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RE: THE WAR COLLEGE-Rio Bravo (A) v. El Lobo (J) - 10/16/2017 6:19:14 PM   
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The Emperor of the Rising Sun is Thinking



The Allies returned Turn 656 to El Lobo on October 11, 2017. El Lobo has not sent Turn 657.

I think the Allied landings at Takao, Formosa, Pescadores, and Amoy, China have given El Lobo a lot to think about.

At this point, I am not sure when El Lobo will return Turn 657.

Best Regards,

-Terry

< Message edited by Rio Bravo -- 10/16/2017 6:38:03 PM >


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RE: THE WAR COLLEGE-Rio Bravo (A) v. El Lobo (J) - 10/16/2017 7:10:24 PM   
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Maybe egress through South China Sea?? That might avoid the confrontation...if that's what you would prefer.



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I don't think that egressing through the South China Sea would be the best route for the Invasion Fleet to return home. It would just take longer. The problem is that El Lobo could just track down the Fleet as it will be moving slow due to the speed of the transports.

Though I would prefer to fight his carriers down the waves of time, without being encumbered by protecting transports, if El Lobo wants a sea battle now, he won't get away unscathed.

Best Regards,

-Terry


Transports often work as bomb magnets, so in a CV vs CV battle some of his strike might go for the transports and leave your CVs alone to smack him down ...
Many of the smackdowns of KB that I have seen in AARs happen when KB is busy attacking a transport force and the Allied CVs get in the first strike unhindered - shades of Midway!

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RE: THE WAR COLLEGE-Rio Bravo (A) v. El Lobo (J) - 10/17/2017 3:13:23 AM   
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ORIGINAL: BBfanboy


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ORIGINAL: Rio Bravo


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ORIGINAL: pontiouspilot

Maybe egress through South China Sea?? That might avoid the confrontation...if that's what you would prefer.



pontiouspilot-

I don't think that egressing through the South China Sea would be the best route for the Invasion Fleet to return home. It would just take longer. The problem is that El Lobo could just track down the Fleet as it will be moving slow due to the speed of the transports.

Though I would prefer to fight his carriers down the waves of time, without being encumbered by protecting transports, if El Lobo wants a sea battle now, he won't get away unscathed.

Best Regards,

-Terry


Transports often work as bomb magnets, so in a CV vs CV battle some of his strike might go for the transports and leave your CVs alone to smack him down ...
Many of the smackdowns of KB that I have seen in AARs happen when KB is busy attacking a transport force and the Allied CVs get in the first strike unhindered - shades of Midway!



BBfanboy-

That would be a sweet deal.

Best Regards,

-Terry


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RE: THE WAR COLLEGE-Rio Bravo (A) v. El Lobo (J) - 10/19/2017 5:29:47 AM   
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September 24, 1943



Highlights for Today

1.) The Allies capture Amoy, Pescadores, and Takao.
2.) Japan heavily damaged two Allied Battleships and damaged three other Allied Battleships.
3.) The Allies won the battle in the sky.
4.) Today’s combat primarily occurred at Amoy, Taichu, Pescadores, Takao, and Saipan.

Summary of Combat Losses for Today

Japan

75 aircraft destroyed and 23 aircraft damaged.
7,173 troop casualties.
1 ship damaged.


Allies

14 aircraft destroyed
759 troop casualties.
14 ships damaged.


Summary of Combat Losses by Area of Operations

Near Ishigaki (hex 90,67)

SS I-160; heavy damage.

No losses.

Saipan

11 destroyed (Ki-84a Frank).

1 destroyed (Kittyhawk IV).
1 destroyed P-40N5 Warhawk).
2 destroyed (Martlet IV).
6 destroyed (F4U-1 Corsair).



Chungking

No Japanese losses.

Numerous Manpower hits and a mere couple hundred thousand fires

Amoy

3 destroyed (Ki-84a Frank).
3,047 troop casualties.
0 ships.


0 aircraft.
303 troop casualties.
0 ships.


Pescadores

1 destroyed (B5N1 Kate).
1,990 troop casualties.
0 ships


0 aircraft.
149 casualties.
7 ships damaged:
BB Royal Sovereign; 4 shell hits.
BB South Dakota; 1 shell hit.
AK Murzim; 4 bomb hits; heavy fires.
xAK Ansom Burlingame; 3 shell hits; heavy fires.
xAK Archbishop Lamy; 1 shell hit; heavy fires.
xAK American; 1 shell hit; on fire.
xAK Kiang; 1 shell hit; on fire.


