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BTS4.6 The Mike and Mike show ends Bristolduke (J) v Mi... - 11/8/2017 7:34:46 PM   
bristolduke

 

Posts: 109
Joined: 12/7/2007
Status: offline 		The Mike and Mike era on ESPN is coming to a close. It is only fitting the same can be said here.

This is the companion AAR for "Going The Distance: BTS 4.6 MichaelU/lb4269 (A) vs bristolduke (J)" My esteemed allied opponents known as Michael and Mike are the basis for the title "The Mike and Mike show ends"

These two are clearly better than I am, but hopefully I can surprise them in some areas and pull off the upset. I am also not good at writing, but will try to offer the appropriate perspective to the Mike and Mike show.

We actually played a day before being informed by NYgiants that PDU=off would not work with the mod, thus we changed it and are restarting. Here are the new settings:

Fog of War - ON
Advanced Weather - ON
Allied Damage Control - ON
PDU - ON
Historical First Turn – OFF
Dec 7 Surprise - ON
Reliable USN Torps - OFF
Realistic R&D - ON
No Unit Withdrawals - OFF
Reinforcements - +/- 30 days
Turn cycle - 1

The original WITP had a 33% chance that a carrier would be in Pearl, 33% that both carriers would be in Pearl and thus a 33% chance neither would be in Pearl. AE took the historical approach, yet the main reason Japan executed the Pearl option was to hit the carriers. If Yamamoto had known the carriers would not be there would he have pursued the Pearl option? Intelligence reports could have alerted him to the high probability of both carriers not being present, because of the US approach to rotate them. With all the new assets in this mod, playing a base historical game didn't make sense. With this new direction the Imperial planning sessions would have looked and ended different. Whatever one planned, there would certainly be assets to support it. BTS located assets in logical positions but still most units have their historical location. This may not make sense for a different approach, so some assets were relocated. So in establishing our house rules we tried to accommodate the surprise with some "realistic" limitations, thus our overriding rule of having fun, having a challenge and trying to keep things realistic. Our first turn looked like this

Only for game start:
1) the allies can't change anything turn 1 except in China where the war is already in progress.
2) Japan's approach must be plausible which I defined as follows:
a) day 1 invasions limited area of the Philippines to Malaya and bases on South China Sea, unless these invasions are already preset
b) no CV hunting for 3 turns by Japan
c) no additional warp TF
3) Only one turn 1 port attack
4) Because of the additional assets, strategies in Malaya could be different and certainly could be stronger. The British deployed Force Z as a counter to possible invasions, not knowing where they might take place. However, in a world of larger forces, they may have taken a more conservative approach. Thus the Allied player was allowed to choose between two options. They could leave the TF assignment for force Z in tact and look to contest any Malayan invasions, or they can cancel the orders and remain in port which the assurance that there would be no "port attack" against Singapore on turn 1.

Our other house rules basically stemmed from "gamey" experiences we had uncovered in other games. We may add to this list as the game proceeds as neither side has experienced a complete game and thus may not know all the exploits.

5. No 4 engine bombers below 10,000 ft, and they can’t bomb troops
6. No night bombing under 10,000 ft
7. No silly paratroop fragments drops
8. Amphibious landings only at bases
9. No Chinese units outside China and Burma
10.PPs paid to cross borders (Exception US/Canada and Manchuria/Korea)
11. Aircraft restrictions (which were taken from a post by John 3rd on the mod)
-No A6M3 on CVEs
-No A6M4 on any form of Carrier
-A7M Sam and B7A-D Grace cannot be operated from CVEs


We agreed to use the new BTS mod 4.6. I have decided on the BTSL scenario (60) for the additional battlecruisers and less big BB.

But the real reason is I love alternative historical analysis and the ability of simulations to analyze the impacts. The premise here is the additional influence Adm Yamamoto could have had in the planning of the Japanese operations. The fixation of the Japanese navy on the concept of the "decisive battle" drove much of their strategic thinking. But did that fixation mean there were no options to Pearl Harbor? After Pearl Harbor failed to destroy the carriers, Yamamoto looked for an additional opportunity for the "decisive Battle" Thus came the Midway operation. Rather than surprise, the play to lure the carriers by forcing them to respond to a major threat, "Midway". The plan worked as the US had no choice but to respond. Yamamoto had achieved his "Decisive Battle", it was just decisive for the wrong side as planned.

With all the additional assets, it is no longer necessary to "surprise the carriers" and should in fact be easier to lure the allies into the decisive battle. The longer the allies postpone engaging that battle the closer th Auto Victory Japan will get. The planning for the war is sound will my execution be up the the task?

So what is the plan? As you can see by my "plausible approach", control of the South China Sea is Phase one of the plan. Without control of Malaya and the Philippines, expansion into Sumatra and Java is unrealistic. With the combined use of both IJA and IJN air assets we will immediately establish air superiority in the area. This will be achieved by initial bombing of all key airfields followed by invasions and control of those airfields. Thus the high amount of damaged aircraft will turn into destroyed aircraft. The strategic objective is the destruction of 60% of the allied air assets in the area.

In addition, the initial phase will see the elimination of the US navy from the Philippines. We will solve the US 2 navy problem by eliminating the one in the Philippines. While not the major surface fleet of the US it will allow us a free hand as we move forces into the Southwest Asia theater. We will still have to deal with Force Z, but since Pearl is 5000 miles away we limit the forces the US can bring to bear. The destruction of the merchant fleet will limit what forces the allies can withdraw as well. The strategic objective of Phase one in this area is 80% destruction of US naval/merchant vessels.

The final objective of Phase one is the expansion of the Empire. All bases touching the South China Sea are targets. We expect to occupy 9-% of them in the 1st week of Phase 1 and will control 100%, including Singapore, Clark, Manila and Palembang by the end of the month.

Phase two of the operation will be the control of Sumatra, Java and the Dutch East Indies. In addition we will expand into Burma with the objective of cutting off the Burma road to China. We will also try to engage the US Pacific fleet with invasions in Wake and Midway and expansion into the Coral Sea. Obviously, the timing of Phase two depends upon the success of Phase one and any allied reactions, but it is anticipated that Phase two will complete by the end of February.

The final offense phase has not been fully determined. China will be aggressively pursued and that with success in the first two phases should bring us close to Auto Victory. Thus which direction to pursue will likely be on the disposition of the allies and whether or not we have achieved a decisive victory over the US navy. Keep in mind I have never gotten to this point in previous games so we are dealing with new territory.

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RE: BTS4.6 The Mike and Mike show ends Bristolduke (J) ... - 11/8/2017 11:36:56 PM   
Kitakami


Posts: 1302
Joined: 5/3/2002
From: The bridge of the DNTK Kitakami
Status: offline 		As a JFB, and one that is playing this very scenario from the Allied side, I will read with much interest. Subscribed!

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Tenno Heika Banzai!

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RE: BTS4.6 The Mike and Mike show ends Bristolduke (J) ... - 11/8/2017 11:55:57 PM   
John 3rd


Posts: 17178
Joined: 9/8/2005
From: La Salle, Colorado
Status: offline 		Am glad you chose BTSL. I think it is a GREAT addition to Modding with a more realistic set of BBs for Japan and a few NICE additions past that.

As always, I am available (as well as Michael) for any help you need. Will be following your AAR!

BANZAI!!!

< Message edited by John 3rd -- 11/8/2017 11:57:16 PM >

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RE: BTS4.6 The Mike and Mike show ends Bristolduke (J) ... - 11/9/2017 12:10:02 AM   
PaxMondo


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Joined: 6/6/2008
Status: offline 		Helping Michael in his game, all I can tell you is to watch your supply. IJ looks to be very short of supply production for whatever reason. Take it easy with your factory expansions until you have assessed your supply....

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Pax

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RE: BTS4.6 The Mike and Mike show ends Bristolduke (J) ... - 11/9/2017 12:22:06 AM   
ny59giants


Posts: 9869
Joined: 1/10/2005
Status: offline 		As an AFB at heart playing Japan, the easiest thing to do to eat up too many supplies is expanding bases. I added extra Engineers and Eng Vehicles to OOB.

Warning!! Look at Allied at start OOB as this mod has many changes for both sides at start that can bite.

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RE: BTS4.6 The Mike and Mike show ends Bristolduke (J) ... - 11/9/2017 1:10:54 AM   
FlyByKnight


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From: West Coast
Status: offline 		Mind if I read? I hope you don't get bogged down like in our game.

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RE: BTS4.6 The Mike and Mike show ends Bristolduke (J) ... - 11/9/2017 2:24:44 PM   
bristolduke

 

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quote:

ORIGINAL: CharlieVane

Mind if I read? I hope you don't get bogged down like in our game.


No problem. The fuel bug in that mod is the limitation there and is still a problem. Supply wasn't the problem, so maybe different concerns.

Of course I learned a few things from you as well.

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RE: BTS4.6 The Mike and Mike show ends Bristolduke (J) ... - 11/9/2017 2:26:02 PM   
bristolduke

 

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quote:

ORIGINAL: Kitakami

As a JFB, and one that is playing this very scenario from the Allied side, I will read with much interest. Subscribed!


With 2 day turns vice our one I doubt we will ever catch up to you. But enjoy!

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RE: BTS4.6 The Mike and Mike show ends Bristolduke (J) ... - 11/9/2017 8:48:40 PM   
Bif1961


Posts: 2014
Joined: 6/26/2008
From: Phenix City, Alabama
Status: offline 		Good looking forward to see how this unfolds.

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RE: BTS4.6 The Mike and Mike show ends Bristolduke (J) ... - 11/9/2017 11:03:07 PM   
Kitakami


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From: The bridge of the DNTK Kitakami
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quote:

ORIGINAL: bristolduke
quote:

ORIGINAL: Kitakami
As a JFB, and one that is playing this very scenario from the Allied side, I will read with much interest. Subscribed!

With 2 day turns vice our one I doubt we will ever catch up to you. But enjoy!

Perhaps not, but I am certain I will learn much by reading this AAR :)

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Tenno Heika Banzai!

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RE: BTS4.6 The Mike and Mike show ends Bristolduke (J) ... - 11/10/2017 12:28:42 AM   
bristolduke

 

Posts: 109
Joined: 12/7/2007
Status: offline 		Dec 7 and all is quiet at Pearl Harbor! However most people awake to find the US at war with Japan.

This is a two pronged attack. First to be at war with Japan are the British. Those large toop transports are indeed headed to Mayala and points west. Air cover is provided by a carrier battle group (3 CVL) while two surface combat fleets provide naval cover. The surprise are the morning airfield attacks looking to neutralize the British air forces.

