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How are things with Russian Steel? - 5/25/2003 9:27:01 AM

Penetrator

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An old bastard here; I just wanted to find out if Russian Steel is out there and warped as ever. Made a little input back then as I remember it. Are we having fun at all?

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- 5/25/2003 10:43:59 AM

tracer

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A,
Glad to see you're still around and kicking! :D

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- 5/26/2003 12:26:30 AM

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Thanks dude:) Well, kicking, struggling... At least making an effort.

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- 5/26/2003 2:07:30 AM

tracer

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There's a thread regarding Russian Steel in the campaigns/scenarios sub-forum: [URL=http://www.matrixgames.com/forums/showthread.php?s=&threadid=29073]http://www.matrixgames.com/forums/showthread.php?s=&threadid=29073[/URL]

I get the feeling that everyone's in a 'holding pattern' until the H2H and v7.2 patches are released.

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- 5/27/2003 9:25:07 AM

darroch

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Penetrator,

"Made a little input back then as I remember it." is an understatement...you designed near half the battles IIR...

Greetings!

RS 1.5 is available - it gets the player to Feb 1943 in the Caucasus...over 40 battles

Was just starting the next three battles (Kharkov) when work commitments overwhelmed me...

Made me sad because Kursk was next - have a nicely laid out treatment of III Pz Corps front in four battles....

The player will probably learn to despise Tigers if this bunch ever gets built...

That was in January IIR. RS 1.5 also featured further refinements on the first 6 battles and some "bug' fixes - bad branches and such...

Frankly, RS 1.5 is fairly solid and, barring effective feedback from players, unlikely to be revisited. The later war battles beckon if ever I get back to this project...

Tankhead was planning to host RS 1.5 but something seems to have gone wrong - he has not updated the Russian Steel page and I have not heard from him in a long time. I hope he's doing well.

I've sent RS 1.5 to over 20 players via email - it's tedious but it works...

Haven't had much feedback - most of what I have was positive - one AAR was rather critical but did result in some enhancements...

Nice to see on the forums once more.

darroch

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RS 1.5 files - 5/27/2003 10:43:18 AM

pbhawkin1

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So does that mean that no-one is hosting 1.5?
If not then could some kind person send them to my email address? As it is I am still playing 1.3!

[email]pbhawkin@optusnet.com.au[/email]

regards

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- 5/28/2003 11:44:53 AM

darroch

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Sir!

1.5 is in the email (assuming a lack of operator errors on my part....

1.5 is the complete campaign - it should simply overwrite earlier versions..

Hope all goes well.

Brad

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- 5/28/2003 12:34:03 PM

Gallo Rojo

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Hi there! :D
any plan for continuing the campaign? or to convert it to SPH2H?

I'm in battle # 17 rigth now. having fun killing Hungarians and Germans.

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- 5/28/2003 6:00:16 PM

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G/R,

Haven't thought about converting to H2H - what's involved?

As far as continuing - time permitting, I'd like to push farther into 1943....work commitments remain overwhelming though...

I've heard that 7.2 might come out - that might be a good excuse to push out a few more battles...

I was working on a March 1943 Kharkhov fight but the map I borrowed had some 'features' - such a tanks driving through buildings! Had to stop before reworking the map...

At Battle 17, you only have 20+ left to go....you'll be hitting Penetrator's designs by Battle 20...all I can say is to brace yourself! As a designer, he shows no mercy!

Cheers,

Brad

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- 5/28/2003 10:45:56 PM

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darroch,
Could I get a copy of the 1.5?
[email]rebelbug@1starnet.com[/email]

Thanks, :D

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- 5/28/2003 11:06:11 PM

Gallo Rojo

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[QUOTE]Originally posted by darroch
[B]G/R,

Haven't thought about converting to H2H - what's involved?

Brad [/B][/QUOTE]

To convert to SPH2H there are mainly 3 thinghs to do:
1) Charge the Russian Steel Campaign in SPH2H (this is the easy part ;))
2) Review all the battles looking for OOB inconsistencies (when you move from one version to another what may happen is that a what you see as a PzIII in SPWaW 7.1 is a Stug in SPH2H ... of what is a SS Inf. Sqd in SPWaW 7.1 is a Special Op unit in SPH2H ... so this have to be checked)
3) Fix the prices according to SPH2H prices ... example: you allways give 105 points in SPWaW to buy 3 Med Truck plt. as support forces ... what you have to do is see how much 3 med truck plt costs in SPH2H

I think that's it.
I have been thinking in doing the conversion myself ... but I have absolutly not time right now ... and I'll have even less time in the future :(

If you didn't try SPH2H, I strongly recomends you ...
Soviets worst in SPH2H than in SPWaW (in terms of experience and leader ranking) but they are really cheap!