Taichu

1 destroyed and 2 damaged (NiKi George).
1 destroyed and 2 damaged (Ki-84a Frank).
1 destroyed and 3 damaged (G4M1 Betty).
35 troop casualties.
0 ships.


No losses.

Takao

1 destroyed and 16 damaged (G4M1 Betty).
2 destroyed (Ki-49-IIb Helen).
7 destroyed (B5N1 Kate).
11 destroyed (Ki-44 IIc Tojo).
12 destroyed (Ki-45 KAIa Nick).
24 destroyed (Ki-84a Frank).
2,101 troop casualties.
0 ships.


1 destroyed (F4F-4 Wildcat).
3 destroyed (F6F-3 Hellcat).
307 troop casualties.
7 ships damaged:
BB Ramilles; 3 torpedo hits; on fire; heavy damage.
BB California; 3 torpedo hits; heavy damage.
BB Indiana; 1 torpedo hit.
xAK William M. Mayo; 1 torpedo hit; on fire; heavy damage.
xAK William Luckenbach; 2 shell hits; on fire.
xAK Steel Worker; 1 shell hit.
xAK Hollywood; 1 shell hit.



Attached below as a link is the entire Combat Report for September 24, 1943.

Best Regards,

-Terry



Attachment (1)

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RE: THE WAR COLLEGE-Rio Bravo (A) v. El Lobo (J) - 10/21/2017 11:00:32 AM   
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The British R class and the California are heavily damaged and a long way from home, will you disband them in a port you capture and hope the pump out some flooding before attempting to send them the long way to a repair facility?

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RE: THE WAR COLLEGE-Rio Bravo (A) v. El Lobo (J) - 10/21/2017 3:17:38 PM   
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ORIGINAL: Bif1961

The British R class and the California are heavily damaged and a long way from home, will you disband them in a port you capture and hope the pump out some flooding before attempting to send them the long way to a repair facility?

Pescadores has a shipyard but it may not have been expanded enough to take a BB.

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RE: THE WAR COLLEGE-Rio Bravo (A) v. El Lobo (J) - 10/22/2017 12:27:03 AM   
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It is always dicey to port damaged ships or repair them well within bombing range of your opponent.

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RE: THE WAR COLLEGE-Rio Bravo (A) v. El Lobo (J) - 10/22/2017 3:33:13 AM   
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It is always dicey to port damaged ships or repair them well within bombing range of your opponent.

Agreed, but he does have carrier cover and presumably brought some fighters he can put to work on land.

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RE: THE WAR COLLEGE-Rio Bravo (A) v. El Lobo (J) - 10/22/2017 7:55:46 AM   
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ORIGINAL: Rio Bravo

Progress Report

Regarding

El Lobo's Vacation



El Lobo arrived at my home on September 22rd. We smoked weed, drank 3/4 of a bottle of tequila, caught-up on what each of us had been doing the past year since his last visit, and laughed until we went to bed around 4:30 a.m.

The next few days we alternated days between no intoxicants to being hammered.

Neither El Lobo nor myself experienced a hangover. However, the worst was still to come.

Captain Haggard arrived around 3:00 p.m. on September 29th. Within fifteen minutes, Captain Haggard had a glass of red wine in hand and ushered us out onto the back deck. We quickly resolved all the current World Affair problems to efficiently dispose of such trivial matters so that we could concentrate on important matters such as smoking weed, drinking wine, shooting shots of tequila, trash talking each other and all of you, and laughing to the point that at times it took a while to complete any given sentence. Captain Haggard managed to cook and serve us a three course dinner over a three or four hour period commencing around 7:00 p.m. (we were already a bit hammered). The first course was salmon seasoned over a four day period and I believe crème cheese on some sort of dark Rye bread. About 90 minutes later, Hag served us shrimp crab-cakes with his own concocted sauce (We were substantially hammered). About 90 minutes later, Hag served us filet mignons with a salad made by the Adjutant (Hag's wife) and transported to Grass Valley via a Hellcat (we were completely destroyed). El Lobo and Captain Haggard emptied 3 1/2 bottles of wine, El Lobo had a shot of tequila from the fresh bottle Hag had brought for us, and I finished draining the tequila past the half-way point. El Lobo and I also smoked weed. We went to bed at around sunup at which time Hag was struggling to open the closet door by the front door of my home. "I asked, "What are you doing?" Hag replied, "Going to bed." I said, "You might try the back bedroom."