The reports from the debriefings are very encouraging.

Singapore
Japanese aircraft
A6M2 Zero x 72
G3M2 Nell x 13
G4M1 Betty x 57

Allied aircraft
Buffalo I x 24

Japanese aircraft losses
A6M2 Zero: 1 destroyed, 28 damaged
A6M2 Zero: 14 destroyed by flak
G4M1 Betty: 6 damaged

Allied aircraft losses
Buffalo I: 1 destroyed, 23 damaged
Buffalo I: 4 destroyed on ground
Hurricane IIb Trop: 4 destroyed on ground
Blenheim IV: 7 destroyed on ground
S.19 Singapore III: 1 destroyed on ground
Vildebeest III: 6 destroyed on ground
Swordfish I: 1 destroyed on ground
Hudson I: 2 destroyed on ground
Catalina I: 1 destroyed on ground

Airbase hits 31
Airbase supply hits 12
Runway hits 129

Kota Bharu

(coordination lost on this attack. Came in two parts)

Japanese aircraft
Ki-27b Nate x 51

Allied aircraft
no flights

Japanese aircraft losses
Ki-27b Nate: 1 destroyed by flak

Allied aircraft losses
Vildebeest III: 3 damaged
Hudson I: 12 damaged

Airbase hits 18
Airbase supply hits 2
Runway hits 37


Japanese aircraft
Ki-21-IIa Sally x 22

Allied aircraft
no flights

No Japanese losses

Allied aircraft losses
Vildebeest III: 2 damaged
Vildebeest III: 1 destroyed on ground

Airbase supply hits 1
Runway hits 3


Alor Star

Japanese aircraft
Ki-21-IIa Sally x 79

Allied aircraft
no flights

Japanese aircraft losses
Ki-21-IIa Sally: 1 damaged

Allied aircraft losses
Blenheim I: 14 damaged
Blenheim I: 3 destroyed on ground

Airbase hits 18
Airbase supply hits 11
Runway hits 58

Georgetown

(part of this attack aborted)

Japanese aircraft
Ki-43-Ib Oscar x 56

Allied aircraft
no flights

No Japanese losses

Allied aircraft losses
Buffalo I: 25 damaged
Blenheim IF: 18 damaged
Blenheim IF: 1 destroyed on ground


Kuantan


Japanese aircraft
Ki-48-Ib Lily x 25

Allied aircraft
no flights

Japanese aircraft losses
Ki-48-Ib Lily: 1 damaged

Allied aircraft losses
Blenheim I: 2 damaged
Blenheim I: 1 destroyed on ground
Beaufort V (PR): 1 destroyed on ground
Hudson I: 2 damaged

Airbase hits 3
Airbase supply hits 1
Runway hits 25


These were followed up with invasions at Kota Bharu, Kuantan, Mersing, Singkawang, and Kuching. It was after these invasions that the real success of the morning attacks proved that complete air superiority had been achieved as the British offered not air resistance to the invasions. The only counter raised by the British was this attack on the covering carrier group.

Afternoon Air attack on TF, near Terempa at 55,84

Weather in hex: Clear sky

Raid detected at 40 NM, estimated altitude 17,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 17 minutes

Japanese aircraft
A6M2 Zero x 18

Allied aircraft
Wirraway x 4

No Japanese losses

Allied aircraft losses
Wirraway: 3 destroyed

This means that most landing forces will be ashore before any air resistance could be offered tomorrow and of course the covering force is still on station. We will be expecting quick beachheads being established.

A couple of hours after the Malayan airfield attacks, the US forces on the Philippines woke up to the same process. In addition the Kido Butai consisting of 6 CV were off shore.

Manila

Japanese aircraft
A6M2 Zero x 132
B5N2 Kate x 125
D3A1 Val x 147

Allied aircraft
no flights

Japanese aircraft losses
A6M2 Zero: 1 damaged

Allied aircraft losses
P-40E Warhawk: 42 damaged
P-40E Warhawk: 1 destroyed on ground
PBY-4 Catalina: 29 damaged
SOC-1 Seagull: 7 damaged
SOC-1 Seagull: 1 destroyed on ground
Beech 18-S: 2 damaged

Allied Ships
xAP Rochambeau, Bomb hits 4, heavy fires, heavy damage
AS Otus, Bomb hits 3, heavy fires, heavy damage
PG Tulsa, Bomb hits 2, heavy fires, heavy damage
SS Seadragon, Bomb hits 3, and is sunk
AO Pecos, Bomb hits 1, on fire
xAP President Madison, Bomb hits 1
SS Spearfish, Bomb hits 4, and is sunk
TK Mindanao, Bomb hits 1, heavy fires
SS Sturgeon, Bomb hits 3, and is sunk
SS Swordfish, Bomb hits 4, and is sunk
xAKL Compagnia Filipinas, Bomb hits 1, heavy fires, heavy damage
xAK Governor Wright, Bomb hits 2, on fire
PG Isabel, Bomb hits 1, heavy fires, heavy damage
ARD YFD-1 Dewey, Bomb hits 1, on fire
xAK American Leader, Bomb hits 1, on fire, heavy damage
SS Stingray, Bomb hits 2, and is sunk
SS Seal, Bomb hits 2, heavy damage
xAK Ethel Edwards, Bomb hits 2, on fire
xAK Tantalus, Bomb hits 2, on fire
SS Sculpin, Bomb hits 3, and is sunk
xAKL Sagoland, Bomb hits 2, heavy fires, heavy damage
AM Quail, Bomb hits 2, heavy fires
AM Whippoorwill, Bomb hits 2, heavy fires, heavy damage
SS Skipjack, Bomb hits 2, heavy damage
xAKL Paz, Bomb hits 1, on fire
SS S-41, Bomb hits 1
SS Snapper, Bomb hits 2, heavy damage
AVD Childs, Bomb hits 2, heavy fires, heavy damage
AS Canopus, Bomb hits 1, on fire
xAP Elcano, Bomb hits 1, and is sunk
SS Salmon, Bomb hits 2, heavy damage
SS S-37, Bomb hits 2, heavy damage
SS Searaven, Bomb hits 1, heavy damage
SS Sealion, Bomb hits 2, heavy damage
AO Trinity, Bomb hits 1, on fire
SS Sargo, Bomb hits 1
PG Asheville, Bomb hits 2, heavy fires, heavy damage
xAKL Dos Hermanos, Bomb hits 1, and is sunk
xAKL Dona Nati, Bomb hits 1, on fire
xAP Don Esteban, Bomb hits 1, and is sunk
xAK Yu Sang, Bomb hits 1, heavy fires


Repair Shipyard hits 2
Airbase hits 24
Airbase supply hits 11
Runway hits 83
Port hits 26
Port fuel hits 6
Port supply hits 1


Clark Field

(coordination lost. Two separate attacks)

Japanese aircraft
A6M2 Zero x 27
G3M2 Nell x 27
G4M1 Betty x 54

Allied aircraft
no flights

No Japanese losses

Allied aircraft losses
B-17D Fortress: 133 damaged
P-40B Warhawk: 23 damaged
O-47A: 23 damaged
O-47A: 1 destroyed on ground
P-40E Warhawk: 25 damaged
P-40E Warhawk: 1 destroyed on ground

Airbase hits 43
Airbase supply hits 11
Runway hits 132



Japanese aircraft
A6M2 Zero x 54
G4M1 Betty x 27

Allied aircraft
no flights

Japanese aircraft losses
A6M2 Zero: 2 damaged
A6M2 Zero: 1 destroyed by flak

Allied aircraft losses
B-17D Fortress: 5 damaged
P-40B Warhawk: 5 damaged
P-40E Warhawk: 5 damaged
P-40E Warhawk: 1 destroyed on ground
O-47A: 1 damaged

Airbase hits 9
Airbase supply hits 2
Runway hits 25

Ida

(Coordination lost. Two separate attacks)

Japanese aircraft
G4M1 Betty x 27

Allied aircraft
no flights

No Japanese losses

Allied aircraft losses
P-40E Warhawk: 31 damaged
P-40E Warhawk: 1 destroyed on ground

Airbase hits 13
Airbase supply hits 5
Runway hits 51

Japanese aircraft
A6M2 Zero x 9

No Japanese losses


Bataan

Japanese aircraft
G3M2 Nell x 27

Allied aircraft
no flights

Japanese aircraft losses
G3M2 Nell: 4 damaged

Allied aircraft losses
PBY-4 Catalina: 11 damaged

Airbase hits 14
Airbase supply hits 8
Runway hits 60


To the south, LBA and two carrier groups attacked the Cebu and Cagayan airfields, in uncoordinated attacks.

Cagayan

Japanese aircraft
G3M2 Nell x 9

Allied aircraft
no flights

No Japanese losses

Allied aircraft losses
B-17D Fortress: 11 damaged

Airbase hits 10
Airbase supply hits 2
Runway hits 27


Japanese aircraft
A6M2 Zero x 32

Allied aircraft
no flights

No Japanese losses

Allied aircraft losses
B-17D Fortress: 5 damaged

Airbase hits 3
Airbase supply hits 3
Runway hits 9



Cebu

Japanese aircraft
A5M4 Claude x 24
A6M2 Zero x 15
D3A1 Val x 12

Allied aircraft
P-26A x 12

No Japanese losses

Allied aircraft losses
Stearman 75M: 1 destroyed on ground

Airbase hits 2
Airbase supply hits 2
Runway hits 17


The air attacks were followed up by invasions at Lingayen, Iba, Aparri and Busuanga. There was no air resistance offered by the US to these invasions.

There were some skirmishes with US TF.



