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Tutorial '43 - Combat - 12/5/2017 5:30:33 PM   
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Status: offline 		Right peeps, you know the drill by know where to put the folder/file.

Slides will follow later, but you're free to toy around. Play as Soviets and you got a Guards Airborne Brigade, as well as a quite potent Guards Tank Corps with support troops at your disposal; play the Germans and our old friends from Tutorial '42 and '43 are there - 106th Inf.Div., who's 1st Bn. of each Rgt. got equipped with one company of Panzerfaust units as well as more potent (relatively speaking...) 50mm AT guns. It's going to be a tough call...

The map and the original Kanev '43 scenario were designed by Frederic Schaaff. The scenario itself was based on a great boardgame, Kanev: Parachutes Across the Dnieper, September 1943

https://boardgamegeek.com/boardgame/5264/kanev-parachutes-across-dnepr-september-23-26-1943

Pre-tutorial slides feedback appreciated!

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RE: Tutorial '43 - Combat - Update - 12/5/2017 7:14:38 PM   
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Status: offline 		Some of you might have noticed, that no PO option was available; that has been fixed. Sorry, peeps; I just forgot to set objectives for one formation of the Soviets.

Updated .SCE file attached (zipped).

Fixed: Proficiency for the Gds Airborne units (instead of 33 now 60)
Adjusted: RR bridge in the SE prevented for some reason troop movement; added road.
Adjusted: Relocated supply points.
Fixed: Some minor adjustments to the supply level and dislocation of the units.

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RE: Tutorial '43 - Combat - Update - 12/6/2017 2:59:31 PM   
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RE: Tutorial '43 - Combat - Update - 12/6/2017 5:48:44 PM   
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RE: Tutorial '43 - Combat - Update - 12/7/2017 11:07:19 AM   
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Status: offline 		More slides will show up this afternoon... Please do make sure that you use the latest .SCE file though in order to follow, as close as possible. I'll also publish the .SAL files (zipped) later on. If you already played through or toyed around with it, please do post any forms of feedback and suggestions.

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RE: Tutorial '43 - Combat - Update - 12/7/2017 12:57:55 PM   
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Status: offline 		OK, back to our little problem. We need to eliminate the paras and therefore keep our rear clean in order to get reinforcements (if we get any?!) to counter the main threat; as plain and simple.

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RE: Tutorial '43 - Combat - Update - 12/7/2017 1:03:45 PM   
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Status: offline 		End of turn one; we were able to push them hard near Kanev and will continue to do so.

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RE: Tutorial '43 - Combat - Update - 12/7/2017 1:21:45 PM   
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RE: Tutorial '43 - Combat - Update - 12/7/2017 1:30:15 PM   
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Status: offline 		The situation at T3 and... a good example of the variable turn initiative :) Instead of a Soviet turn, we got to execute our T3 before them; plus we got 1 Grn.Rgt. reinforcements in the SW and we can manage to finally round up the paras near the bridge and the vicinity of Kanev!

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RE: Tutorial '43 - Combat - Update - 12/7/2017 1:37:06 PM   
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Status: offline 		I haven't moved/executed the turn yet, with the exception of the 3 x Aufkl.Kp. (one couldn't disengage though). Well, just to point you to the I/Grn.Rgt.239... and its
goodies. 9 squads go the new Panzerfaust!!! How neat... they're dug-in and we'll see
quite soon how they can inflict some damage on potential soviet tanks (I hope...).

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RE: Tutorial '43 - Combat - Update - 12/7/2017 1:57:54 PM   
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Status: offline 		A bit (O)ff(T)opic: For those of you, and I am sure there are quite many rather than a few, who are wondering how the combat system works 'under the hood'; it's worth examining the toawlog.txt. I use Notepad++ (very good program!) to read the .txt out and use bits even for, well, AARs and kinda little TOAW IV combat report stories. Notice the highlighted information? Artillery really does smash fortifications and entrenchment rates, eh?

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RE: Tutorial '43 - Combat - Update - 12/7/2017 2:13:41 PM   
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Status: offline 		The situation at T4; this time we the Soviets had 2 turns in a row. Oh well. Our Grn.Btl. put up a good fight and it seems this new 'Wunderwaffe'(?!) for the infantry did cause some damage to the enemy's armour; no T-34 though... yet. As for the rest, see for yourself. I am confident we're in a very good position to deal with the rest of the paras within a day or so; then we'll face the juggernaut in the NW.