Last night, El Lobo and Captain Haggard said they got quite happy emptying a bottle of Sake. I smoked a bit of weed. We crashed relatively early, about 1:00 a.m.

Captain Haggard left this morning around 9:00 a.m. El Lobo will head back to the Bay Area on October 4th and he flies back to Thailand (his home) on October 6th.



Best Regards,

-Terry



No pictures, no happened

< Message edited by adarbrauner -- 10/22/2017 7:57:28 AM >

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RE: THE WAR COLLEGE-Rio Bravo (A) v. El Lobo (J) - 10/22/2017 10:38:46 AM   
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ORIGINAL: Rio Bravo

September 23, 1943



Highlights for Today


1.) The vast majority of the Combat Action today was either at or in the vicinity of Saipan, Takao, Taichu, Pescadores, and Amoy.

2.) Day two of Operations Bottle (the invasion of Takao), Cork (the invasion of Pescadores), and John B. Hood (the invasion of Amoy) resulted in Japan winning at sea (sinking and damaging numerous Allied ships) and resulted in Japan inflicting substantial casualties on Allied troops whereas the Allies won the battle in sky.

3.) Only one capital ship was damaged today; an Allied BB took three shell hits.

4.) The U.S. Army landed at Takao and Pescadores and the U.S. Marines landed at Amoy.

5.) Not too surprisingly (as El Lobo is no doubt flying his aircraft in China south to meet the Allied threat at Amoy) Japanese Aircraft did not bomb Chungking. Japan did bombard Chungking and inflicted 300 Chinese casualties.

6.) Exclusive of the losses at Chungking, the losses for both sides today are summarized below along with the attached entire Combat Report for September 23, 1943.


Summary of Losses for Today


Ship Losses

8 ships sunk and 2 ships damaged (Japan).

3 ships sunk and 33 ships damaged (Allies).

Aircraft Losses

39 aircraft destroyed and 195 aircraft damaged (Japan).

16 aircraft destroyed (Allies).

Troop Losses

827 casualties (Japan).

8,104 casualties (Allies).




Allied Ship Losses

BB Royal Sovereign: 3 shell hits.
DMS Lamberton: 1 shell hit.
DMS Long: on fire.
DMS Chandler: on fire; heavy damage.
DMS Perry: heavy fires; heavy damage.
DMS Dorsey: heavy fires; heavy damage.
AM Herd: on fire.
AM Tumult: on fire; heavy damage.
AM Direct: heavy fires; heavy damage.
YMS-148: heavy fires; heavy damage.
YMS: 219: heavy fires; heavy damage.
YMS 272: heavy fires; heavy damage.
YMS-242: heavy fires; heavy damage.
YMS-274: heavy fires; heavy damage.
APA Harris: 1 mine hit.
xAP Mariposa: on fire.
xAP President Fillmore: on fire.
xAP President Taylor: on fire.
xAK Andrew Furuseth: 1 mine hit
xAK Steel Worker: 1 shell hit.
xAK Russell A. Alger: 1 shell hit.
xAK San Gabriel: 1 shell hit.
xAK Ohioan: 2 shell hits.
xAK Cape May: 2 shell hits.
xAK Steel Navigator: 2 shell hits.
xAK San Simeon: on fire.
xAK Conrad Korhs: heavy fires.
xAK Amos Kendall: heavy fires.
xAK Irenee Du Pont: heavy fires.
xAK Cleveland Abbe: heavy fires.
xAK Robert H. Harrison: heavy fires.
xAK Leland Stanford: heavy fires.
xAK Ellenga: heavy damage.
xAK Garamula: sunk.
xAK Mormaegull: sunk.
xAK Steel Voyager: sunk.



Best Regards,

-Terry



I guess mine hits were suffered aat Takao, isn'it?

I wonder wheather El Lobo has reinforced or layed new minefields just moments before your landings after having got wind of your approaching route.

Or, if the mines encountered pertain to the original from start of the game minefield.

Could you post details regarding mine ops there?

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RE: THE WAR COLLEGE-Rio Bravo (A) v. El Lobo (J) - 10/22/2017 1:20:03 PM   
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ORIGINAL: Bif1961

The British R class and the California are heavily damaged and a long way from home, will you disband them in a port you capture and hope the pump out some flooding before attempting to send them the long way to a repair facility?



