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[FIXED B972.11] Anti satellite missiles - 10/26/2017 8:14:26 PM

Stealth2017

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Hi,

Somehow I have a feeling that as of v 1.13 it is not possible to launch RIM-161E SM3 block IIA against the satellites even though it is more than capable to do so:

On February 21, 2008 at 03:26 UTC, the Ticonderoga-class guided-missile cruiser USS Lake Erie fired a single SM-3 missile, hit and successfully destroyed the satellite, with a closing velocity of about 22,783 mph (36,667 km/h) while the satellite was 247 kilometers (133 nautical miles) above the Pacific Ocean.[42][43] USS Decatur, USS Russell as well as other land, air, sea and space-based sensors were involved in the operation.[44][45].

According to the database the maximum target speed is just 10000 kts. Which information is more accurate?

BTW I know for sure that I have managed to destroy 4 Chinese satellites using the mentioned missile:

SIDE: China
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LOSSES:
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16x 30mm China LD-2000 [Type 730]
38x 35mm/90 Twin Type 90 [China Type 902 FC]
17x A/C Hangar (1x Very Large Aircraft)
11x A/C Hangar (2x Large Aircraft)
30x A/C Hangar (2x Medium Aircraft)
6x A/C Hangar (2x Small Aircraft)
12x A/C Hangar (2x Very Large Aircraft)
28x A/C Hardened Aircraft Shelter (1x Large Aircraft)
2x A-50 Mainring [KJ-2000]
18x Ammo Pad
4x Ammo Revetment
45x Ammo Shelter
12x AvGas (150k Liter Tank)
2x AvGas (400k Liter Tank)
10x Building (Airport Terminal)
17x Building (Control Tower)
20x Building (Large)
4x CJ-10 TEL
2x DDG 136 Hangzhou [Pr.956E Sovremenny]
12x DF-21C TEL [CSS-5 Mod-3]
42x H-6G Badger [H-6M]
11x H-6K Badger [God of War]
48x HQ-12 Twin Rail
23x HQ-16A TEL
24x HQ-16B TEL
12x HQ-17 TELAR
18x HQ-2b Guideline Single Rail
28x HQ-7 [FM-80, CSA-4]
56x HQ-9A TEL
12x HY-6U Badger [H-6U]
66x J-10A Vigorous Dragon
12x J-10AH Vigorous Dragon
5x J-10B Vigorous Dragon
6x J-10C Vigorous Dragon
34x J-11B Flanker B [Su-27SK Copy]
12x J-11BH Flanker B [Su-27SK Copy]
6x J-11BSH Flanker B [Su-27UBK Copy]
5x J-11D Flanker B [Su-27SK Copy]
18x J-20 Mighty Dragon
12x J-8F Finback B [J-8II]
2x JD-16 Flying Shark [Su-27UBK Copy]
4x Ka-28 Helix A
8x PGZ04A PGZ95 Type 95 SPAAG/SAM
12x PGZ-07 SPAAG
22x Radar (Bar Lock A [P-37])
2x Radar (Big Bird C [64N6])
4x Radar (China JY-11B)
1x Radar (China JY-14 Great Wall)
4x Radar (China JY-27 Wide Mat)
1x Radar (China OTH-SW Receiver)
1x Radar (China OTH-SW Transmitter)
1x Radar (China REL-1)
1x Radar (China YLC-4)
1x Radar (HQ-16A Search Radar)
3x Radar (Tin Shield B [5N59S/36D6])
7x SA-10b Grumble [5P85S] TEL
6x SA-15b Gauntlet [9A331] TELAR
18x SA-16 Gimlet [9K310 Igla-1] MANPADS
24x SA-20a Gargoyle [5P85SE] TEL
37x Su-30MKK Flanker G
11x Su-30MKK2 Flanker G
1x Type 052B Luyang I [168 Guangzhou]
2x Type 052C Luyang II [170 Lanzhou]
2x Type 052D Luyang III [173 Changsha]
3x Type 054A Jiangkai II [530 Xuzhou]
2x Type 054A++ Jiangkai II [576 Daqing]
1x Vehicle (1L222 Kvant [Apure/Avtobaza] Mobile Jammer+ELINT)
8x Vehicle (China H-200)
4x Vehicle (China HQ-7 Search Radar)
7x Vehicle (China HT-233 [HQ-9])
19x Vehicle (China Type 902)
7x Vehicle (China YLC-2V)
2x Vehicle (China YLC-6)
3x Vehicle (Chop Rest)
8x Vehicle (Clam Shell [5N66])
2x Vehicle (Flap Lid B [5N63S])
3x Vehicle (Gin Sling B [ZD-2(B)])
11x Vehicle (HQ-16A FCR)
6x Vehicle (Tombstone [30N6])
1x Vehicle (YLC-20 ELS [Tamara/Vera Copy])
1x Y-8Q Cub [High New 6]
3x Y-8W Cub [High New 5, KJ-200 Balance Beam]
3x Y-9 Cub [High New 9, KJ-500 Rotodome]
4x Y-9G Cub [High New 11]
2x Y-9JB Cub [High New 8]
7x Z-9C Dauphin 2

