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No in-game sound - 1/19/2018 12:24:10 AM   
bilbow


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Status: offline 		Have new computer, Win 10 Pro (1709), Intel I7. After several hours of messing with the switches AE runs after a fashion.
Very sluggish, and the pop-up for naval and air combat flickers. Not ideal, but playable. Current switch settings:

"War in the Pacific Admiral Edition.exe" -cpu2 -w -altFont -archive - deepColor -px1920 -py1080

There is however no in-game sound. The intro screeans and video run fine, but that's it. The individual .sfx files will play
outside the game once I associated them with Media Player. I also did a fresh install from the original DVD, same problem with
entirely default settings.

Must be a problem with my rig, but I am out of ideas to try. Any thoughts would be appreciated.

Thanks



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RE: No in-game sound - 1/19/2018 12:31:17 AM   
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Status: offline 		You have to point to the location of the exe...

"C:\Matrix Games\War in the Pacific Admiral's Edition\Beta2\War in the Pacific Admiral Edition.exe" -SingleCpuOrders -deepColor -dd_sw -altFont


If you are not using the beta it will be similar to...

"C:\Matrix Games\War in the Pacific Admiral's Edition\War in the Pacific Admiral Edition.exe" -SingleCpuOrders -deepColor -dd_sw -altFont

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RE: No in-game sound - 1/19/2018 12:35:50 AM   
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Don't forget the current update, then the beta if you wish to use it.

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RE: No in-game sound - 1/19/2018 12:48:39 AM   
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- deepColor


There is a space... BAD
no spaces between - and switch
Be precise with concatenation.


All this should fix video and sluggishness and may fix sound.

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RE: No in-game sound - 1/19/2018 1:06:09 AM   
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ORIGINAL: MakeeLearn

quote:

- deepColor


There is a space... BAD
no spaces between - and switch
Be precise with concatenation.


All this should fix video and sluggishness and may fix sound.


Thanks for looking. Here's the full path. I shortened it to fit this window.
"C:\Matrix Games3\War in the Pacific Admiral's Edition\Beta2\War in the Pacific Admiral Edition.exe" -cpu2 -w -altFont -archive -deepColor -px1920 -py1080

Fixing the BAD space doesn't seen to affect anything. Still sluggish and still no sound.



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RE: No in-game sound - 1/19/2018 1:16:48 AM   
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quote:

With Win 10 ver 1709 and a multi-core processor, I've found the following things to be possible influences on the performance of WitP:AE:


(1) Removal of -dd_sw
(2) Use of -deepColor
(3) Use of a -cpu# switch if the CPU is Intel
(4) Use of -SingleCPUOrders or -SingleCPUStart if the CPU is AMD
(5) Experiment with the use of fullscreen and windowed mode plus resolution settings
(6) Use of -multiaudio if combat replay audio doesn't sync with animations
(7) Try turning off transparency mode in Windows 10


Try different switch combinations, start off with the fewest. Swap -deepColor with -dd_sw.

The newest win10 update has caused some problems that require a reconfiguration of the switches used.

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RE: No in-game sound - 1/19/2018 1:29:21 AM   
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ORIGINAL: MakeeLearn

http://www.matrixgames.com/forums/tm.asp?m=4390639&mpage=3

quote:

With Win 10 ver 1709 and a multi-core processor, I've found the following things to be possible influences on the performance of WitP:AE:


(1) Removal of -dd_sw
(2) Use of -deepColor
(3) Use of a -cpu# switch if the CPU is Intel
(4) Use of -SingleCPUOrders or -SingleCPUStart if the CPU is AMD
(5) Experiment with the use of fullscreen and windowed mode plus resolution settings
(6) Use of -multiaudio if combat replay audio doesn't sync with animations
(7) Try turning off transparency mode in Windows 10


Try different switch combinations, start off with the fewest. Swap -deepColor with -dd_sw.

The newest win10 update has caused some problems that require a reconfiguration of the switches used.



I saw this from Korvar, tried all of it. -multiaudio had no affect, and transparency is currently off. Full screen mode has an additional problem, namely if the program
is minimized, then on return all the text is an unreadable green garble.


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RE: No in-game sound - 1/19/2018 1:35:59 AM   
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Status: offline 		Try all switch variations.