Bif-

I haven't decided what I am going to do regarding most of the heavily damaged ships in the vicinity of Formosa. Leaving them at a recently captured base leaves them as sitting ducks once the Invasion Fleet heads back to Guam and Pearl. Putting them with the Invasion Fleet would slow the Invasion Fleet's return to a slow crawl. Sending them home on their own leaves them rather vulnerable to being sunk on the high seas. After all the troops, aircraft, and supply have unloaded at Amoy, Pescadores, and Takao, I will make a decision.

However, I am ordering the heavily damaged British Battleship to Tokyo Bay. It is scheduled to withdraw from the theater within sixty days. There is no way it can be repaired and make an acceptable port of departure prior to the withdrawal date. There is also no way I am going to accept loss of Political Points every damn day for months.

Best Regards,

-Terry


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RE: THE WAR COLLEGE-Rio Bravo (A) v. El Lobo (J) - 10/22/2017 1:25:21 PM   
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ORIGINAL: BBfanboy


quote:

ORIGINAL: Bif1961

The British R class and the California are heavily damaged and a long way from home, will you disband them in a port you capture and hope the pump out some flooding before attempting to send them the long way to a repair facility?

Pescadores has a shipyard but it may not have been expanded enough to take a BB.


BBfanboy-

At this time, I don't know the shipyard repair capacity at Pescadores.

Upon receipt of the next turn from El Lobo I will check the shipyard repair capacity and let The War College know its size.

Best Regards,

-Terry


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RE: THE WAR COLLEGE-Rio Bravo (A) v. El Lobo (J) - 10/22/2017 1:29:47 PM   
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ORIGINAL: adarbrauner

quote:

ORIGINAL: Rio Bravo

Progress Report

Regarding

El Lobo's Vacation



El Lobo arrived at my home on September 22rd. We smoked weed, drank 3/4 of a bottle of tequila, caught-up on what each of us had been doing the past year since his last visit, and laughed until we went to bed around 4:30 a.m.

The next few days we alternated days between no intoxicants to being hammered.

Neither El Lobo nor myself experienced a hangover. However, the worst was still to come.

Captain Haggard arrived around 3:00 p.m. on September 29th. Within fifteen minutes, Captain Haggard had a glass of red wine in hand and ushered us out onto the back deck. We quickly resolved all the current World Affair problems to efficiently dispose of such trivial matters so that we could concentrate on important matters such as smoking weed, drinking wine, shooting shots of tequila, trash talking each other and all of you, and laughing to the point that at times it took a while to complete any given sentence. Captain Haggard managed to cook and serve us a three course dinner over a three or four hour period commencing around 7:00 p.m. (we were already a bit hammered). The first course was salmon seasoned over a four day period and I believe crème cheese on some sort of dark Rye bread. About 90 minutes later, Hag served us shrimp crab-cakes with his own concocted sauce (We were substantially hammered). About 90 minutes later, Hag served us filet mignons with a salad made by the Adjutant (Hag's wife) and transported to Grass Valley via a Hellcat (we were completely destroyed). El Lobo and Captain Haggard emptied 3 1/2 bottles of wine, El Lobo had a shot of tequila from the fresh bottle Hag had brought for us, and I finished draining the tequila past the half-way point. El Lobo and I also smoked weed. We went to bed at around sunup at which time Hag was struggling to open the closet door by the front door of my home. "I asked, "What are you doing?" Hag replied, "Going to bed." I said, "You might try the back bedroom."

Last night, El Lobo and Captain Haggard said they got quite happy emptying a bottle of Sake. I smoked a bit of weed. We crashed relatively early, about 1:00 a.m.

Captain Haggard left this morning around 9:00 a.m. El Lobo will head back to the Bay Area on October 4th and he flies back to Thailand (his home) on October 6th.



Best Regards,

-Terry



No pictures, no happened



adarbrauner-


I probably should have taken some photos of the happy crew on the back deck.

If it didn't happen, I sure have some pleasant dreams.

Best Regards,

-Terry


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RE: THE WAR COLLEGE-Rio Bravo (A) v. El Lobo (J) - 10/22/2017 1:37:24 PM   
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I don't believe that El Lobo knew where the Allies were landing until they landed. Even when the Invasion Fleet turned west close to the Bonin Islands, El Lobo might have thought the Invasion Fleet was heading to Okinawa or Hong Kong or the Philippines.

Captain Haggard has a better read on the topic of mines. Perhaps he is in a better position to provide better answers to your questions.

