worth taking Greece since it doesn't invest in diplomacy.

Against a human player it could be a thorn in your skin if you're fully committed in Russia and have to redirect forces to counter strike an invasion or Greece declaring war on the Axis due to diplomacy.

My reason not to declare war on Greece is mainly one, you have to deploy too many garrisons to prevent action by partisans, garrisons that are badly needed in Russia.

There goes my two cents.

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RE: Should We Attack Greece? - 8/14/2017 1:14:37 PM   
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Status: offline 		That`s an interesting calculation. Greece is producing 30 MPPs/turn, and needs 5 garrisons at most. No garrison costs more than 50 MPP, after 5-6 turns the garrisons are paid, the rest is profit. Makes 51o MPP/year at 17 turns/year. The earlier you invest, the better it pays off.

The forcepool of garrisons is so huge, and not every single partizanspot has to be occupied, just those near the front, cities and producing ressources.

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RE: Should We Attack Greece? - 8/14/2017 11:09:28 PM   
James Taylor

 

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Status: offline 		I always prep a group of Italians on the Yugo partisans. They gain valuable experience crushing these pitiful units and then eventually when you get the Italian heavy tanks you can easily take down the Grecians with your army group.

After that, you now have an experienced, effective Italian army group for any expeditions you wish to conduct.

Just in case you were wondering "what to do with the Italians"?



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RE: Should We Attack Greece? - 8/17/2017 2:36:09 PM   
majpalmer

 

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Status: offline 		If I plan to invade Russia in 1941 I bypass Greece. The chances of delay are not worth the rewards of a victory.

If, however, I adopt a Western strategy focused on GB,usually including Sea Lion,then I will invade Greece, because the Greeks suck up British MMPs. If you are fighting the Brits in Sussex, Egypt, and Greece, the demand for replacements will be so high that they'll either have to fold in Greece, or see all their forces hollow out.

I generally do Poland, France, Malta, and then send the air units that did the job on Malta to Albania to take out Belgrade. Then Russia. No Greece.

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