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Cost of Attacking WRONG???? - 1/4/2018 12:53:12 PM

Wheat

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Blizzard, 1942

My panzers are attempting to make a HASTY attack across a major river. As I understand it, the cost should be:

HA-3
Attack across Major River-12
Blizzard-2
Total-17

Well, a panzer with 21 MP left CANNOT make the attack, a panzer with 23 MP left CAN. What am I missing here? Has the attacking costs changed in some patch?

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RE: Cost of Attacking WRONG???? - 1/4/2018 4:42:56 PM

Nix77

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quote:

ORIGINAL: Wheat

Blizzard, 1942

My panzers are attempting to make a HASTY attack across a major river. As I understand it, the cost should be:

HA-3
Attack across Major River-12
Blizzard-2
Total-17

Well, a panzer with 21 MP left CANNOT make the attack, a panzer with 23 MP left CAN. What am I missing here? Has the attacking costs changed in some patch?

The ice level MP costs affect attacking too.

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RE: Cost of Attacking WRONG???? - 1/5/2018 1:09:30 AM

Wheat

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Nix77, you are probably right, and I didn't realize it, but I went back to the updated manual and geez, its as clear as "mud" as to what the costs are. On the turn I wanted to attack, it was ice level 6. But nowhere in the rules does it seem to say what the costs are for attacking over a river with ice. I am pretty sure that at a certain ice level the river has no effect. I'm a bit bummed that the table of movement costs doesn't clarify this.

Anyone have better info on this?

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RE: Cost of Attacking WRONG???? - 1/5/2018 8:14:08 AM

Nix77

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quote:

ORIGINAL: Wheat

Nix77, you are probably right, and I didn't realize it, but I went back to the updated manual and geez, its as clear as "mud" as to what the costs are. On the turn I wanted to attack, it was ice level 6. But nowhere in the rules does it seem to say what the costs are for attacking over a river with ice. I am pretty sure that at a certain ice level the river has no effect. I'm a bit bummed that the table of movement costs doesn't clarify this.

Anyone have better info on this?

Here's the line from the "Condensed Rules for 1.08.09", which is a good reference, but unfortunately not 100% perfect and of course doesn't contain the changes after 1.09.00.

Oh, and you got one thing wrong there, the Blizzard +2MP isn't calculated to attack costs, thus 23MP is just enough for a mechanized hasty over level 5-7 ice. I really wish there was a tooltip for the attack costs. Especially in WitW/WitE2 with the battle delay included it's going to be really confusing.