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ORIGINAL: thedoctorking
Or maybe there are two or three bases in the destination hex and the program can't figure out for some reason that there is room for all your squadrons, but maybe not all on the same base.

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ORIGINAL: Stelteck
Personally i do not use air transfer at all and use only the reserve in, reserve out.

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ORIGINAL: Telemecus

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ORIGINAL: Stelteck
Personally i do not use air transfer at all and use only the reserve in, reserve out.

Worth noting if you move air bases with aircraft in them overground perhaps a quarter or more of your airforce miles/fatigue etc is just coming from ground movement - not flying missions.

Also if you use the semi-auto move to reserve from within the airbase details the airgroups (probably) do not get the morale boost as they do not go through transfer.

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thedoctorking
1. move an empty base to the new core area for the air group. It must be alone in the hex (no stacking of air bases at this point)

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thedoctorking
3. move another empty base to the new core area but careful, do not stack with the first one

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thedoctorking
6. Send a base forward to a staging position. This might have to have some fighters on it depending on how far you are moving, though you really want to avoid driving your fighters around since they have so few miles

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thedoctorking
7. Move the bases in the core area into the same hex (to minimize the number of bomb runs the enemy will get at them)

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thedoctorking
You could try a few magic incantations

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ORIGINAL: thedoctorking

I'm trying to always use transfer instead of driving bases with air units on them for precisely the reason that Telemecus cites but air transfer is such a pain that it is effectively impossible to move all your air units this way. It really makes a difference for the Germans with their fuel and fighter miles shortages.

The way I'm doing it is:
1. move an empty base to the new core area for the air group. It must be alone in the hex (no stacking of air bases at this point)

Question: How do you successfully "empty an airbase?" I cannot even get the F10 Air Transfer op to work.
Can you explain? Example; LT Click on individual air unit -> select the receiving Air Base [AB] - what next? Is it a RT click on that AB to transfer aircraft and complete op....thus freeing the chosen AB that can now be used as a forward/staging AB unit....

2. air transfer nine air units from the old core to the new one. If you are careful and lucky, you can get them all from the same sending air base, emptying it out for the next step.

Question: How can I increase my "luck" level?
Nothing else appears to work.

Question: What is "the old core?" Is it the the originating formation?
Once again, is it LT click, or SHIFT LT click, to select, and then RT Click or ??? to effect transfer ~ what?

3. move another empty base to the new core area but careful, do not stack with the first one
4. transfer another nine air groups.
5. repeat 3-4 until you have moved all air groups to the new base area. Leave one fighter group per staging base
6. Send a base forward to a staging position.
This might have to have some fighters on it depending on how far you are moving, though you really want to avoid driving your fighters around since they have so few miles
7. Move the bases in the core area into the same hex (to minimize the number of bomb runs the enemy will get at them)

You could try a few magic incantations

I'm still getting hammered in the air as the Germans in my current game, though.

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ORIGINAL: Snowleopard762

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ORIGINAL: thedoctorking

I'm trying to always use transfer instead of driving bases with air units on them for precisely the reason that Telemecus cites but air transfer is such a pain that it is effectively impossible to move all your air units this way. It really makes a difference for the Germans with their fuel and fighter miles shortages.

The way I'm doing it is:
1. move an empty base to the new core area for the air group. It must be alone in the hex (no stacking of air bases at this point)

Question: How do you successfully "empty an airbase?" I cannot even get the F10 Air Transfer op to work.
Can you explain? Example; LT Click on individual air unit -> select the receiving Air Base [AB] - what next? Is it a RT click on that AB to transfer aircraft and complete op....thus freeing the chosen AB that can now be used as a forward/staging AB unit....

2. air transfer nine air units from the old core to the new one. If you are careful and lucky, you can get them all from the same sending air base, emptying it out for the next step.

Question: How can I increase my "luck" level?
Nothing else appears to work.

Question: What is "the old core?" Is it the the originating formation?
Once again, is it LT click, or SHIFT LT click, to select, and then RT Click or ??? to effect transfer ~ what?

3. move another empty base to the new core area but careful, do not stack with the first one
4. transfer another nine air groups.
5. repeat 3-4 until you have moved all air groups to the new base area. Leave one fighter group per staging base
6. Send a base forward to a staging position.
This might have to have some fighters on it depending on how far you are moving, though you really want to avoid driving your fighters around since they have so few miles
7. Move the bases in the core area into the same hex (to minimize the number of bomb runs the enemy will get at them)

You could try a few magic incantations

I'm still getting hammered in the air as the Germans in my current game, though.

You are exactly right TDK - it is worse than totally frustrating.

The only other reference I can find is this one one by Crackaces =
Crackaces - Air Transfer Ops.
Whilst it is more comprehensive, it still does not clearly contain images with those vital mouse clicking annotations.

Perhaps it is time for a more comprehensive visual guide to reduce cardiac stress.....