Best Regards,

-Terry

< Message edited by Rio Bravo -- 10/22/2017 1:38:14 PM >


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RE: THE WAR COLLEGE-Rio Bravo (A) v. El Lobo (J) - 10/23/2017 12:26:58 AM   
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Can you scuttle the R class BB? Since u plan to send it on a suicide mission i think the British sailors would appreciate being put ashore rather than to die at sea for political points.

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RE: THE WAR COLLEGE-Rio Bravo (A) v. El Lobo (J) - 10/23/2017 7:25:08 PM   
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I suggest docking the damaged BBs anywhere. They will attract flies keeping them off other targets.

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RE: THE WAR COLLEGE-Rio Bravo (A) v. El Lobo (J) - 10/23/2017 10:39:27 PM   
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quote:

ORIGINAL: adarbrauner


quote:

ORIGINAL: Rio Bravo

September 23, 1943



Highlights for Today


1.) The vast majority of the Combat Action today was either at or in the vicinity of Saipan, Takao, Taichu, Pescadores, and Amoy.

2.) Day two of Operations Bottle (the invasion of Takao), Cork (the invasion of Pescadores), and John B. Hood (the invasion of Amoy) resulted in Japan winning at sea (sinking and damaging numerous Allied ships) and resulted in Japan inflicting substantial casualties on Allied troops whereas the Allies won the battle in sky.

3.) Only one capital ship was damaged today; an Allied BB took three shell hits.

4.) The U.S. Army landed at Takao and Pescadores and the U.S. Marines landed at Amoy.

5.) Not too surprisingly (as El Lobo is no doubt flying his aircraft in China south to meet the Allied threat at Amoy) Japanese Aircraft did not bomb Chungking. Japan did bombard Chungking and inflicted 300 Chinese casualties.

6.) Exclusive of the losses at Chungking, the losses for both sides today are summarized below along with the attached entire Combat Report for September 23, 1943.


Summary of Losses for Today


Ship Losses

8 ships sunk and 2 ships damaged (Japan).

3 ships sunk and 33 ships damaged (Allies).

Aircraft Losses

39 aircraft destroyed and 195 aircraft damaged (Japan).

16 aircraft destroyed (Allies).

Troop Losses

827 casualties (Japan).

8,104 casualties (Allies).




Allied Ship Losses

BB Royal Sovereign: 3 shell hits.
DMS Lamberton: 1 shell hit.
DMS Long: on fire.
DMS Chandler: on fire; heavy damage.
DMS Perry: heavy fires; heavy damage.
DMS Dorsey: heavy fires; heavy damage.
AM Herd: on fire.
AM Tumult: on fire; heavy damage.
AM Direct: heavy fires; heavy damage.
YMS-148: heavy fires; heavy damage.
YMS: 219: heavy fires; heavy damage.
YMS 272: heavy fires; heavy damage.
YMS-242: heavy fires; heavy damage.
YMS-274: heavy fires; heavy damage.
APA Harris: 1 mine hit.
xAP Mariposa: on fire.
xAP President Fillmore: on fire.
xAP President Taylor: on fire.
xAK Andrew Furuseth: 1 mine hit
xAK Steel Worker: 1 shell hit.
xAK Russell A. Alger: 1 shell hit.
xAK San Gabriel: 1 shell hit.
xAK Ohioan: 2 shell hits.
xAK Cape May: 2 shell hits.
xAK Steel Navigator: 2 shell hits.
xAK San Simeon: on fire.
xAK Conrad Korhs: heavy fires.
xAK Amos Kendall: heavy fires.
xAK Irenee Du Pont: heavy fires.
xAK Cleveland Abbe: heavy fires.
xAK Robert H. Harrison: heavy fires.
xAK Leland Stanford: heavy fires.
xAK Ellenga: heavy damage.
xAK Garamula: sunk.
xAK Mormaegull: sunk.
xAK Steel Voyager: sunk.



Best Regards,

-Terry



I guess mine hits were suffered aat Takao, isn'it?

I wonder wheather El Lobo has reinforced or layed new minefields just moments before your landings after having got wind of your approaching route.

Or, if the mines encountered pertain to the original from start of the game minefield.

Could you post details regarding mine ops there?


AB—

Digging down for the minute details of mine-clearing ops gets me closer to the gin and it's only three-thirty.