Morning Air attack on TF, near Iloilo at 79,84

Weather in hex: Clear sky

Raid spotted at 13 NM, estimated altitude 12,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 5 minutes

Japanese aircraft
B5N1 Kate x 12

Japanese aircraft losses
B5N1 Kate: 1 damaged
B5N1 Kate: 1 destroyed by flak

Allied Ships
CA Chicago
CA Houston

Aircraft Attacking:
6 x B5N1 Kate launching torpedoes at 200 feet
Naval Attack: 1 x 45cm Type 91 Torp
5 x B5N1 Kate launching torpedoes at 200 feet
Naval Attack: 1 x 45cm Type 91 Torp



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Morning Air attack on TF, near Siquijor at 76,87

Weather in hex: Clear sky

Raid spotted at 5 NM, estimated altitude 12,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 1 minutes

Japanese aircraft
B5N2 Kate x 14

Japanese aircraft losses
B5N2 Kate: 1 destroyed by flak

Allied Ships
DD Mayrant
CL Boise, Torpedo hits 1
DD John Barry

Aircraft Attacking:
7 x B5N2 Kate launching torpedoes at 200 feet
Naval Attack: 1 x 45cm Type 91 Torp
7 x B5N2 Kate launching torpedoes at 200 feet
Naval Attack: 1 x 45cm Type 91 Torp



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Morning Air attack on TF, near Iloilo at 79,84

Weather in hex: Clear sky

Raid spotted at 20 NM, estimated altitude 12,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 8 minutes

Japanese aircraft
B5N2 Kate x 19

No Japanese losses

Allied Ships
CA Chicago, Bomb hits 6, heavy fires
DD Pillsbury
CA Houston

Aircraft Attacking:
7 x B5N2 Kate bombing from 9000 feet *
Naval Attack: 2 x 250 kg SAP Bomb
6 x B5N2 Kate bombing from 9000 feet *
Naval Attack: 2 x 250 kg SAP Bomb
6 x B5N2 Kate bombing from 9000 feet *
Naval Attack: 2 x 250 kg SAP Bomb

Heavy smoke from fires obscuring CA Chicago


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Afternoon Air attack on TF, near Iloilo at 79,84

Weather in hex: Clear sky

Raid spotted at 15 NM, estimated altitude 10,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 5 minutes

Japanese aircraft
B5N1 Kate x 5
D3A1 Val x 12

No Japanese losses

Allied Ships
CA Houston, Bomb hits 4, heavy fires
CA Chicago, Bomb hits 4, heavy fires

Aircraft Attacking:
1 x D3A1 Val releasing from 2000'
Naval Attack: 1 x 250 kg SAP Bomb
5 x B5N1 Kate bombing from 9000 feet
Naval Attack: 2 x 250 kg SAP Bomb
7 x D3A1 Val releasing from 1000'
Naval Attack: 1 x 250 kg SAP Bomb
4 x D3A1 Val releasing from 3000'
Naval Attack: 1 x 250 kg SAP Bomb

Heavy smoke from fires obscuring CA Houston


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Afternoon Air attack on TF, near Siquijor at 76,87

Weather in hex: Clear sky

Raid spotted at 11 NM, estimated altitude 12,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 4 minutes

Japanese aircraft
B5N1 Kate x 5

No Japanese losses

Allied Ships
CL Boise, Bomb hits 2, on fire

Aircraft Attacking:
5 x B5N1 Kate bombing from 9000 feet *
Naval Attack: 2 x 250 kg SAP Bomb



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Afternoon Air attack on TF, near Iloilo at 79,84

Weather in hex: Clear sky

Raid spotted at 17 NM, estimated altitude 9,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 7 minutes

Japanese aircraft
B5N2 Kate x 42

Japanese aircraft losses
B5N2 Kate: 1 damaged

Allied Ships
DD Pillsbury
CA Chicago, heavy fires, heavy damage
CA Houston, heavy fires
DD Pope
DD Peary, Bomb hits 2, heavy fires, heavy damage
DD John D. Ford

Aircraft Attacking:
15 x B5N2 Kate bombing from 9000 feet *
Naval Attack: 2 x 250 kg SAP Bomb
15 x B5N2 Kate bombing from 9000 feet *
Naval Attack: 2 x 250 kg SAP Bomb
6 x B5N2 Kate bombing from 9000 feet *
Naval Attack: 2 x 250 kg GP Bomb
6 x B5N2 Kate bombing from 9000 feet *
Naval Attack: 2 x 250 kg SAP Bomb

Heavy smoke from fires obscuring CA Houston
Heavy smoke from fires obscuring CA Chicago


According to intelligence estimates we succeeded in achieving our strategic objectives of destroying 60% air assets in Malaya and Philippines and 80% of the US fleet. We still need to capture those airbases to finalize the losses, however, the complete lack of air resistance was a surprise and from the high-command perspective meets day 1 objectives.

Day 2 is now in the hands of Mike and Mike to see about how to respond.

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RE: BTS4.6 The Mike and Mike show ends Bristolduke (J) ... - 11/21/2017 12:49:54 AM   
bristolduke

 

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Joined: 12/7/2007
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There was an operator error, but based upon the results of day 2, it appears the day 1 air assault was very effective.

The clues
1) one air attack on the invasion fleets off Malaya (2 Do-24K-1 attack Mersing, met by 16 zeros)
2) a couple of Swordfish and Vildebeest III show up in Northeast Borneo
3) rush hour traffic out of Singapore and Manila.

First the operator error.
When we did our restart, I tried to replicated every move made previously. As part of this approach two surface combat fleets headed by a couple of BB each were set to accompany the landing task forces. I apparently missed re-establishing those links. I realized after the first turn and hoped it would go in-noticed. No such luck. Force Z went after the Singkawang invasion force.

Night Time Surface Combat, near Singkawang at 56,88, Range 8,000 Yards

Japanese Ships
DD Yamagumo, Shell hits 2, on fire
xAK Fushimi Maru, Shell hits 6, and is sunk
xAK Mexico Maru, Shell hits 6, Torpedo hits 2, and is sunk
xAK Mikasa Maru, Shell hits 9, and is sunk
xAK Ryoyo Maru, Shell hits 8, and is sunk

Allied Ships
BB Prince of Wales, Torpedo hits 1
CL Danae
CL Mauritius
DD Vampire, Shell hits 1, on fire
DD Vendetta


The good news was that the Yamaguro was able to get a torpedo into the Prince of Wales. According to our intel reports this was enough to sink the POW but Headquarters has it's doubts. Still it may have chased Force Z to the south, which would meet our objectives.

Other than that this was a turkey shoot for the Japanese for subs and air attacks.

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Submarine attack near Malacca at 48,81

Japanese Ships
SS I-164

Allied Ships
xAP Perak, Shell hits 1, Torpedo hits 3, heavy damage

xAP Perak is sighted by SS I-164
SS I-164 attacking on the surface


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Submarine attack near Malacca at 48,81

Japanese Ships
SS I-123

Allied Ships
xAP Ipoh, Torpedo hits 2, heavy damage

xAP Ipoh is sighted by SS I-123
SS I-123 attacking on the surface


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Submarine attack near Singapore at 49,85

Japanese Ships
SS I-121

Allied Ships
xAK Demodocus, Torpedo hits 1, on fire, heavy damage

xAK Demodocus is sighted by SS I-121
SS I-121 launches 2 torpedoes

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Submarine attack near Balikpapan at 63,99

Japanese Ships
SS I-153

Allied Ships
TK Josefina, Torpedo hits 2, on fire, heavy damage

TK Josefina is sighted by SS I-153
SS I-153 launches 2 torpedoes at TK Josefina


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Submarine attack near Batu Pahat at 49,82

Japanese Ships
SS I-125

Allied Ships
xAKL Lyemun, Shell hits 4, Torpedo hits 1, heavy fires, heavy damage


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Submarine attack near Balikpapan at 63,99

Japanese Ships
SS I-153

Allied Ships
AG Gemma, Shell hits 1, Torpedo hits 1, heavy damage


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Submarine attack near Muntok at 51,89

Japanese Ships
SS I-155

Allied Ships
xAKL Marudu, Torpedo hits 1, heavy damage

xAKL Marudu is sighted by SS I-155
SS I-155 launches 2 torpedoes at xAKL Marudu


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Submarine attack near Toboali at 51,93

Japanese Ships
SS I-166

Allied Ships
AMC Kanimlba, Torpedo hits 1, on fire, heavy damage


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Submarine attack near Toboali at 51,93

Japanese Ships
SS I-165

Allied Ships
AMC Manoora, Torpedo hits 1, on fire, heavy damage

AMC Manoora is sighted by SS I-165
SS I-165 launches 2 torpedoes



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Submarine attack near Toboali at 51,93

Japanese Ships
SS I-166

Allied Ships
TK British Judge, Shell hits 2, Torpedo hits 3, on fire, heavy damage




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Morning Air attack on TF, near Cebu at 80,86

Weather in hex: Clear sky

Raid spotted at 12 NM, estimated altitude 14,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 4 minutes

Japanese aircraft
B5N1 Kate x 5
D3A1 Val x 12

Allied aircraft
P-26A x 4

Japanese aircraft losses
B5N1 Kate: 1 destroyed
D3A1 Val: 1 damaged

No Allied losses

Allied Ships
xAP Legaspi, Bomb hits 1, and is sunk
xAKL Kanlaon II, Bomb hits 4, and is sunk
xAKL Surigao, Bomb hits 3, and is sunk
xAKL Isla Filipinas, Bomb hits 4, and is sunk

Allied ground losses:
66 casualties reported
Squads: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled
Non Combat: 5 destroyed, 5 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled


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Afternoon Air attack on TF, near Cagayan at 80,88

Weather in hex: Overcast

Raid spotted at 7 NM, estimated altitude 13,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 2 minutes

Japanese aircraft
D3A1 Val x 10

Japanese aircraft losses
D3A1 Val: 1 damaged

Allied Ships
xAP Candioa, Bomb hits 2, and is sunk


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Afternoon Air attack on TF, near Zamboanga at 75,88

Weather in hex: Overcast

Raid spotted at 8 NM, estimated altitude 10,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 3 minutes

Japanese aircraft
B5N2 Kate x 15

No Japanese losses

Allied Ships
xAKL Kolambugan, Torpedo hits 1, and is sunk



On the ground, the following bases were taken:

Kota Bharu
Kuantan
Mersing
Lingayen
Iba
Aparri
Busuanga
Makin

Invasions were made on
Kudat
Jesselton
Brunei
Miri
Atimonan

Finally, Air Assualts successfully captured Victoria Point and Malaybalay.

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RE: BTS4.6 The Mike and Mike show ends Bristolduke (J) ... - 11/21/2017 9:43:47 AM   
ny59giants


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Status: offline 		Any ship hit with an exploding torpedo shows up on the sunk list, regardless of size of ship.

Malaya: Work to recombine all your divisions there. Don't cross over into Singapore with any divisional components, only full divisions (at least 3 or 4).

I got John to allow more Command HQs to be unrestricted. So, I pair them up with an Army/Corp HQ to allow the possibility of getting the 90% Adjusted AV when attacking a base. So, you should have 25th Army and Southern Army HQs both prepping for Singapore. The 14th Army is for Manila or Bataan. I use the NE Command HQ that is up at Ominato for Luzon. In the days ahead ship it to Luzon. I prep the 16th Army HQ for Batavia and pair it up with Combined Fleet HQ. I choose Batavia over Soerabaja due to the potential terrain bonus you may face there. When it comes to capturing Java, its easy just to land and march your troops everywhere. That takes too much time which you don't have. I've learned that multiple invasions speed up the capture if you have plans for major expansion before the invasion bonus ends.