[QUOTE]Originally posted by darroch
[B]G/R,
As far as continuing - time permitting, I'd like to push farther into 1943....work commitments remain overwhelming though...

I've heard that 7.2 might come out - that might be a good excuse to push out a few more battles...

Brad [/B][/QUOTE]

well ... that's good news (the new battles I mean) :D

[QUOTE]Originally posted by darroch
[B]G/R,
At Battle 17, you only have 20+ left to go....you'll be hitting Penetrator's designs by Battle 20...all I can say is to brace yourself! As a designer, he shows no mercy!

Cheers,

Brad [/B][/QUOTE]

I get a desicive victory in this one :D

very best
Gallo Rojo

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- 5/29/2003 8:59:00 AM

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Gallo Rojo,

The H2H sounds interesting - I will need to play it a little to get a feel for the changes....

I still hope to do late war battles though - some of the most interesting systems don't show up until 1944-45....

Cheers,

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- 5/30/2003 2:42:20 PM

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Darroch,

how large is the file with the Russian Steel campaign (I have a VERY slow internet connection)?

Thanks,

AC

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- 6/1/2003 12:57:46 AM

Frank W.

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brad: i have some webspace....

perhaps i can host the russian steel camp ?

i think i could make simply a under - section
on my ( not very active ) music page for it....

if i got the time....;)

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- 6/1/2003 8:21:38 PM

darroch

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AC:

For reasons that I have forgotten, RS 1.5 is presently in three zip files: 1.2M, 1.2M, and 0.8M respectively...

I can send three messages, each with an attachment < 2M

Let me know if that works for you.

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FrankW: Hi! Your offer sounds good - I will see if I can get RS 1.5 into a single zip file. I can also send you as much or as little intro text as desired. The nice layout with pictures is Tankhead's - I know Fabio Prado has some original material too - he hosted RS first and then Tankhead took over following some ISP wrangling...

I'll let you know when the single file is ready.

Brad

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- 6/4/2003 12:53:59 AM

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[QUOTE]Originally posted by darroch
[B]AC:

For reasons that I have forgotten, RS 1.5 is presently in three zip files: 1.2M, 1.2M, and 0.8M respectively...

I can send three messages, each with an attachment < 2M

Let me know if that works for you.

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Darroch, that will be fine. Please send the files to [EMAIL=anaran.covi@tin.it]anaran.covi@tin.it[/EMAIL] . Thank you very much.

AC

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- 6/5/2003 7:02:05 PM

darroch

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The most recent salvo of RS 1.5 sent downrange this morning...

If you don't see the three emails, let me know.

Hope it goes well,

Cheers,

Brad

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missed battle? - 6/9/2003 11:56:06 AM

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Re: missed battle? - 6/9/2003 5:04:19 PM

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[QUOTE]Originally posted by Gallo Rojo
[B]cheers Darroch!

question:
I have just fought battle # 24 "Spartakova Raid" and get a Desicive Victory.
Then the Campaign send me directly to Battle # 27 "Serafimovich Assault" ... Is this right? Souldn't I have to fight some battles inside Stalingrad before that?
Last patch I have says RS14 ... is there another pach arrown?
best
Gallo Rojo [/B][/QUOTE]

1.5 is the newest version !

how is your record in the game ??

am now at battle 18 and one of tanks reached 100 kills :cool: :eek:

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Re: Re: missed battle? - 6/9/2003 8:24:37 PM

Gallo Rojo

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[QUOTE]Originally posted by Frank W.
[B]1.5 is the newest version ![/B][/QUOTE]

thanks Frank ... do you know here can I download it?

[QUOTE]Originally posted by Frank W.
[B]
how is your record in the game ??[/B][/QUOTE]

Campaign Score: 48 Points
23 battles fought
Minor Victories: 8
Decisive Victories 7
The rest are draws (I'm trying to keep my core force alive, not to be a hero).

[QUOTE]Originally posted by Frank W.
[B]
am now at battle 18 and one of tanks reached 100 kills :cool: :eek: [/B][/QUOTE]

I have a tanker with 99 kills and my most experienced unit has 118 points.