Suffice to say,

1) Hundreds of intrinsic mines littered Pescadores and Takao. I don't believe any had been added by enemy minelayers, but then again, El Lobo did not have much time to distinguish which of approximately two-dozen nearby targets we planned on invading. I don't think Amoy had any mines;

2) The minesweepers took heavy losses, mainly from coastal guns. Only one or two hit mines whilst collecting. It's a pretty banged-up force, and it will take all the reinforcements over the coming three months to get it back to strength, primarily because it never fully recovered after the Marianas. Some of these vessels that are damaged are going to stay behind in captured ports, lacking any options; their fate will depend on CAP and AA until they can repair;

3) I think/hope all the mines are cleared as of now, but in the Marianas El sent minelaying SS in after we captured bases, so additional MS will stay behind to sweep these brazen incursions.

Good to hear from you!

Hag

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RE: THE WAR COLLEGE-Rio Bravo (A) v. El Lobo (J) - 10/24/2017 4:08:42 AM   
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I have ordered the Battleship California to Takao. It is in serious trouble with floatation damage at 92. Hopefully it can last long enough to draw some of the enemy aircraft to itself.

I don't see how the Battleship Ramillies can make it to a port, repair enough to move to a port with a shipyard repair, repair itself fully at a shipyard repair port, and move to a port where it can be withdrawn; all within 88 days. Accordingly, I have ordered the Ramillies full speed ahead to Tokyo Bay on a direct, absolute route.

A screenshot of the Ramillies is below.

Best Regards,

-Terry





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RE: THE WAR COLLEGE-Rio Bravo (A) v. El Lobo (J) - 10/24/2017 4:14:10 AM   
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Amoy

September 25, 1943



El Lobo has a few more days to attack the Allies at Amoy with Surface Combat Ships and Bombers.

Allied Amphibious Task Forces still need to unload 11,975 troops; 614,951 supply; and 19,216 fuel.

A screenshot of the Amoy base is below.

Best Regards,

-Terry





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< Message edited by Rio Bravo -- 10/24/2017 4:25:59 AM >


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RE: THE WAR COLLEGE-Rio Bravo (A) v. El Lobo (J) - 10/24/2017 4:19:39 AM   
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Pescadores
September 25, 1943



El Lobo has a few days to attack the Allies at Pescadores with Surface Combat Ships and Bombers.

Allied Amphibious Task Forces still need to unload 1,170 troops; 150,341 supply; and 329 fuel.

The Repair Shipyard is at zero.

Port damage is at 90.

A screenshot of the Pescadores Base is below.

Best Regards,

-Terry





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RE: THE WAR COLLEGE-Rio Bravo (A) v. El Lobo (J) - 10/24/2017 4:25:21 AM   
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Takao

September 25, 1943



El Lobo has a few more days to attack the Allies at Takao with Surface Combat Ships and Bombers.

Allied Amphibious Task Forces still need to unload 44,370 troops; 484,528 supply; and 35,107 fuel.

A screenshot of the Takao Base is below.

Best Regards,

-Terry





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RE: THE WAR COLLEGE-Rio Bravo (A) v. El Lobo (J) - 10/24/2017 5:28:17 AM   
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You have enough supply to spend some on repairing industry you need, and also to draw PT Boats at the ports if you wish.

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RE: THE WAR COLLEGE-Rio Bravo (A) v. El Lobo (J) - 10/24/2017 5:36:35 AM   
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September 25, 1943

Combat Report



Highlights for Today


1.) El Lobo puts two torpedoes and one bomb hit into BB Nevada.

2.) The Allies sink 2 minor Japanese ships and Captain Haggard puts a torpedo into a Japanese Tanker.

3.) The Allies win the battles in the sky destroying 15 Japanese Aircraft and damaging 12 other Japanese Aircraft while only losing one Hellcat.

4.) If you were planning on taking your vacation in Chungking this year be advised it isn't there anymore.


Synopsis of Combat Action for Today


1.) Night Time Surface Combat Near Takao (hex 84,66):

Japanese Losses

MTB G-2; sunk.
AMc Choun Maru #7; sunk.


No Allied Losses.

2.) Hag Gets Some Near Shanghai (hex 93,56):

Japanese Losses

TK Tonan Maru #3; 1 torpedo hit; heavy fires.

No Allied losses.

3.) Japanese Air Attack Near Taichu (hex 86,64):

Japanese Losses

3 destroyed and 12 damaged (G4M1 Betty).