Nell Recon planes: I love these guys!! I set my factory to build 15/month. However, it automatically upgrades to the Irving recon. Don't allow it to!!

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RE: BTS4.6 The Mike and Mike show ends Bristolduke (J) ... - 11/21/2017 12:54:03 PM   
bristolduke

 

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Status: offline 		Southern Army HQ is landing at Mersing as we speak. Hadn't thought of Combined Fleet for Java. That should help as Java is usually tougher to blitz.

Thanks for the thought on the Nells.

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RE: BTS4.6 The Mike and Mike show ends Bristolduke (J) ... - 11/21/2017 1:38:09 PM   
bristolduke

 

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Overall another good day. However, some bad luck as the risks of these fast invasions was highlighted.

First, unfortunately, is the risk of operating carriers in a confined space. Combined with the fact that it was a Dutch sub not US sub.


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Sub attack near Terempa at 55,80

Japanese Ships
CVL Ryujo, Torpedo hits 4, heavy fires, heavy damage
DD Minegumo
DD Samidare
DD Yudachi
DD Harusame

Allied Ships
SS KXII, hits 2


She didn't survive.

As I indicated, we have complete control of the air over Malaya, but the British did move some air to eastern Borneo. These popped up to disrupt the invasion at Miri

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Afternoon Air attack on TF, near Miri at 64,87

Weather in hex: Light cloud

Raid spotted at 16 NM, estimated altitude 11,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 10 minutes

Allied aircraft
Swordfish I x 4
Vildebeest III x 9

No Allied losses

Japanese Ships
xAK Giyu Maru, Bomb hits 1, on fire
xAKL Kaishi Maru, Bomb hits 1, heavy fires, heavy damage
APD Aoi, Bomb hits 1, heavy fires, heavy damage


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Morning Air attack on TF, near Miri at 64,87

Weather in hex: Light rain

Raid spotted at 12 NM, estimated altitude 7,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 7 minutes

Allied aircraft
Vildebeest III x 4

No Allied losses

Japanese Ships
xAKL Kaishi Maru, Bomb hits 2, heavy fires, heavy damage

Fortunately, most of the troops had already been off-loaded.

Other than those setbacks, the overall plan was proceeding almost perfectly. The subs again had a good day.


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Submarine attack near Palembang at 49,91

Japanese Ships
SS RO-33

Allied Ships
TK Basilea, Torpedo hits 1

TK Basilea is sighted by SS RO-33
SS RO-33 launches 2 torpedoes at TK Basilea


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Sub attack near Billiton at 52,92

Japanese Ships
SS I-155

Allied Ships
CM Willem v d Zaan, Torpedo hits 1, on fire, heavy damage


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Submarine attack near Toboali at 50,93

Japanese Ships
SS I-159

Allied Ships
TK Basilea, Torpedo hits 1

TK Basilea is sighted by SS I-159
SS I-159 launches 2 torpedoes at TK Basilea



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Sub attack near Tandjoengbalai at 47,77

Japanese Ships
SS I-160

Allied Ships
HDML Pennigat, Torpedo hits 1, heavy damage


I split one of my surface combat fleets into two fleets to patrol the Sulu Sea for the Manila escapees. They had an excellent day of gunnery practice.


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Night Time Surface Combat, near Puerto Princesa at 74,84, Range 9,000 Yards

Japanese Ships
CA Mogami
CL Niyodo
DD Usugumo
DD Hatsuyuki

Allied Ships
TK Hai Kwang, Shell hits 3, Torpedo hits 1, and is sunk


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Night Time Surface Combat, near Puerto Princesa at 75,84, Range 11,000 Yards

Japanese Ships
CA Mogami
CL Niyodo
DD Usugumo
DD Hatsuyuki

Allied Ships
ACM Colonel Harrison, Shell hits 12, and is sunk

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Night Time Surface Combat, near Jolo at 73,87, Range 9,000 Yards

Japanese Ships
CA Mikuma
CL Ishikari
DD Fubuki
DD Shirayuki

Allied Ships
xAKL Princess of Negros, Shell hits 10, and is sunk


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Day Time Surface Combat, near Puerto Princesa at 74,85, Range 23,000 Yards

Japanese Ships
CA Mogami
CL Niyodo
DD Usugumo
DD Hatsuyuki

Allied Ships
TK Manatawny, Shell hits 20, and is sunk

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Day Time Surface Combat, near Puerto Princesa at 74,85, Range 23,000 Yards

Japanese Ships
CA Mogami
CL Niyodo
DD Usugumo
DD Hatsuyuki

Allied Ships
AM Tanager, Shell hits 4, and is sunk

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Day Time Surface Combat, near Zamboanga at 75,86, Range 23,000 Yards

Japanese Ships
CA Mogami
CL Niyodo
DD Usugumo
DD Hatsuyuki

Allied Ships
xAKL Magallanes, Shell hits 4, and is sunk

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Day Time Surface Combat, near Puerto Princesa at 75,85, Range 23,000 Yards

Japanese Ships
CA Mikuma
CL Ishikari
DD Fubuki
DD Shirayuki

Allied Ships
AM Bittern, Shell hits 6, and is sunk

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Day Time Surface Combat, near Puerto Princesa at 75,85, Range 19,000 Yards

Japanese Ships
CA Mikuma
CL Ishikari
DD Fubuki
DD Shirayuki

Allied Ships
xAKL Sarangami, Shell hits 8, and is sunk

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Day Time Surface Combat, near Puerto Princesa at 75,85, Range 21,000 Yards

Japanese Ships
CA Mikuma
CL Ishikari
DD Fubuki
DD Shirayuki

Allied Ships
xAK Ravnaas, Shell hits 23, and is sunk


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Day Time Surface Combat, near Puerto Princesa at 75,85, Range 20,000 Yards

Japanese Ships
CA Mikuma
CL Ishikari
DD Fubuki
DD Shirayuki

Allied Ships AKL Bisayas, Shell hits 8, and is sunk


Land based and carrier based aircraft also had opportunities.


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Morning Air attack on TF, near Talaud-eilanden at 81,95

Weather in hex: Heavy rain

Raid spotted at 20 NM, estimated altitude 12,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 7 minutes

Japanese aircraft
A5M4 Claude x 12
B5N1 Kate x 3
D3A1 Val x 10

Japanese aircraft losses
D3A1 Val: 1 damaged

Allied Ships
xAKL Cebu, Bomb hits 3, and is sunk
xAKL Latouche, Bomb hits 1, heavy fires


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Morning Air attack on TF, near Donggala at 67,97

Weather in hex: Clear sky

Raid spotted at 19 NM, estimated altitude 12,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 7 minutes

Japanese aircraft
A6M2 Zero x 19
B5N2 Kate x 7

No Japanese losses

Allied Ships
CM Prins van Oranje, Torpedo hits 3, and is sunk


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Morning Air attack on TF, near Sangi at 75,95

Weather in hex: Severe storms

Raid spotted at 8 NM, estimated altitude 13,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 3 minutes

Japanese aircraft
A6M2 Zero x 19
B5N2 Kate x 8

No Japanese losses

Allied Ships
AG Gold Star, Torpedo hits 3, and is sunk


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Afternoon Air attack on TF, near Georgetown at 49,74

Weather in hex: Heavy cloud

Raid spotted at 11 NM, estimated altitude 12,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 3 minutes

Japanese aircraft
G4M1 Betty x 10

Allied aircraft
Buffalo I x 7

Japanese aircraft losses
G4M1 Betty: 2 destroyed, 7 damaged

No Allied losses

Allied Ships
xAP Hong Siang
xAKL Raub, Bomb hits 1, heavy fires, heavy damage


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Afternoon Air attack on TF, near Georgetown at 49,74

Weather in hex: Heavy cloud

Raid spotted at 11 NM, estimated altitude 8,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 3 minutes

Japanese aircraft
Ki-48-Ib Lily x 8

Allied aircraft
Buffalo I x 3

No Japanese losses

No Allied losses

Allied Ships
xAKL Raub, heavy fires, heavy damage
xAKL Nam Yong, Bomb hits 1, on fire


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Afternoon Air attack on TF, near Georgetown at 49,74

Weather in hex: Heavy cloud

Raid spotted at 5 NM, estimated altitude 20,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 1 minutes

Japanese aircraft
Ki-27b Nate x 34

No Japanese losses

Allied Ships
AMc Medusa, Bomb hits 5, and is sunk

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Afternoon Air attack on TF, near Legaspi at 90,82

Weather in hex: Light cloud

Raid spotted at 19 NM, estimated altitude 13,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 6 minutes

Japanese aircraft
A6M2 Zero x 46
D3A1 Val x 24

No Japanese losses

Allied Ships
xAKL Escalante, Bomb hits 5, and is sunk
xAKL Taurus, Bomb hits 9, and is sunk


On the ground we captured
Jesselton
Brunei
Tarawa
Kudat
Guam
and Johore Bahru isolating Singapore.

There were invasions at
Davao
Miri
Vigan


The failure to take Singkawang and/or Kuching may impact the follow-on efforts, so we moved a sentai of zeros to Johore Bahru just in case.


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RE: BTS4.6 The Mike and Mike show ends Bristolduke (J) ... - 11/21/2017 3:20:01 PM   
John 3rd


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Good pace with landings and invasions.

What are your plans for SoPac and NoPac?


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RE: BTS4.6 The Mike and Mike show ends Bristolduke (J) ... - 11/22/2017 1:26:42 AM   
Bif1961


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Status: offline 		Yes the 48 AC CVL hurts, did you get any of the planes off before it went down, or was it torpedoed at night?

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RE: BTS4.6 The Mike and Mike show ends Bristolduke (J) ... - 11/22/2017 12:52:03 PM   
bristolduke

 

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ORIGINAL: Bif1961

Yes the 48 AC CVL hurts, did you get any of the planes off before it went down, or was it torpedoed at night?


There were no survivors :(

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RE: BTS4.6 The Mike and Mike show ends Bristolduke (J) ... - 11/22/2017 1:06:45 PM   
bristolduke

 

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ORIGINAL: John 3rd

What are your plans for SoPac and NoPac?



That's the key question. I usually go after Adak at the beginning, but will all the new assets decided I would need a solid effort to take control of the area, so it would wait.

After the initial set of invasions, what is next? Certainly we will be finishing off Java at the start of the year. Midway, Wake Island and Rabaul operations are already underway. as it would be nice to lure the Allied carriers out.