EXPENDITURES:
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1x 1400 liter Drop Tank
36x 1700 liter Drop Tank
2x 23mm Type 23-3 Burst [40 rnds]
24x 25mm Quad Type 95 Burst [20 rnds]
66x 30mm China H/PJ-12 [Type 730, 240 rnds]
16x 30mm Gsh-30-1 Burst [30 rnds]
862x 35mm/90 Twin Type-90 Burst [20 rnds, China Type 902 FC]
18x 800 liter Drop Tank
2x AA-11 Archer [R-73M1]
18x AA-12 Adder A [R-77, RVV-AE]
1x China Towed Acoustic Decoy
16x DF-21C [Conventional, CSS-5 Mod-3]
8x DF-21D [ASBM, Conventional, CSS-5 Mod-4]
8x DF-21D RV [ASBM, CSS-5 Mod-4]
8x DF-26C [Conventional]
8x DF-26C RV [Conventional]
17x Generic Active Directional Sonobuoy
775x Generic Chaff Salvo [4x Cartridges]
49x Generic Flare Salvo [4x Cartridges, Single Spectral]
26x Generic Passive Directional Sonobuoy
73x HQ-12
14x HQ-16A [Semi Buk Copy]
63x HQ-16B
89x HQ-17 [SA-15 Copy]
112x HQ-7 Crotale [FM-80, CSA-4]
292x HQ-9A
252x KD-20 [CJ-10A] ALCM
27x PL-10
443x PL-12
134x PL-12C
102x PL-15
13x PL-8B [Python 3]
36x RGB-NM-1 [Passive Omni]
44x SA-10b Grumble [5V55RUD]
47x SA-15b Gauntlet [9M331]
149x SA-20a Gargoyle [48N6E]
12x YJ-100 [CJ-10A Mod] ASCM
16x YJ-12
2x Yu-7

SIDE: US Satellites
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LOSSES:
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EXPENDITURES:
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SIDE: China Satellites
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LOSSES:
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3x
1x

Regards,

< Message edited by emsoy -- 10/30/2017 8:44:47 PM >

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RE: Anti satellite missiles - 10/27/2017 5:56:41 PM

ComDev

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Do you have a savegame that I can use for debugging?

That will help a lot!

Thanks!

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RE: Anti satellite missiles - 10/27/2017 7:05:57 PM

Stealth2017

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Hi Emsoy,

I am sending you attached a save game.

Regards

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RE: Anti satellite missiles - 10/27/2017 7:46:59 PM

ComDev

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Hmmm yeah... some of the ELINT satellites are too high, but the lower altitude sats are within Max altitude at least.

I see we changed the SM-3 Blk IIA max target speed from 12000kt to 10000kt in later databases. However it seems the speed of the satellites is 14000+ kts.

Weird.

I'll need to dig into. Did satellites have a lower speed in older builds? Can't remember hehe.

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RE: Anti satellite missiles - 10/28/2017 4:01:55 PM

c3k

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Objects in lower orbit move faster than objects in a higher orbit.

Hitting low satellites is harder than hitting high satellites. (Assuming circularized orbits, etc., etc.)

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RE: Anti satellite missiles - 10/30/2017 8:44:05 PM

ComDev

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Fair, I've removed the speed limitation when shooting at satellites. Thanks