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RE: Soviets Activated.... - 12/14/2017 10:39:36 PM

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Some nice destroyed devices.

I always take this report with a big grain of salt, as I think there is a lot of inflation in the losses number when units retreat.

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RE: Soviets Activated.... - 12/14/2017 10:41:08 PM

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That is a serious load off your mind.

Are they heading to the Soviet border?

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RE: Soviets Activated.... - 12/14/2017 11:35:51 PM

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This squadron is pulling 20%CAP, 80% Training. Is there any rhyme or reason on how the local commander puts pilots into training and CAP? Low fatigue is one guess, but does it look at skill? Does the admin rating of the commander come in to play?

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RE: Soviets Activated.... - 12/14/2017 11:38:29 PM

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That is a serious load off your mind.

Are they heading to the Soviet border?

Unless there is an emergency, they are pushing on into China. I need the resources of the Changsha pocket.

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RE: Soviets Activated.... - 12/14/2017 11:43:39 PM

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Manchuko

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RE: Soviets Activated.... - 12/15/2017 6:29:46 AM

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April 19, 1942

Wenchow falls, freeing up 4 divisions and 2 hq. Whew.

Ohh, good news finally

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RE: Soviets Activated.... - 12/15/2017 6:34:04 AM

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A very nice day in the air with very inferior planes. The Soviets threw 56 Migs at the Oscars today...and because of their orders (I am guessing here) they significantly under-performed but still accounted for the lion share of Oscar losses on the day. If the Soviets would have started off with three sweeps of 18 Migs each....it would have been ugly.

Oscars 1c can handle anything Allies can throw in the riddle right now, provided they are used in good numbers and consistently.

This includes the P 38 at Singapur...

Really man, wouldn't you consider concentrating your air assets on Malay-Sumatra to wear off Allied fighter force, once and for some many good months to come?

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RE: Soviets Activated.... - 12/15/2017 8:13:52 AM

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I think pilots are selected randomly, with some check for fatigue. More fatigued pilots are less likely to fly missions, at the least. Assuming you have more pilots than planes.

Also, it's hard for you to tell which pilots are being selected each turn in a CAP 20/Train 80 squadron. You can look at which ones increased that turn, but it's also possible some lower-skill pilots flew but didn't increase skill. I also suspect pilots with lower overall skill numbers are more likely to gain an increase in a skill, so lower-skilled pilots may appear to be flying more often when really it is just that their skills are increasing more often (because it is more likely to increase).

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RE: Soviets Activated.... - 12/15/2017 12:47:46 PM

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A very nice day in the air with very inferior planes. The Soviets threw 56 Migs at the Oscars today...and because of their orders (I am guessing here) they significantly under-performed but still accounted for the lion share of Oscar losses on the day. If the Soviets would have started off with three sweeps of 18 Migs each....it would have been ugly.

Oscars 1c can handle anything Allies can throw in the riddle right now, provided they are used in good numbers and consistently.

This includes the P 38 at Singapur...

Really man, wouldn't you consider concentrating your air assets on Malay-Sumatra to wear off Allied fighter force, once and for some many good months to come?

You seem to be under the impression I have a lot of fighters. I don't. I won't until the Nick the A6M3 and Tojo show up. I have repeatedly shown this in pictures, and in words.

I purposefully didn't expand Oscar Ic or A6M2 until well after the Soviet activation.

As I have said before, I have done everything wrong for an early war against the Soviets.

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RE: Soviets Activated.... - 12/16/2017 4:38:01 PM

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April 20, 1942

Allies launch a cross CV strike...but Oscar is on the job.

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RE: Soviets Activated.... - 12/17/2017 3:22:43 AM

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... the Nick the A6M3 and Tojo show up ...

How many days until A6M3 arrives ... should be soon, right?

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RE: Soviets Activated.... - 12/17/2017 12:45:38 PM

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... the Nick the A6M3 and Tojo show up ...

How many days until A6M3 arrives ... should be soon, right?

Very early next month, perhaps as soon as the 5th. I still have two factories repairing (2 and 4 left). I have had very poor repair rates on the A6M3 for whatever reason, and some very good repair rates on Sam, Frank, Jack. I always thought there was a luck die roll in R&D facilities (as some seem so much better) but I am constantly told that is not the case and they are the statistical outliers.

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RE: Soviets Activated.... - 12/18/2017 1:48:31 AM

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So two weeks until A6M3 arrives and you say it will be in BIG production numbers. At this point in the war, it is very competitive aircraft. Not quite what George is if it arrives in early '43, but still pretty good. It should swing air war in your favor IF you can get enough built.

Statistical outliers = luck

I clearly see them as well. Which is why I state it is quite possible to get A7M in early 44 with enough RnD factories. It only takes one to repair early and things change rapidly ... and my observations are that can happen ...