I have a chance to have a VP majority by the end of Dec. So the fastest way to auto victory would be where? I've never tried to take Pearl, but it would seem the best approach along with expansion in to So Pac. I have never been a fan of an Indian expansion as it seems contrary to Japanese thinking, plus it gets a lot of resources off in a corner of the war effort.

Some advancement to Aus. will be necessary but it will not be a large focus. Which I think leads us back to south pacific and eventually Pearl. My guess is the earlier I go after Pearl the better.

Thoughts anyone?

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RE: BTS4.6 The Mike and Mike show ends Bristolduke (J) ... - 11/22/2017 3:44:18 PM   
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quote:

ORIGINAL: bristolduke

Dec 9

Overall another good day. However, some bad luck as the risks of these fast invasions was highlighted.

First, unfortunately, is the risk of operating carriers in a confined space. Combined with the fact that it was a Dutch sub not US sub.


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Sub attack near Terempa at 55,80

Japanese Ships
CVL Ryujo, Torpedo hits 4, heavy fires, heavy damage
DD Minegumo
DD Samidare
DD Yudachi
DD Harusame

Allied Ships
SS KXII, hits 2


She didn't survive.

As I indicated, we have complete control of the air over Malaya, but the British did move some air to eastern Borneo. These popped up to disrupt the invasion at Miri

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Afternoon Air attack on TF, near Miri at 64,87

Weather in hex: Light cloud

Raid spotted at 16 NM, estimated altitude 11,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 10 minutes

Allied aircraft
Swordfish I x 4
Vildebeest III x 9

No Allied losses

Japanese Ships
xAK Giyu Maru, Bomb hits 1, on fire
xAKL Kaishi Maru, Bomb hits 1, heavy fires, heavy damage
APD Aoi, Bomb hits 1, heavy fires, heavy damage


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Morning Air attack on TF, near Miri at 64,87

Weather in hex: Light rain

Raid spotted at 12 NM, estimated altitude 7,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 7 minutes

Allied aircraft
Vildebeest III x 4

No Allied losses

Japanese Ships
xAKL Kaishi Maru, Bomb hits 2, heavy fires, heavy damage

Fortunately, most of the troops had already been off-loaded.



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I never witnessed a 4 fish spread all at target , while target escorted by 4 escorts
(and hope to never to in future). And, I guess, you were sailing at mission speed, right?

I think this as mostly unrealistic (and so it would have been even if I were the side enjoying the coup); I remember some quote or statistic somewhere, according to which the fastest vessel ever hit by torpedo in the war was steaming at 22 -23 knots?, and that a British light cruiser hit by an acoustic torpedo.


P.s. edit: hey, but you've been really unfortunate here, 3 hits by 9 Vildebeest and Swordfish flying at 10 angels, what's going on here??

< Message edited by adarbrauner -- 11/22/2017 3:50:27 PM >

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RE: BTS4.6 The Mike and Mike show ends Bristolduke (J) ... - 11/23/2017 12:10:33 PM   
bristolduke

 

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Status: offline 		Yea, it was mission speed and there were more escorts, the op report only chose those 4. I try to pretend there are no dice rolls here, because if it were I know I would be unlucky. That in combination with my lack of expertise in the game mechanics means there will be bumps in the road.

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RE: BTS4.6 The Mike and Mike show ends Bristolduke (J) ... - 11/23/2017 12:51:05 PM   
bristolduke

 

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Not going to list all the combat reports here as it was a day of lots of activity and some positives on both sides. Mike and Mike's decision to leverage the east Borneo air bases should be applauded as it has produced some results. Maybe not to the extent they usually produce in Malaya, but there are no zeros operating in the area at the moment. I thought they were at Tarakan and tried to take out the base but weather cancelled the operation. Will try again. However, when we captured Miri I noticed we also destroyed a Vildebeest III. We also captured Vigan and Atimonan. Invasions occurred at Davao and Cagayan on Mindanao and Ternate. Additionally, we established a beachhead on Singapore and began the Hong Kong assualt.

So basically the Malayan front is quiet except for some sub activity, each side having some success against merchant shipping. We did find part of Force Z hiding in Pontianak and some damage inflicted, nothing fatal. There is still some minor air activity around Georgetown, but no shipping was found at port there.

The main activity is eastern Borneo. 3 Swordfish and 4 Vildebeest caused some difficulties. In addition to the shipping hits, one of the raiding TF was pulled close enough to damage the CA Mikuma, Bomb hits 2 and DD Shirayuki, Bomb hits 1, so they are pulling out. Besides our shipping hits with the raiding forces was finding the last remnants of the US fleet (CA Houston and DD Pope) was engaged in a surface fight with both sinking. However, there was aside affect to this. Since we didn't know where they were hiding and thought they may still have been near Cebu we had TF supporting the Cagayan invasion to guard against this possibility. Thus there was no air cover for Ternate. After the landings had taken place the allies responded with two attacks with 31 Banshees crippling most of the transports. A quick withdrawal of the remaining TF is underway. We do expect the invasion to be affected.

This has been a theme for Mike and Mike. A quick withdrawal from the strategically key bases and counter attacks at smaller areas, albeit less protected.

We are still on our timetable and I believe meeting those initial objectives. Our losses have been slight, with the exception of the CVL. The one geographic exception is Singkawang and Kuching. We will need to secure those bases quickly.

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RE: BTS4.6 The Mike and Mike show ends Bristolduke (J) ... - 11/23/2017 1:51:59 PM   
ny59giants


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Status: offline 		Warning: When you normally capture a base with Heavy Industry (HI), half of it is destroyed. However, if the base is empty of enemy troops or auto flips to Japan then it is totally destroyed [down to (0)1]. I had that happen to me at many bases in southern India. I'm posting this in both AARs. I would suggest that any base with HI have to have some Allied troops there to prevent this.

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RE: BTS4.6 The Mike and Mike show ends Bristolduke (J) ... - 11/26/2017 11:43:30 PM   
bristolduke

 

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ORIGINAL: ny59giants

Warning: When you normally capture a base with Heavy Industry (HI), half of it is destroyed. However, if the base is empty of enemy troops or auto flips to Japan then it is totally destroyed [down to (0)1]. I had that happen to me at many bases in southern India. I'm posting this in both AARs. I would suggest that any base with HI have to have some Allied troops there to prevent this.



Thanks for the info.

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RE: BTS4.6 The Mike and Mike show ends Bristolduke (J) ... - 11/27/2017 12:43:34 AM   
bristolduke

 

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The last western South China Sea invasion was undertaken on the 10th. Palembang!

The invasion fleet was covered by a surface fleet which a hapless escapee found.

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Night Time Surface Combat, near Palembang at 49,90, Range 11,000 Yards

Japanese Ships
BB Nagato
BB Mutsu
BB Tosa
CL Jintsu
DD Oshio
DD Michishio

Allied Ships
CMc Pro Patria, Shell hits 1, and is sunk

Since the fleets were spotted we also had air cover near by to help protect. The Allies threw a lot at the force despite the bad weather, which failed to help mcuh.

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Morning Air attack on TF, near Palembang at 48,91

Weather in hex: Severe storms

Raid spotted at 20 NM, estimated altitude 7,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 7 minutes

Japanese aircraft
A6M2 Zero x 7

Allied aircraft
139WH-3 x 21
B-339D x 9

No Japanese losses

Allied aircraft losses
139WH-3: 2 damaged
B-339D: 2 destroyed

Japanese Ships
xAK Heito Maru
xAK Tarushima Maru
xAK Kasuga Maru #2
DD Asashio

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Morning Air attack on TF, near Palembang at 48,91

Weather in hex: Severe storms

Raid spotted at 9 NM, estimated altitude 4,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 3 minutes

Japanese aircraft
A6M2 Zero x 2

Allied aircraft
139WH-3 x 8

No Japanese losses

Allied aircraft losses
139WH-3: 1 destroyed, 4 damaged

Japanese Ships
xAK Kozan Maru
xAK Hino Maru #3

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Afternoon Air attack on TF, near Palembang at 48,91

Weather in hex: Overcast

Raid spotted at 20 NM, estimated altitude 6,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 7 minutes

Japanese aircraft
A6M2 Zero x 9

Allied aircraft
139WH-3 x 8

No Japanese losses

Allied aircraft losses
139WH-3: 1 damaged

Japanese Ships
xAK Kasuga Maru #2
xAK Taito Maru
xAK Tarushima Maru


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Afternoon Air attack on TF, near Palembang at 48,91

Weather in hex: Overcast

Raid spotted at 15 NM, estimated altitude 6,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 5 minutes

Japanese aircraft
A6M2 Zero x 9

Allied aircraft
139WH-3 x 6
B-339D x 1

No Japanese losses

Allied aircraft losses
139WH-3: 1 destroyed


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Afternoon Air attack on TF, near Palembang at 48,91

Weather in hex: Overcast

Raid spotted at 1 NM, estimated altitude 1,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 0 minutes

Japanese aircraft
A6M2 Zero x 4

Allied aircraft
139WH-3 x 8

No Japanese losses

Allied aircraft losses
139WH-3: 1 damaged

Japanese Ships
xAK Taito Maru
xAK Manko Maru


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Afternoon Air attack on TF, near Palembang at 48,91

Weather in hex: Overcast

Raid spotted at 18 NM, estimated altitude 9,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 11 minutes

Japanese aircraft
A6M2 Zero x 2

Allied aircraft
Vildebeest III x 14
CW-21B Demon x 12

No Japanese losses

No Allied losses

Japanese Ships
xAK Senko Maru, Bomb hits 4, heavy fires
xAK Kozan Maru, Bomb hits 3, heavy fires, heavy damage
xAK Manko Maru
DD Arashio

We were hoping to secure the base the following day, but all news on that front was poor.