Allied Losses

BB Nevada; 2 torpedoe hits and 1 bomb hit.

4.) Japanese Air Attack Near Pescadores (hex 84,63):

Japanese Losses

2 destroyed (Ki-21-IIa Sally).
2 destroyed (G4Mi Betty).
3 destroyed (B5N2 Kate).
5 destroyed Ki-84a Frank).


Allied Losses

1 destroyed F6F-3 Hellcat).

5.) Japanese Bomb Ashes at Chungking.

6.) Japanese Bombard Chinese Near Chungking (hex 77,46):

No Japanese losses.

Allied Losses

50 casualties.


Attached below as a link is the entire Combat Report for September 25, 1943.

Best Regards,

-Terry





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RE: THE WAR COLLEGE-Rio Bravo (A) v. El Lobo (J) - 10/24/2017 5:45:32 AM   
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quote:

ORIGINAL: BBfanboy

You have enough supply to spend some on repairing industry you need, and also to draw PT Boats at the ports if you wish.



BBfanboy-


Captain Haggard and I spoke on the phone earlier tonight and he advised that he will be creating PT Boats in the near future.

How does one repair industry? Do I need do more than just build the ports, airbases, and forts?

Best Regards,

-Terry


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RE: THE WAR COLLEGE-Rio Bravo (A) v. El Lobo (J) - 10/24/2017 3:30:45 PM   
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Go to the industry interface and repair (yellow text) is either toggled on or off.

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RE: THE WAR COLLEGE-Rio Bravo (A) v. El Lobo (J) - 10/24/2017 5:02:52 PM   
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quote:

ORIGINAL: HansBolter

Go to the industry interface and repair (yellow text) is either toggled on or off.

If the industry repair is turned "on" and the base has over 10,000 supply, one point of the damage will be repaired at the end of the turn but it will use 1000 supply. At this stage it is probably only worth your while to repair the Shipyard. The payback time for repairing one point of light industry would be nearly three years from the time you repair the point of damage.

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RE: THE WAR COLLEGE-Rio Bravo (A) v. El Lobo (J) - 10/26/2017 6:33:10 AM   
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quote:

ORIGINAL: HansBolter

Go to the industry interface and repair (yellow text) is either toggled on or off.



HansBolter-


Thank you Hans. Found it and toggled the shipyard on.

Best Regards,

-Terry


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RE: THE WAR COLLEGE-Rio Bravo (A) v. El Lobo (J) - 10/26/2017 6:34:59 AM   
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quote:

ORIGINAL: BBfanboy


quote:

ORIGINAL: HansBolter

Go to the industry interface and repair (yellow text) is either toggled on or off.


If the industry repair is turned "on" and the base has over 10,000 supply, one point of the damage will be repaired at the end of the turn but it will use 1000 supply. At this stage it is probably only worth your while to repair the Shipyard. The payback time for repairing one point of light industry would be nearly three years from the time you repair the point of damage.



BBfanboy-


I appreciate the guidance BB and I am on it.

Best Regards,

-Terry


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RE: THE WAR COLLEGE-Rio Bravo (A) v. El Lobo (J) - 10/26/2017 6:45:33 AM   
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September 26, 1943



Highlight for Today


An easy day.

The troops did laundry, wrote letters home, and lied to their buddies about anything they thought might be interesting to pass the time and take their minds off El Lobo's deadly attacks.


Synopsis of combat Action for Today


1.) My brave Chinese are starving in Chungking. Even the rats have left.

2.) Japanese Afternoon Air Attack Near Takao (hex 84,65):

Japanese Losses

4 destroyed (B5N1 Kate)
4 destroyed (Ki-84a Frank)


No Allied losses.

3.) Allies Deliberate Attack at Pescadores:

Japan Losses

888 casualties.

Allied Losses

83 casualties.


Attached below as a link is the entire Combat Report for September 26, 1943.

Best Regards,

-Terry


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RE: THE WAR COLLEGE-Rio Bravo (A) v. El Lobo (J) - 10/26/2017 7:53:59 AM   
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I just caught up after a one-month hiatus. It sounds like you gentlemen know how to party. Do you ever meet up in El's neck of the woods? I hear the festivities there can be interesting, especially along the Eastern Seaboard.

Congrats on the bold invasion. In 1943 Empire doesn't print brigades for garrison duty like it does in 1944. One question: What's the potential size of the shipyard in the Pescadores (i.e. once it's repaired)?

Cheers,
CC

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