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RE: Soviets Activated.... - 12/18/2017 3:50:34 AM

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April 21, 1942

Allies keep pushing forward, reinforcing Malaya. The KB turns into the wind for morning and afternoon strikes, but bad weather plays havoc with the torpedo runs.

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RE: Soviets Activated.... - 12/18/2017 3:52:18 AM

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Afternoon strike, very few planes sortied here, because of the nasty weather in both the departure hex and the arrival hex.

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RE: Soviets Activated.... - 12/18/2017 3:53:50 AM

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9 Allied units now at this base...

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RE: Soviets Activated.... - 12/18/2017 3:55:36 AM

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Air losses for the day. Most of the plane losses came in the afternoon strike.

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RE: Soviets Activated.... - 12/18/2017 8:01:29 AM

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Oscars 1c can handle anything Allies can throw in the riddle right now, provided they are used in good numbers and consistently.

This includes the P 38 at Singapur...

Really man, wouldn't you consider concentrating your air assets on Malay-Sumatra to wear off Allied fighter force, once and for some many good months to come?

You seem to be under the impression I have a lot of fighters. I don't. I won't until the Nick the A6M3 and Tojo show up. I have repeatedly shown this in pictures, and in words.

No, we're pointing out the opportunity or need to painfully concentrate the limited air assets over Malay- Sumatra...even at the high cost to leave Manchuria uncovered, hopefully for the shortest time possible...

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RE: Soviets Activated.... - 12/18/2017 5:06:08 PM

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No, we're pointing out the opportunity or need to painfully concentrate the limited air assets over Malay- Sumatra...even at the high cost to leave Manchuria uncovered, hopefully for the shortest time possible...

So how much do I leave to protect my industry? Nothing?

I am at a loss at how you think the Oscar Ic can handle anything the Allies can throw at it. To attempt to gain air superiority with the Oscar Ic, sweeping into a 200 plane base at Singers, or even attempting to hit bleeding CAP, to my mind is a loss on every point.

Below is the stats on the Oscar Ic...a sweeper it is not.

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RE: Soviets Activated.... - 12/18/2017 5:23:34 PM

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So two weeks until A6M3 arrives and you say it will be in BIG production numbers. At this point in the war, it is very competitive aircraft. Not quite what George is if it arrives in early '43, but still pretty good. It should swing air war in your favor IF you can get enough built.

I can make anywhere from 90 to 210 from day one of activation. I probably really need the 210,probably for about 2 months, but then that would mean no r&d on the A6M3a which really isn't the end of the world with careful use of the KB. I have a ways to ponder it before deciding.

May 1 sees the Nick at 100 planes per month, a few days later the A6M3, and June the Tojo IIa arrives currently set at 60 planes per month (I am thinking of upping that to 90).

I am thinking the Frank A will arrive in May of 1943 if not sooner. For some odd reason this mod has the Frank arriving normally 1/44. The Sam is still 6/45 but I have a ton of r&d factories on it. A ton.

Obviously, I think if I frustrate the Allied air war then the game will devolve down to a night bombing campaign of Honshu and those darn Yankee bases in Manchuko. Allies will be able to night bomb far in advance of any night fighters showing up. I have gone Irving, Nick D, Frances and Peggy. Just the potential of it really changes the game.

I maybe able to sweep those bases and have air superiority there, but I suspect the Soviet AA will neuter the IJN bombers and the heavy bombers will be left to perform their horrors all of 1943. The question is can I mount an offensive against the Soviets in 1943? I guess we will find out.

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RE: Soviets Activated.... - 12/18/2017 5:25:29 PM

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I think pilots are selected randomly, with some check for fatigue. More fatigued pilots are less likely to fly missions, at the least. Assuming you have more pilots than planes.

Also, it's hard for you to tell which pilots are being selected each turn in a CAP 20/Train 80 squadron. You can look at which ones increased that turn, but it's also possible some lower-skill pilots flew but didn't increase skill. I also suspect pilots with lower overall skill numbers are more likely to gain an increase in a skill, so lower-skilled pilots may appear to be flying more often when really it is just that their skills are increasing more often (because it is more likely to increase).

Thanks, I think that jives with my observations. I will keep an eye on it, and perhaps post another screen shot of the unit down the road. The number of missions flown will show the selection of pilots.

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RE: Soviets Activated.... - 12/18/2017 5:44:00 PM

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Hi guys, the modded maps in this AAR are amazing, could somebody post a link, thanks :)

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RE: Soviets Activated.... - 12/18/2017 5:56:08 PM

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Hi guys, the modded maps in this AAR are amazing, could somebody post a link, thanks :)

Are you talking about the extended map? Or the graphics? I believe it is just the normal graphics for an extended dababes map game. Check out their web site...links there. Search dababes witp.

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RE: Soviets Activated.... - 12/18/2017 11:34:13 PM

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April 22, 1942

Just one of those days.

To add insult to injury, I accidentally closed the window before saving, so I have to watch the AAR again. Maybe I will take a picture of the Mutsu getting nailed.