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- 6/9/2003 11:49:50 PM

darroch

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cheers Darroch!

question:
I have just fought battle # 24 "Spartakova Raid" and get a Desicive Victory.
Then the Campaign send me directly to Battle # 27 "Serafimovich Assault" ... Is this right? Souldn't I have to fight some battles inside Stalingrad before that?
Last patch I have says RS14 ... is there another pach arrown?
best
Gallo Rojo

Cheers to both you and Frank - Battle 27!!! It is very gratifying to see the campaign played this far!

As for the 'gap' you discovered, I am afraid it is a feature of RS1.5 - not a mistake...allow me to explain:

Regrettably, the six Stalingrad battles did not get designed - the original designers never sent in even partially finished battles and the one I was doing - Mamyaev Kurgan - was just too big and complex to test and would have been overwhelming to play - a real clickfest.

Also, Penetrator had pressed on and designed many of the post-Stalingrad battles and I decided to skip the player to Serafimovich in order to give Penetrator's battles a chance to be played.

I always intended to go back and do a few Stalingrad battles but there never seemed to be enough time. If I begin another set of battles I can either do Stalingrad or Kharkov 1943 leading to Kursk.....

By the way Gallo - I hope you can still recognize the script for the next several battles - they are the realization of the storyboard that you supplied to A_B almost two years ago as phase 2 of the Campaign Collective...I think Penetrator has done an excellent job designing to the script...I think you will find the battles on the way to Rostov to be a challenge...

I will always be happy to guide any volunteers in designing some Stalingrad battles - they can easily be inserted into the script using the built-in branching capability of the SPWAW campaign editor...I will not have any design time for quite awhile and when I do, I will most likely move forward to Kursk and beyond...

BTW: the Stalingrad "gap" offers an interesting opportunity for new designers to build a completely new branch of battles....

Good Luck at Serafimovich - now you are on the offensive!!

Brad

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- 6/9/2003 11:52:16 PM

darroch

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Gallo,

If you need RS 1.5 send me your preferred email address and I will send it to you.

Once I assemble it into a single package I will send it to FrankW for hosting - until then it is easiest if I email it....

Brad

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- 6/10/2003 8:17:25 PM

Gallo Rojo

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Thanks Darroch :)
I do recognize the script of the Uranus and Saturn operation. I'm very happy about have reached these battles. Is like a dream come truth and I'm happy about had colaborated at least in this small sort. :)

About the "lost" battles in stalingrad ... there is not a big problem ... as a matter of facts I found more realistic that a movile force as the one that Russian Steel's Players are leading avoid urban battles and had sent in the reserves to be employed in the counter attack.

my email address is [email]exequiel_lopresti@yahoo.com.ar[/email]

thanks again

very best

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- 7/7/2003 4:58:36 AM

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PLease e-mail Russian steel1.5 to me as well. Thanks in advance
[email]ppopov@thinkcts.com[/email]

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- 7/11/2003 9:39:57 AM

darroch

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Sgt Popov -

Sorry for the delay - I am swamped at work... I will try and get you a copy just a soon as I can...

One of the download recipients posted it to a website but I cannot find the email with the address....

I resort to email....

Does anyone have an FTP site that could fit a 7+ MB file????

Cheers,

Darroch

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- 7/11/2003 11:02:44 AM

Sgt Popov

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Thanks Darroch. I have and continue to enjoy the Russian Steel Campaign. I cannot wait for a campaign that covers the last couple on WW2 years for the Russians

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- 7/12/2003 2:35:09 AM

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Hi!

If you send it to Sgt. Popov, could you please send an cc to

[email]roland.rahn@cityweb.de[/email] ?

Thanks in advance,

Roland

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- 7/16/2003 9:43:14 AM

darroch

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Roland,

You should see RS 1.5 in three files.

Let me know if it worked.

Brad

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- 7/16/2003 11:32:35 AM

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Hi Brad,

thank you very much, I received the files safely (in the third attempt, after the connection was breaking down two times :mad: ;) ).

Roland

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- 7/16/2003 5:39:04 PM

Frank W.

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i think russian steel is too easy :D
( only a joke it�s challenging ! )

i�m now at a battle were you have orders to "delay the enemy and then retreat or so " but i�m advancing vs. the germans.
they lost a huge amount of tanks here.

perhaps i played too much PBM�s and now are to good f. AI playing ?:)

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