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Night Time Surface Combat, near Palembang at 49,90, Range 9,000 Yards

Japanese Ships
BB Nagato
BB Mutsu
BB Tosa
CL Jintsu
DD Oshio
DD Michishio

Allied Ships
xAP Kedah, Shell hits 2, and is sunk




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Morning Air attack on TF, near Palembang at 48,91

Weather in hex: Partial cloud

Raid spotted at 18 NM, estimated altitude 6,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 11 minutes

Japanese aircraft
A6M2 Zero x 9

Allied aircraft
Swordfish I x 4
Vildebeest III x 20
CW-21B Demon x 12

No Japanese losses

Allied aircraft losses
Swordfish I: 1 destroyed by flak
CW-21B Demon: 1 destroyed

Japanese Ships
xAK Manko Maru, Bomb hits 1, on fire
xAK Tarushima Maru, Bomb hits 2, on fire
xAK Kasuga Maru #2, Bomb hits 3, on fire
xAK Hino Maru #3, Bomb hits 3, heavy fires, heavy damage
xAK Heito Maru, Bomb hits 1, on fire

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Morning Air attack on TF, near Palembang at 48,91

Weather in hex: Partial cloud

Raid spotted at 16 NM, estimated altitude 14,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 6 minutes

Japanese aircraft
A6M2 Zero x 6

Allied aircraft
A-24 Banshee x 25

No Japanese losses

Allied aircraft losses
A-24 Banshee: 3 destroyed, 2 damaged

Japanese Ships
xAK Tarushima Maru, Bomb hits 1, heavy fires, heavy damage
xAK Manko Maru, on fire


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Afternoon Air attack on TF, near Palembang at 48,91

Weather in hex: Severe storms

Raid spotted at 20 NM, estimated altitude 9,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 13 minutes

Japanese aircraft
A6M2 Zero x 7

Allied aircraft
Swordfish I x 3
Vildebeest III x 16
CW-21B Demon x 4

No Japanese losses

Allied aircraft losses
Swordfish I: 1 destroyed
Vildebeest III: 2 destroyed
CW-21B Demon: 1 destroyed

Japanese Ships
xAK Kasuga Maru #2, heavy fires
xAK Manko Maru, on fire
xAK Taito Maru
xAK Heito Maru, Bomb hits 1, on fire


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Afternoon Air attack on TF, near Palembang at 48,91

Weather in hex: Severe storms

Raid spotted at 20 NM, estimated altitude 6,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 13 minutes

Japanese aircraft
A6M2 Zero x 3

Allied aircraft
Vildebeest III x 4

No Japanese losses

Allied aircraft losses
Vildebeest III: 1 destroyed, 3 damaged

Japanese Ships
xAK Taito Maru


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Afternoon Air attack on TF, near Palembang at 48,91

Weather in hex: Severe storms

Raid spotted at 20 NM, estimated altitude 13,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 7 minutes

Japanese aircraft
A6M2 Zero x 1

Allied aircraft
A-24 Banshee x 16

No Japanese losses

Allied aircraft losses
A-24 Banshee: 1 destroyed


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Ground combat at Palembang (48,91)

Japanese Shock attack

Attacking force 6666 troops, 42 guns, 0 vehicles, Assault Value = 171

Defending force 2373 troops, 26 guns, 12 vehicles, Assault Value = 69

Japanese adjusted assault: 127

Allied adjusted defense: 73

Japanese assault odds: 1 to 1 (fort level 1)

Japanese Assault reduces fortifications to 0

Combat modifiers
Defender: terrain(+), preparation(-), experience(-)
Attacker: shock(+)

Japanese ground losses:
496 casualties reported
Squads: 2 destroyed, 34 disabled
Non Combat: 1 destroyed, 3 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 1 disabled
Guns lost 3 (1 destroyed, 2 disabled)

Allied ground losses:
262 casualties reported
Squads: 0 destroyed, 30 disabled
Non Combat: 0 destroyed, 9 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled

Disappointing, but I hope to finish it off tomorrow. What remains of the invasion fleet will be leaving before dawn.


We had invasions at Manado, but assualts at Singapore, Hong Kong, Clark Fiels, Cagayan a dnDavao all failed to secure bases. The assualt at Ternate was successful. The cruiser TF which attacked Turnate found nothing and then quickly retreated.

There were several destructions of loose merchant ships throughtout the are. The most intersting was the AK Ming Sang which decided to try to run for safety to the south of Cam Rahn Bay, unsuccessfully.

The other surprise was in China


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Ground combat at Ichang (83,48)

Allied Shock attack

Attacking force 63013 troops, 349 guns, 0 vehicles, Assault Value = 1686

Defending force 15828 troops, 116 guns, 24 vehicles, Assault Value = 517

Allied adjusted assault: 1504

Japanese adjusted defense: 254

Allied assault odds: 5 to 1 (fort level 3)

Allied forces CAPTURE Ichang !!!

Combat modifiers
Defender: forts(+), leaders(-), fatigue(-), experience(-)
Attacker: shock(+)

Japanese ground losses:
5072 casualties reported
Squads: 170 destroyed, 85 disabled
Non Combat: 152 destroyed, 35 disabled
Engineers: 33 destroyed, 4 disabled
Guns lost 62 (49 destroyed, 13 disabled)
Vehicles lost 16 (16 destroyed, 0 disabled)
Units retreated 2

Allied ground losses:
1907 casualties reported
Squads: 17 destroyed, 321 disabled
Non Combat: 1 destroyed, 22 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 7 disabled
Guns lost 19 (2 destroyed, 17 disabled)

Defeated Japanese Units Retreating!

Assaulting units:
68th Chinese Corps
2nd Chinese Corps
67th Chinese Corps
45th Chinese Corps
32nd Chinese Corps
8th Chinese Corps
75th Chinese Corps
26th Group Army

Defending units:
34th Division
13th RGC Temp. Division

I have been forced out of Ichang, but usually the forts and ofrces withstand a more prolong attack. Given all of our failures of the day, but was obviously a bad dice day.

On the 12th, things changed a bit as we captured Clark Field

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Ground combat at Clark Field (79,76)

Japanese Shock attack

Attacking force 22479 troops, 121 guns, 267 vehicles, Assault Value = 783

Defending force 9490 troops, 58 guns, 6 vehicles, Assault Value = 174

Japanese adjusted assault: 703

Allied adjusted defense: 97

Japanese assault odds: 7 to 1 (fort level 0)

Japanese forces CAPTURE Clark Field !!!

Combat modifiers
Defender: terrain(+), preparation(-), experience(-)
Attacker: shock(+)

Japanese ground losses:
752 casualties reported
Squads: 13 destroyed, 59 disabled
Non Combat: 0 destroyed, 7 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled
Guns lost 6 (1 destroyed, 5 disabled)

Allied ground losses:
3576 casualties reported
Squads: 105 destroyed, 74 disabled
Non Combat: 155 destroyed, 27 disabled
Engineers: 7 destroyed, 1 disabled
Guns lost 41 (31 destroyed, 10 disabled)
Vehicles lost 8 (8 destroyed, 0 disabled)
Units retreated 6
Units destroyed 1

We also too an undefended Tuguegarao.


With almost a week complete, it is obvious that Mike and Mike are a formidable team. That they will contest, at least in the fringes. This is important because week 2 of the offensive adds in the element of cat and mouse.

Invasions in Balkpapan and Tarakan are on their way. They should have occurred on the 12th but all the carnage in the Sulu Sea caused them to change their orders and try to sail around the Philippines. I wound up having to use wavepoints to stop this them and get back on track. Our air attack at Tarakan was successful but found no planes. While we have the base surrounded, it will still be formidable to take.

Balkpapan is a trap waiting to happen (I have been stung there a couple of times), thus the order of the invading forces and their timimg must be precise. A submarine screen covers the southern entrance to the Makassar Straight. A covering force will preceed the invasion force and both will have air cover. Mine sweeps are included although I don't know if he has had enough time to mine the port. In order to that all in position will take a day or two.

That will end the initial southwestern pacific invasions. A little regroup will be needed before the assualt on Java, hopefully at the end of the month. The fun operation now moves to the pacific. If and how will Mimke and Mike defend. My ideal outcome will be a carrier battle which eliminates the US carriers. That will ensure free reign thru the islands. It is highly unlikely they will accomodate that strategy. But can they be lured? The typical invasions at Hollandia, Altape, Wewak and Kavieng are underway. Tarawa and Makin are already complete. Their first surprise was the arrival of a couple of DD off Tarawa destroying the TF finishing the supply unload. He has to have a carrier nearby. I've seen the carrier raids in the Marshalls before. Annoying but not fatal. Still the Rabaul invasion force is underway and I would not like to see it "surprised".

The KB has been sailing back to the pacific and has been replenished. Invasion forces for Wake and Midway islands are underway. Wake will arrive first on 14th. I brought them in from thr south so there was some air protection, in case Mike and Mike were real aggressive, I haven't seen anything yet. Will they try to surprise me at Wake? Will they even contest Midway? Obviously, I would like both to be true. The KB will be in range to defend Wake tomorrow and we could attack a force to the east the following day. We will attack Wake and then proceed to Midway. With luck we will get our "decisive" battle.





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RE: BTS4.6 The Mike and Mike show ends Bristolduke (J) ... - 11/27/2017 7:17:40 AM   
ny59giants


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Status: offline 		Beware of the Dutch CD guns at Tarakan, Balikpapan, and Ambon. I would strongly suggest that at least a pair of CAs and/or BBs be in the Amphib TF. I would load one Amphib TF with the troops and minimal supply. I would load a second TF with just supplies in xAKs. Then, I would combine them and add the large warships. If not, then you will have many transports sunk by those CD guns. I also add in a pair of DMS to sweep any mines. Rinse, repeat!

KB: When you mention them sailing around the eastern Pacific, what do you mean?? KB 1, 2, and 3 are two heavy CVs and a CVL each. 1 & 3 were for Pearl and 2 was at Babeldoab. He gets the 4th American CV at end of Dec with a full size CVL. I usually take off the old, slow TBs and add Marine fighters and SBDs. The Allies can now re-size their groups rather than go through a set of changes throughout the game. "IF" he forms Death Star along with the assets he has in SoPac at start, they can take on one and maybe two parts of KB.

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RE: BTS4.6 The Mike and Mike show ends Bristolduke (J) ... - 11/27/2017 12:24:22 PM   
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Status: offline 		There are ways to hold Ichang, but most IJ players consider the expense of doing so to be too high and will generally cede it rather than defend it.

On the flip side, most allied players will not take it because it pulls their units out of favorable terrain and in the wrong direction for defense.



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RE: BTS4.6 The Mike and Mike show ends Bristolduke (J) ... - 12/4/2017 1:39:18 AM   
bristolduke

 

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The fun element during this time was the battle for Balikpapan. It should be over by now but instead hasn't really started although there has been lots of action.

There have been lots of successes over the four days (mostly the 13-15).

Ground combat at Manado (75,99)

Japanese Shock attack

Attacking force 4296 troops, 19 guns, 0 vehicles, Assault Value = 126

Defending force 1870 troops, 13 guns, 3 vehicles, Assault Value = 30

Japanese adjusted assault: 86

Allied adjusted defense: 13

Japanese assault odds: 6 to 1 (fort level 0)

Japanese forces CAPTURE Manado !!!

