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Oil bombing hits seems to be pretty high - 10/24/2017 9:40:21 AM   
verdugo94

 

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Status: offline 		Hello,

I have been Oil bombed and the combat reports hit differed a lot with the real oil hits, be the last much more that the first. For example in this attack, 4 oil points were hitted, but in reality thei were 12 oil points




In this one 7 point in the report but in my factory were 28



Considering how expensive is to rebuil those points, aren´t they too much effective?
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RE: Oil bombing hits seems to be pretty high - 10/24/2017 11:24:15 AM   
Yaab


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Status: offline 		Just put any AA at those bases and you are golden.

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RE: Oil bombing hits seems to be pretty high - 10/24/2017 11:27:39 AM   
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Status: offline 		Bomb hits and industry lost points are not the same thing. The algorithm for lost points takes into account the effects of the actual bomb, the type of industry, and in some way never exactly disclosed, the size of the industry target being hit. In the case of Oil, fields are large and much easier to hit at night than a single HI factory building. Palembang covered many square miles for example. And Oil burns and is otherwise fragile with a lot of piping and pumps.

In these cases I saw you had roughly 100 fighters at Magwe. I went at night for that reason, but you had no night CAP. Even non-night models will disrupt aim. I went 2000 feet for accuracy, and didn't encounter AA, which also spoils aim.

The bombers I used are new, much improved models over pre-war RAF models you've been seeing. My bombers get a lot better as the war goes on.

Magwe is very difficult to protect. But if you want to try there are ways to make it much more expensive for me.

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RE: Oil bombing hits seems to be pretty high - 10/24/2017 2:55:21 PM   
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Status: offline 		A single bomb hit can cause anywhere from zero points of damage to multiple points of damage. It just depends.

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RE: Oil bombing hits seems to be pretty high - 10/24/2017 3:35:36 PM   
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Status: offline 		My experience is oil hits are always under reported on the battle report.

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RE: Oil bombing hits seems to be pretty high - 10/24/2017 6:11:38 PM   
Lokasenna


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ORIGINAL: Lowpe

My experience is oil hits are always under reported on the battle report.


OR those bombs are causing more than 1 point of damage each

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RE: Oil bombing hits seems to be pretty high - 10/24/2017 10:19:34 PM   
verdugo94

 

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Status: offline 		Thanks for your answers, sadly I had some night cap but it didn´t arrived on time and some AA. I will try to be more careful with this in the future, specially with full moon.

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RE: Oil bombing hits seems to be pretty high - 10/24/2017 11:47:09 PM   
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ORIGINAL: Bullwinkle58

Bomb hits and industry lost points are not the same thing. The algorithm for lost points takes into account the effects of the actual bomb, the type of industry, and in some way never exactly disclosed, the size of the industry target being hit. In the case of Oil, fields are large and much easier to hit at night than a single HI factory building. Palembang covered many square miles for example. And Oil burns and is otherwise fragile with a lot of piping and pumps.

In these cases I saw you had roughly 100 fighters at Magwe. I went at night for that reason, but you had no night CAP. Even non-night models will disrupt aim. I went 2000 feet for accuracy, and didn't encounter AA, which also spoils aim.

The bombers I used are new, much improved models over pre-war RAF models you've been seeing. My bombers get a lot better as the war goes on.

Magwe is very difficult to protect. But if you want to try there are ways to make it much more expensive for me.



No AAA? That is like saying,"Here I am, you can take what you want".

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RE: Oil bombing hits seems to be pretty high - 10/24/2017 11:49:15 PM   
Rusty1961

 

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Status: offline 		I had one opponent in July or August of 42 and he had Morseby stacked up with 6 Betty bombers and a level 4 field with no CAP or AAA.

55 bombers smoking on the tarmac claiming how bogus the game was. He didn't like me countering that no AAA, no CAP and 20 B17s coming in at 6,000 feet will destroy a base.

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RE: Oil bombing hits seems to be pretty high - 10/25/2017 1:33:50 AM   
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ORIGINAL: verdugo94

Thanks for your answers, sadly I had some night cap but it didn´t arrived on time and some AA. I will try to be more careful with this in the future, specially with full moon.


Usually, when my night cap doesn't arrive on time I've already fallen asleep.

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RE: Oil bombing hits seems to be pretty high - 10/25/2017 3:56:05 AM   
crsutton


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Status: offline 		Oil was about the easiest target to put out of action. It was the oil storage tanks that were vulnerable. Easy to target and the Japanese had no capacity to replace them once they were destroyed. I never really understood why the Allies did not target them more. Perhaps because they knew that they were sinking all of the Japanese tankers anyways.

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RE: Oil bombing hits seems to be pretty high - 10/25/2017 11:15:02 AM   
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ORIGINAL: verdugo94

Thanks for your answers, sadly I had some night cap but it didn´t arrived on time and some AA. I will try to be more careful with this in the future, specially with full moon.


Check the CAP's altitude. Night bombing is low level, so any high CAP is never going to see the attack. Also check the fighters' top speed against the bomber models I used. You still have a lot of Nates on duty in China.

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