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PCMag Article on Best games? - 10/29/2017 12:27:46 PM   
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https://www.pcmag.com/article/344190/the-best-pc-games#strategy
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RE: PCMag Article on Best games? - 10/29/2017 1:07:16 PM   
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RE: PCMag Article on Best games? - 10/29/2017 1:29:03 PM   
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RE: PCMag Article on Best games? - 10/29/2017 3:09:08 PM   
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RE: PCMag Article on Best games? - 10/29/2017 6:03:59 PM   
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RE: PCMag Article on Best games? - 10/29/2017 6:22:40 PM   
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The world of gaming I like seems to be getting smaller...


Yes that is a problem. I have to buy virtually all my games on-line (Direct from Matrix usually) as the stores just don't carry them. Gone are the days of the many software stores you would look around in to find games. Best Buy, Wal-Mart and even GameStop carry very little if anything of the games I have interest in.

As far as the Best Games from the magazine, they don't know what a good game is. Of course that's an old Grognard talking, they are going to go with the games the less knowledgeable but much higher in numbers purchaser base.

Little did we think that Pong would lead us to Playstations, X-box etc. and the ruin of gaming as it should be.

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RE: PCMag Article on Best games? - 10/30/2017 2:56:32 PM   
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RE: PCMag Article on Best games? - 10/31/2017 6:17:21 AM   
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RE: PCMag Article on Best games? - 10/31/2017 8:38:38 AM   
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RE: PCMag Article on Best games? - 10/31/2017 10:23:48 AM   
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When I say the words here, they have nothing in common with how they are used elsewhere.

Any game termed 'strategy' off-site may be a good game, but odds are the relevance of it being termed a strategy title will mean nothing to me.

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RE: PCMag Article on Best games? - 10/31/2017 11:25:16 AM   
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RE: PCMag Article on Best games? - 11/1/2017 7:13:45 AM   
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Well I totally agree with XCOM 2 as a best of 2017 Really awesome game for people that love tactical and strategic games. Of course this is just my opinion


Too many timed battles. I don't like to be rushed in any way playing a strategy game. That's why they are turn based so we can take our time taking our turns.

I give x-com the unknown the nod here and think x-com2 went in the wrong direction.

It's another game I wouldn't play if you gave me a free copy. Tried it didn't like it; refunded it. Don't feel I lost anything at all but the download time.

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RE: PCMag Article on Best games? - 11/1/2017 7:16:01 AM   
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The words strategy and tactics offsite have totally different meanings to the way we use them.

When I say the words here, they have nothing in common with how they are used elsewhere.

Any game termed 'strategy' off-site may be a good game, but odds are the relevance of it being termed a strategy title will mean nothing to me.


Exactly, like RTS, they are not strategy games in my book. Just a wrist jerk click fest. The one with the fastest wrist wins as long as he brings all his troups in a grunt rush. lol

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RE: PCMag Article on Best games? - 11/1/2017 9:12:13 AM   
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RE: PCMag Article on Best games? - 11/1/2017 2:04:35 PM   
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ORIGINAL: aaatoysandmore


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Well I totally agree with XCOM 2 as a best of 2017 Really awesome game for people that love tactical and strategic games. Of course this is just my opinion


Too many timed battles. I don't like to be rushed in any way playing a strategy game. That's why they are turn based so we can take our time taking our turns.

I give x-com the unknown the nod here and think x-com2 went in the wrong direction.

It's another game I wouldn't play if you gave me a free copy. Tried it didn't like it; refunded it. Don't feel I lost anything at all but the download time.


Timed battles? XCOM's tactical battles are all turn based so no battles are real time.

If you mean that there is a turn limit that you need to accomplish something by in XCOM, then I still do not understand. As every historical strategy game I know of has a time limit. So whether you have 12 turns in an XCOM battle or 1,000+ in War in the Pacific, you still have a time limit. Just a difference of scale and time.

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RE: PCMag Article on Best games? - 11/1/2017 2:20:45 PM   
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ORIGINAL: Numdydar


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ORIGINAL: Numdydar

Well I totally agree with XCOM 2 as a best of 2017 Really awesome game for people that love tactical and strategic games. Of course this is just my opinion


Too many timed battles. I don't like to be rushed in any way playing a strategy game. That's why they are turn based so we can take our time taking our turns.

I give x-com the unknown the nod here and think x-com2 went in the wrong direction.

It's another game I wouldn't play if you gave me a free copy. Tried it didn't like it; refunded it. Don't feel I lost anything at all but the download time.


Timed battles? XCOM's tactical battles are all turn based so no battles are real time.

If you mean that there is a turn limit that you need to accomplish something by in XCOM, then I still do not understand. As every historical strategy game I know of has a time limit. So whether you have 12 turns in an XCOM battle or 1,000+ in War in the Pacific, you still have a time limit. Just a difference of scale and time.


Civilization has no time limit or turn limits. You can set it up to play until you launch to Alpha Centauri. SOME games have turn limits; not all. Some games play until you eliminate all the opposing units like in Risk or Stratego.

Also, even in X-Com Unknown save for a couple most of the missions have no time or turn limit. I can take as much time and as many turns as I like to complete those missions. That's what I'm talking about with X-Com2; they went with the turn limits to make up for the POOR ai.

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RE: PCMag Article on Best games? - 11/2/2017 2:18:06 AM   
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Status: offline 		Every Civ game I have ever played has a time limit. Typically 250 turns iirc. In both games you can take as much time as you want to move things around before hitting End Turn.

So XCOM has a 12 turn limit and the Civs have 250. Still do not see a difference.

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RE: PCMag Article on Best games? - 11/2/2017 3:17:22 PM   
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Every Civ game I have ever played has a time limit. Typically 250 turns iirc. In both games you can take as much time as you want to move things around before hitting End Turn.

So XCOM has a 12 turn limit and the Civs have 250. Still do not see a difference.


What do you mean by a "time limit"?

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RE: PCMag Article on Best games? - 11/2/2017 7:04:01 PM   
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Every Civ game I have ever played has a time limit. Typically 250 turns iirc. In both games you can take as much time as you want to move things around before hitting End Turn.

So XCOM has a 12 turn limit and the Civs have 250. Still do not see a difference.


Well let's just say you can't see then. Everyone else understands the difference in Xcom2 and Civilization and many other games. I won't argue with you about it; X-com2 sucks because of the turn and time limits of the game. Period. Plus, X-Com1 has many scenarios without any time or turn limits in them at all. That is all. byeeee

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RE: PCMag Article on Best games? - 11/15/2017 3:56:28 AM   
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RE: PCMag Article on Best games? - 11/15/2017 5:45:15 AM   
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Status: offline 		Nice to post an article about PC's best games. It is an interesting post for game lovers.

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