Combat modifiers
Defender: terrain(+), preparation(-), morale(-), experience(-)
Attacker: shock(+)

Japanese ground losses:
137 casualties reported
Squads: 0 destroyed, 17 disabled
Non Combat: 0 destroyed, 1 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled

Allied ground losses:
807 casualties reported
Squads: 26 destroyed, 0 disabled
Non Combat: 35 destroyed, 9 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled
Guns lost 3 (3 destroyed, 0 disabled)
Vehicles lost 4 (4 destroyed, 0 disabled)
Units retreated 2

Defeated Allied Units Retreating!

Assaulting units:
90th Infantry Regiment
8th JNAF Coy

Defending units:
Manado RK Cdo
Manado Mil'ie Cdo

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Ground combat at Palembang (48,91)

Japanese Shock attack

Attacking force 6396 troops, 41 guns, 0 vehicles, Assault Value = 145

Defending force 2153 troops, 26 guns, 12 vehicles, Assault Value = 45

Japanese adjusted assault: 61

Allied adjusted defense: 28

Japanese assault odds: 2 to 1 (fort level 0)

Japanese forces CAPTURE Palembang !!!

Combat modifiers
Defender: terrain(+), leaders(-), preparation(-), experience(-)
Attacker: shock(+)

Japanese ground losses:
647 casualties reported
Squads: 5 destroyed, 67 disabled
Non Combat: 0 destroyed, 6 disabled
Engineers: 1 destroyed, 0 disabled
Guns lost 6 (1 destroyed, 5 disabled)

Allied ground losses:
762 casualties reported
Squads: 13 destroyed, 8 disabled
Non Combat: 39 destroyed, 9 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled
Guns lost 19 (18 destroyed, 1 disabled)
Vehicles lost 14 (14 destroyed, 0 disabled)
Units retreated 5
Units destroyed 1

Defeated Allied Units Retreating!

Assaulting units:
I/124th Infantry Battalion
II/124th Infantry Battalion
III/124th Infantry Battalion
11th Special Base Force

Defending units:
Palembang Cdo
Lahat Cdo
W Borneo KNIL Bn /1
Palembang ML Base Force
PBg-Ld AA Afd
224 Group RAF /1

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Ground combat at Kavieng (106,122)

Japanese Shock attack

Attacking force 510 troops, 3 guns, 0 vehicles, Assault Value = 16

Defending force 275 troops, 0 guns, 0 vehicles, Assault Value = 11

Japanese adjusted assault: 18

Allied adjusted defense: 7

Japanese assault odds: 2 to 1 (fort level 0)

Japanese forces CAPTURE Kavieng !!!

Combat modifiers
Defender: terrain(+), leaders(+), leaders(-), preparation(-)
Attacker: shock(+)

Japanese ground losses:
95 casualties reported
Squads: 2 destroyed, 4 disabled
Non Combat: 0 destroyed, 3 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled

Allied ground losses:
71 casualties reported
Squads: 1 destroyed, 2 disabled
Non Combat: 2 destroyed, 0 disabled
Engineers: 1 destroyed, 0 disabled
Units retreated 1

Defeated Allied Units Retreating!

Assaulting units:
I/66th Naval Guard Unit

Defending units:
2/1st Ind Coy


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Ground combat at Hollandia (93,116)

Japanese Deliberate attack

Attacking force 629 troops, 0 guns, 0 vehicles, Assault Value = 8

Defending force 0 troops, 0 guns, 0 vehicles, Assault Value = 0

Japanese adjusted assault: 3

Allied adjusted defense: 1

Japanese assault odds: 3 to 1 (fort level 1)

Japanese forces CAPTURE Hollandia !!!

Combat modifiers
Attacker: leaders(-)

Assaulting units:
2nd JNAF Coy


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Ground combat at Hong Kong (77,61)

Japanese Shock attack

Attacking force 32389 troops, 391 guns, 208 vehicles, Assault Value = 841

Defending force 6988 troops, 123 guns, 72 vehicles, Assault Value = 124

Japanese adjusted assault: 608

Allied adjusted defense: 165

Japanese assault odds: 3 to 1 (fort level 0)

Japanese forces CAPTURE Hong Kong !!!

Combat modifiers
Defender: terrain(+), experience(-)
Attacker: shock(+)

Japanese ground losses:
227 casualties reported
Squads: 3 destroyed, 46 disabled
Non Combat: 0 destroyed, 2 disabled
Engineers: 4 destroyed, 5 disabled

Allied ground losses:
8595 casualties reported
Squads: 211 destroyed, 0 disabled
Non Combat: 461 destroyed, 0 disabled
Engineers: 24 destroyed, 0 disabled
Guns lost 156 (156 destroyed, 0 disabled)
Vehicles lost 62 (62 destroyed, 0 disabled)
Units destroyed 6

Assaulting units:
38th Division
66th Infantry Regiment
104th Division
20th Ind Com Engineer Regiment
2nd RF Gun Battalion
1st Hvy.Artillery Regiment
2nd Ind.Hvy.Art. Battalion
19th Ind Com Engineer Regiment
5th RF Gun Battalion
10th Ind. Mountain Gun Regiment
3rd Ind.Hvy.Art. Battalion
2nd Mortar Battalion
20th Ind. Mtn Gun Battalion

Defending units:
1st Middlesex Battalion
Rifles of Canada Battalion
Kowloon Brigade
Winnipeg Grenadiers Battalion
102nd RN Base Force
Hong Kong Fortress

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Ground combat at Aitape (95,118)

Japanese Deliberate attack

Attacking force 621 troops, 0 guns, 0 vehicles, Assault Value = 8

Defending force 0 troops, 0 guns, 0 vehicles, Assault Value = 0

Japanese adjusted assault: 5

Allied adjusted defense: 1

Japanese assault odds: 5 to 1 (fort level 0)

Japanese forces CAPTURE Aitape !!!

Combat modifiers
Attacker: leaders(-)

Assaulting units:
5th JNAF Coy


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Ground combat at Wewak (96,119)

Japanese Deliberate attack

Attacking force 630 troops, 0 guns, 0 vehicles, Assault Value = 9

Defending force 0 troops, 0 guns, 0 vehicles, Assault Value = 0

Japanese adjusted assault: 10

Allied adjusted defense: 1

Japanese assault odds: 10 to 1 (fort level 0)

Japanese forces CAPTURE Wewak !!!

Combat modifiers
Attacker:

Assaulting units:
9th JNAF Coy


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Ground combat at Singapore (50,84)

Japanese Deliberate attack

Attacking force 28906 troops, 384 guns, 347 vehicles, Assault Value = 1072

Defending force 20799 troops, 258 guns, 127 vehicles, Assault Value = 68

Japanese adjusted assault: 1034

Allied adjusted defense: 171

Japanese assault odds: 6 to 1 (fort level 0)

Japanese forces CAPTURE Singapore !!!

Allied aircraft
no flights

Allied aircraft losses
Buffalo I: 1 destroyed
Vildebeest III: 1 destroyed
Hurricane IIb Trop: 2 destroyed

Combat modifiers
Defender: terrain(+), preparation(-), morale(-), experience(-)
Attacker:

Japanese ground losses:
306 casualties reported
Squads: 1 destroyed, 30 disabled
Non Combat: 0 destroyed, 5 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 2 disabled
Guns lost 3 (1 destroyed, 2 disabled)
Vehicles lost 10 (1 destroyed, 9 disabled)

Allied ground losses:
23736 casualties reported
Squads: 242 destroyed, 0 disabled
Non Combat: 1448 destroyed, 0 disabled
Engineers: 100 destroyed, 0 disabled
Guns lost 340 (340 destroyed, 0 disabled)
Vehicles lost 157 (157 destroyed, 0 disabled)
Units destroyed 18

Assaulting units:
21st Division
11th Infantry Regiment
Imperial Guards Division
5th Engineer Regiment
5th Recon Regiment
14th Tank Regiment
8th Tank Regiment
11th Tank Regiment
18th Mountain Gun Regiment
14th Ind.Art.Mortar Battalion
5th Field Artillery Regiment
3rd Mortar Battalion
5th Mortar Battalion
25th Army
1st RF Gun Battalion
84th JAAF AF Bn

Defending units:
SSVF Brigade
3rd Cavalry Regiment
2/17 Dogra Battalion
22nd Australian Brigade
1st HK&S Heavy AA Regiment
29 Battery/3 HAA
Malayan Air Wing
III Indian Corps
22nd Indian Mountain Gun Regiment
224 Group RAF
2nd HK&S Heavy AA Regiment
1st Indian Heavy AA Regiment
Singapore Base Force
Singapore Fortress
24th NZ Pioneer Coy
2nd Malay Battalion
Malaya Army
112th RAF Adv Base Force

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Ground combat at San Fernando (80,74)

Japanese Deliberate attack

Attacking force 1297 troops, 12 guns, 0 vehicles, Assault Value = 42

Defending force 0 troops, 0 guns, 0 vehicles, Assault Value = 0

Japanese adjusted assault: 21

Allied adjusted defense: 1

Japanese assault odds: 21 to 1 (fort level 0)

Japanese forces CAPTURE San Fernando !!!

Combat modifiers
Attacker: leaders(-)

Assaulting units:
Kanno


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Ground combat at Cagayan (79,89)

Japanese Deliberate attack

Attacking force 6163 troops, 101 guns, 0 vehicles, Assault Value = 243

Defending force 4244 troops, 11 guns, 0 vehicles, Assault Value = 98

Japanese adjusted assault: 86

Allied adjusted defense: 31

Japanese assault odds: 2 to 1 (fort level 0)

Japanese forces CAPTURE Cagayan !!!

Allied aircraft
no flights

Allied aircraft losses
B-17D Fortress: 1 destroyed

Combat modifiers
Defender: terrain(+), preparation(-), morale(-), experience(-)
Attacker:

Japanese ground losses:
140 casualties reported
Squads: 2 destroyed, 11 disabled
Non Combat: 0 destroyed, 1 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled

Allied ground losses:
1831 casualties reported
Squads: 34 destroyed, 20 disabled
Non Combat: 67 destroyed, 10 disabled
Engineers: 2 destroyed, 0 disabled
Units retreated 5
Units destroyed 1

Assaulting units:
Kimura Det
1st Para Assault Division

Defending units:
2nd PA Infantry Regiment
3rd Constabulary Regiment
Agusan Constab Battalion
Del Monte AAF Base Force
Mindanao Force
205th Base Sqdn


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Ground combat at Davao (79,91)

Japanese Deliberate attack

Attacking force 1107 troops, 8 guns, 0 vehicles, Assault Value = 25

Defending force 1526 troops, 13 guns, 0 vehicles, Assault Value = 33

Japanese adjusted assault: 20

Allied adjusted defense: 10

Japanese assault odds: 2 to 1 (fort level 0)

Japanese forces CAPTURE Davao !!!