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P.S. Do allow me a short beer break and I shall be back after a divisional staff meeting.




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RE: Tutorial '43 - Combat - Update - 12/7/2017 4:13:50 PM   
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Status: offline 		Ehm, the 'staff meeting' took a tad longer than anticipated. Alas, here's the plan:

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RE: Tutorial '43 - Combat - Update - 12/7/2017 4:17:41 PM   
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RE: Tutorial '43 - Combat - Update - 12/7/2017 4:26:06 PM   
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RE: Tutorial '43 - Combat - Update - 12/7/2017 4:31:32 PM   
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RE: Tutorial '43 - Combat - Update - 12/7/2017 4:43:21 PM   
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Status: offline 		Situation and projected movements/attacks at T6. It's obvious that the main bulge of the Soviets are posed to head towards Kanev. Good. I'll deal with the paras in the SE, reinforce Kanev with 2/3 of the Grn.Rgt elements and send some units north.

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RE: Tutorial '43 - Combat - Update - 12/7/2017 4:51:40 PM   
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Status: offline 		End of T6, we done OK, 'cept the attack with the Pz.Abw.Abtl... but the losses are neglectable... only material, not manpower.

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RE: Tutorial '43 - Combat - Update - 12/7/2017 5:25:32 PM   
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RE: Tutorial '43 - Combat - Update - 12/7/2017 5:31:43 PM   
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RE: Tutorial '43 - Combat - Update - 12/7/2017 5:45:22 PM   
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RE: Tutorial '43 - Combat - Update - 12/7/2017 5:52:35 PM   
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RE: Tutorial '43 - Combat - Update - 12/7/2017 5:59:27 PM   
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Status: offline 		T11. Yes, the Soviets had the initiative for 2 turns... and they somehow to manage to inflict some serious, alas not real killer damage.

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RE: Tutorial '43 - Combat - Update - 12/7/2017 6:12:06 PM   
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Status: offline 		A Marginal Victory, just about that. The Soviets, for some reason, only started to pressure me the last 2-4 turns; not bad.

Now, it's your turn to play the Soviets and see if you can do better, eh?

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P.S. Please, Do let me know what tutorial I could offer you next, OK?




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RE: Tutorial '43 - Combat - Update - 12/7/2017 6:16:53 PM   
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RE: Tutorial '43 - Combat - Update - 12/7/2017 9:40:57 PM   
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quote:

ORIGINAL: Oberst_Klink

A bit (O)ff(T)opic: For those of you, and I am sure there are quite many rather than a few, who are wondering how the combat system works 'under the hood'; it's worth examining the toawlog.txt. I use Notepad++ (very good program!) to read the .txt out and use bits even for, well, AARs and kinda little TOAW IV combat report stories. Notice the highlighted information? Artillery really does smash fortifications and entrenchment rates, eh?

Klink, Oberst





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RE: Tutorial '43 - Combat - Update - 12/8/2017 4:36:01 AM   
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Status: offline 		Indeed, that's when it really hurts ;) I like the toawlog.txt; gives you the best insight... might even do a tutorial about what one can use to make an even
more enjoyable AAR or a cartoon.

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RE: Tutorial '43 - Combat - Update - 12/8/2017 7:04:53 AM   
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The toawlog.txt. Is there one for each save game or just for the last turn run regardless of save?

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RE: Tutorial '43 - Combat - Update - 12/8/2017 7:22:38 AM   
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every time you start a new game the old toawlog.txt is going to be overwritten.
What I do is, I make sure I rename it for potential AAR use and analysis.

Edit: Turn saves attached, nearly forgot about that.

Here an extraction of the toawlog.txt

ATCombat : 8.8cm Flak 36 current effective accuracy vs. T-34/76 (late): 32%.
ATCombat : Chance of penetration on T-34/76 (late) [8 @ 68 degrees -> 9] by
8.8cm Flak 36 [12] is 100%.
ATCombat : Effective hit on Soviet Union T-34/76 (late) by Axis 8.8cm Flak 36.
Combat : T-34/76 (late) destroyed. (specificAttrit=3)

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RE: Tutorial '43 - Combat - Update - 12/8/2017 8:54:11 AM   
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nBStKk3fE4E

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