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RE: No in-game sound - 1/19/2018 1:55:29 AM   
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Status: offline 		For the switch combinations, MakeeLearn is right - it is a process of experimentation. For a starting point, a configuration that worked with Win 10 ver 1709 is detailed in this post. I believe Mark VII (the OP from the linked thread) is also running a newer i7.

The switches that cleared up the lag were: 
-cpu2 -f -archive -deepColor -multiaudio -altFont



As for the no sound issue, it sounds (pardon the pun) an awful lot like a problem I experienced myself a few months back, as detailed in this thread.

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RE: No in-game sound - 1/19/2018 2:46:41 AM   
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ORIGINAL: Korvar

For the switch combinations, MakeeLearn is right - it is a process of experimentation. For a starting point, a configuration that worked with Win 10 ver 1709 is detailed in this post. I believe Mark VII (the OP from the linked thread) is also running a newer i7.

The switches that cleared up the lag were: 
-cpu2 -f -archive -deepColor -multiaudio -altFont



As for the no sound issue, it sounds (pardon the pun) an awful lot like a problem I experienced myself a few months back, as detailed in this thread.



Yes, I saw your "conversation" with Mark VII. Tried that combination, didn't fix the sluggishness.
I'm not ready to tear into Windows as you describe in your other post. I'll wait a bit on that one.
Thanks for looking, though. I can always go back to my older Win7 machine for now for my AE fix.

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RE: No in-game sound - 1/19/2018 4:41:14 AM   
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ORIGINAL: bilbow


quote:

ORIGINAL: Korvar

For the switch combinations, MakeeLearn is right - it is a process of experimentation. For a starting point, a configuration that worked with Win 10 ver 1709 is detailed in this post. I believe Mark VII (the OP from the linked thread) is also running a newer i7.

The switches that cleared up the lag were: 
-cpu2 -f -archive -deepColor -multiaudio -altFont



As for the no sound issue, it sounds (pardon the pun) an awful lot like a problem I experienced myself a few months back, as detailed in this thread.



Yes, I saw your "conversation" with Mark VII. Tried that combination, didn't fix the sluggishness.
I'm not ready to tear into Windows as you describe in your other post. I'll wait a bit on that one.
Thanks for looking, though. I can always go back to my older Win7 machine for now for my AE fix.

Try a similar sequence of switches...

-skipVideo -deepColor -dd_sw -cpu2 -px1440 -py900 -SingleCpuOrders -archive

AFAIK you haven't tried the SingleCpuOrders...

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RE: No in-game sound - 1/19/2018 3:08:58 PM   
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ORIGINAL: bilbow
Yes, I saw your "conversation" with Mark VII. Tried that combination, didn't fix the sluggishness.
I'm not ready to tear into Windows as you describe in your other post. I'll wait a bit on that one.
Thanks for looking, though. I can always go back to my older Win7 machine for now for my AE fix.


To fix sluggishness, you *must* have the -dd_sw switch. Some people can live without it, you and I cannot. As for the "flicker" you are probably in my boat there as well. Quite likely that you'll need to use windows mode to fix it. The good news is you can use custom settings to develop a window that is almost identical to "full screen"

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RE: No in-game sound - 1/19/2018 9:40:54 PM   
bilbow


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ORIGINAL: Kull


quote:

ORIGINAL: bilbow
Yes, I saw your "conversation" with Mark VII. Tried that combination, didn't fix the sluggishness.
I'm not ready to tear into Windows as you describe in your other post. I'll wait a bit on that one.
Thanks for looking, though. I can always go back to my older Win7 machine for now for my AE fix.


To fix sluggishness, you *must* have the -dd_sw switch. Some people can live without it, you and I cannot. As for the "flicker" you are probably in my boat there as well. Quite likely that you'll need to use windows mode to fix it. The good news is you can use custom settings to develop a window that is almost identical to "full screen"


The -dd_sw switch made a lot of difference, sluggishness and flicker are gome. I had tried it earlier to no effect, must be in comination with something else.
Here is the current switch setup: -cpu2 -f -dd_sw -archive -deepColor -altFont -px1920 -py1080
I still get flicker in window mode, but not with the -f switch. Thanks!


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