Combat modifiers
Defender: terrain(+), leaders(+), preparation(-), morale(-)
experience(-)
Attacker: leaders(+)

Japanese ground losses:
9 casualties reported
Squads: 0 destroyed, 1 disabled
Non Combat: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled

Allied ground losses:
410 casualties reported
Squads: 15 destroyed, 0 disabled
Non Combat: 20 destroyed, 0 disabled
Engineers: 5 destroyed, 0 disabled
Guns lost 5 (5 destroyed, 0 disabled)
Units retreated 2

Defeated Allied Units Retreating!

Assaulting units:
Miura Det

Defending units:
101st PA Infantry Regiment
505th Base Sqdn



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Ground combat at Buin (109,131)

Japanese Deliberate attack

Attacking force 510 troops, 3 guns, 0 vehicles, Assault Value = 16

Defending force 0 troops, 0 guns, 0 vehicles, Assault Value = 0

Japanese adjusted assault: 17

Allied adjusted defense: 1

Japanese assault odds: 17 to 1 (fort level 0)

Japanese forces CAPTURE Buin !!!

Combat modifiers
Attacker: leaders(+)

Assaulting units:
II/66th Naval Guard Unit


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Ground combat at Tulagi (114,137)

Japanese Deliberate attack

Attacking force 510 troops, 3 guns, 0 vehicles, Assault Value = 16

Defending force 0 troops, 0 guns, 0 vehicles, Assault Value = 0

Japanese adjusted assault: 9

Allied adjusted defense: 1

Japanese assault odds: 9 to 1 (fort level 0)

Japanese forces CAPTURE Tulagi !!!

Combat modifiers
Attacker: leaders(-)

Assaulting units:
III/66th Naval Guard Unit


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Ground combat at Wake Island (136,98)

Japanese Shock attack

Attacking force 3715 troops, 64 guns, 8 vehicles, Assault Value = 115

Defending force 710 troops, 18 guns, 0 vehicles, Assault Value = 17

Japanese adjusted assault: 83

Allied adjusted defense: 1

Japanese assault odds: 83 to 1 (fort level 1)

Japanese forces CAPTURE Wake Island !!!

Combat modifiers
Defender: leaders(-), disruption(-)
Attacker: shock(+), fatigue(-)

Japanese ground losses:
43 casualties reported
Squads: 0 destroyed, 5 disabled
Non Combat: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled

Allied ground losses:
773 casualties reported
Squads: 35 destroyed, 0 disabled
Non Combat: 33 destroyed, 0 disabled
Engineers: 14 destroyed, 0 disabled
Guns lost 25 (25 destroyed, 0 disabled)
Units destroyed 1

Assaulting units:
1st Maizuru Assault/B Division
1st Maizuru Assault/C Division

Defending units:
Wake (Det.) Defense Battalion


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Ground combat at Cabanatuan (80,76)

Japanese Deliberate attack

Attacking force 384 troops, 0 guns, 71 vehicles, Assault Value = 454

Defending force 4236 troops, 42 guns, 0 vehicles, Assault Value = 124

Japanese adjusted assault: 31

Allied adjusted defense: 15

Japanese assault odds: 2 to 1 (fort level 0)

Japanese forces CAPTURE Cabanatuan !!!

Combat modifiers
Defender: leaders(+), preparation(-), fatigue(-), experience(-)
Attacker:

Allied ground losses:
1033 casualties reported
Squads: 43 destroyed, 0 disabled
Non Combat: 29 destroyed, 0 disabled
Engineers: 8 destroyed, 0 disabled
Guns lost 24 (24 destroyed, 0 disabled)
Units retreated 1

Defeated Allied Units Retreating!

Assaulting units:
9th Tank Regiment
4th Division

Defending units:
11th PA Infantry Division


Each side continues to knock off some support vessels, but we are on the short end of this. Thus far our naval search has not been very effective. We search areas but are then surprised by the marauding TF 2-3 DD/CA. we lost 4 mine sweeps off Palembang and our Rabaul TF was surprised near Manus.

But the real scene of action has been Balikpapan. I continue to have trouble getting the TF to continue on the path, but on the end of the 14th, I had the surface combat fleet just outside the entrance to Balikpapan with react 3. I had the invasion force 3 hexes away (thus a night landing) and I hade the carrier TF 3 hexes to the north with react 0 to bomb the airfield and provide air cover to the invasion TF. 6 subs guarded the entrance to Makassar. No allied fleets were in the area. The battle below occurred the day before and the fleet was withdrawing south.

Morning Air attack on TF, near Balikpapan at 65,98

Weather in hex: Overcast

Raid spotted at 17 NM, estimated altitude 14,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 7 minutes

Japanese aircraft
B5N2 Kate x 10

No Japanese losses

Allied Ships
CL Marblehead, Bomb hits 1, Torpedo hits 1

Aircraft Attacking:
7 x B5N2 Kate bombing from 9000 feet
Naval Attack: 2 x 250 kg SAP Bomb
3 x B5N2 Kate launching torpedoes at 200 feet
Naval Attack: 1 x 45cm Type 91 Torp

What transpired the following day is hard to understand much less describe.

It started with the sub detection.

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ASW attack near Madjene at 63,101

Japanese Ships
SS I-154

Allied Ships
DD John Barry
DD Vendetta
DD Trippe
DD Mayrant

SS I-154 is sighted by escort
DD Trippe fails to find sub and abandons search
DD Mayrant attacking submerged sub ....
DD Mayrant loses contact with SS I-154
DD Mayrant loses contact with SS I-154
DD Mayrant fails to find sub, continues to search...
DD Mayrant fails to find sub, continues to search...
DD Mayrant fails to find sub, continues to search...
DD Mayrant fails to find sub, continues to search...
Escort abandons search for sub

Force Z had been spotted.

It was immediately followed by

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Night Time Surface Combat, near Balikpapan at 65,98, Range 2,000 Yards

Japanese Ships
CVL Karasu, Shell hits 2
CVL Ryukaku
CS Chitose, Shell hits 4, on fire
CS Chiyoda, Shell hits 3
CVL Tokachi
CVL Kushiro, Shell hits 3
DD Kuroshio, Shell hits 1, on fire
DD Oyashio
DD Hatsukaze
DD Natsushio
DD Amatsukaze
DD Hatsuharu

Allied Ships
BC Repulse, Shell hits 4
BC Renown
DD Bulmer
DD Stewart
DD Paul Jones, Shell hits 1
DD Parrott
DD Vendetta, Shell hits 4, Torpedo hits 2, and is sunk
DD John Barry
DD Mayrant
DD Trippe, Shell hits 3, Torpedo hits 3, and is sunk


There was a brief follow up in the morning. (note 1 hex to the north)

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Day Time Surface Combat, near Balikpapan at 66,97, Range 26,000 Yards

Japanese Ships
CVL Karasu
CVL Ryukaku
CS Chitose
CS Chiyoda
CVL Tokachi
CVL Kushiro
DD Kuroshio
DD Oyashio
DD Hatsukaze
DD Natsushio
DD Amatsukaze
DD Hatsuharu

Allied Ships
BC Repulse
BC Renown, Shell hits 1
DD Bulmer
DD Stewart
DD Paul Jones
DD Parrott
DD John Barry
DD Mayrant

The air attack on the airfield went as scheduled

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Morning Air attack on Balikpapan , at 64,97

Weather in hex: Clear sky

Raid spotted at 12 NM, estimated altitude 8,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 3 minutes

Japanese aircraft
A6M2 Zero x 18
B5N2 Kate x 16

Allied aircraft
B-339D x 2

Japanese aircraft losses
A6M2 Zero: 2 damaged

Allied aircraft losses
B-339D: 1 destroyed

Airbase hits 1
Airbase supply hits 1
Runway hits 15

However, no air attack on the task force took place. When the turn ended the carrier TF was another 7 hexes removed.


If I had any map skills, I would put up a picture. but

The initial surface combat was 1 hex away from my surface fleet which moved not at all, but the carrier TF (w/0 react) moved 4 hexes to put up a battle. The invasion fleet moved nothing at all and the morning battle was on the hex they occupied as well. Then of course there is the issue of no naval air attack on a TF in the same hex. At the end of the turn Force Z and the Invasion TF were on the same hex and despite my instructions again choose to withdraw (so did force Z which makes no sense either) So we are still poised 3 hexes away with the invasion fleet, the surface fleet is still covering and the carrier TF has returned to again provide Air cover.

We clearly dodged a bullet, but shouldn't have had to as we were (I thought) well positioned for a Force Z raid. Why would a Surface Combat TF not react with react set at 3 and the opposition ends up next to you? While it worked out well, why did an Air Combat TF with react=0 react? Any why not air attack, the enemy TF was clearly detected?


BTW we attacked Tarakan today as well. Since they did not contest Wake Island, I consider it highly unlikely they will contest Midway. Best guess is a raid in the Marshalls. I may split the KB as there is no real need to send all 6 to Midway.



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RE: BTS4.6 The Mike and Mike show ends Bristolduke (J) ... - 12/4/2017 9:45:56 AM   
John 3rd


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From: La Salle, Colorado
Status: offline 		Bet you nearly had kittens when that STF popped up on your CVLs! I would have uttered an unprintable word and grabbed a shot of something to drink. You got lucky with the results.

I can never truly predict what the heck a TF will do. In my long-running game with Dan, I have lost several BBs and CAs due to them 'hanging' in a location instead of going straight in. HATE IT!

With the Allies having so many more toys, be careful about splitting KB in CenPac.


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RE: BTS4.6 The Mike and Mike show ends Bristolduke (J) ... - 12/4/2017 12:09:40 PM   
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Status: offline 		KUDOS on the rapid capture of Singapore!!

Get those minesweepers over there to clear the mines and shift your forces from Saigon and CRB to this bigger port and base. Then, mine the port yourself from those nasty Dutch subs. Get your ACMs there (converted from PBs).

Heavy Industry in Malaya: I expand G'town to 20 and Sing to 80 steadily. Don't repair any Resources or Manpower anywhere.

Java: Plan on landing here and at multiple bases to ensure speedy conquest. I worry about Allies loading troops in Batavia due to the urban terrain bonus, so I focus here first. Danpasar off SE tip is great for an Air HQ to isolate the island with Nell/Betty.

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