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RE: 2by3+ SOVIET SIDE ONLY, German dont enter. - 1/11/2018 4:43:12 AM

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It turns out AGS has cut the rail line. Meaning I can't rail straight in. As a result, I don't think we'll be able to sneak in, particularly as the marsh should be pocketed by next turn. So I've decided not to go ahead with the swamp attack.

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RE: 2by3+ SOVIET SIDE ONLY, German dont enter. - 1/11/2018 4:45:19 AM

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Alright no problem, we will have more opportunities.

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RE: 2by3+ SOVIET SIDE ONLY, German dont enter. - 1/11/2018 5:00:42 AM

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Hi guys,

I've finished my turn, the file is in the dropbox. I've currently evacuated factories exclusively in Moscow as Leningrad is almost empty, and the Southern front doesn't have anything directly threatened.

This turn I evacuated all of the following:

T40
Pe-3 (Just 1)
Pe-2
Pe-2R
IL-4

There's only approximately 9-10k railcap left. I'll leave that for now just in case, but if we don't use it by the end of the turn, might be worth spending it moving some armaments out of Tula or Bryansk.

Thanks,

Ledo

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RE: 2by3+ SOVIET SIDE ONLY, German dont enter. - 1/11/2018 12:06:59 PM

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If you hover over a hex the German controls, the status of that rail line, I.e. damaged or not, I.e. repaired or not, shows. So you should be able to see if that is indeed their rail line for supply or not.
If yes, go for it!
If not, then you might get some infantry divisions distracted. But, given that they are not pushing hard in that area, that doesn�t matter that much.
I did something similar in the past in a game. Made me feel good, looks suitably messy for a few turns, but in the end achieved next to nothing I am sad to report. It cost me two cavalry divisions.

After the series of pockets and the huge losses we took, I think we ought to be reasonably conservative with our ground forces for a few turns, and pray....

Come the mud, things will brighten up, but that is still a long way to go....

To our comrade commanders:
With the southern forces, I plan to continue a wide general retreat to the line of Kursk and Kharkov, but trying to hold on these cities. This overall shortening of my front ( as it current.y runs way to much west east as opposed to north south) will free up some forces we bitterly need.
Furthermore, the lack of fighting in the area means that the supplies and men can go to other sectors.

Could I suggest a joint up defensive line that runs along the Oka to Orel and beyond, then following the Tuskar river past Kursk, then via the patches of forests west of Belgorod, on to Kharkov.
There is nothing of value west of that line, it shortens the line and frees up troops for the defence of Moscow, and to plug the huge gap still in the Rostov area.

Could I also suggest that Central command is in charge of the area in the line north of the Psel river ( halfway between Kursk and Belgorod), and Southerns Command will look after the area south of that. These are just some humble suggestions awaiting the final decree of High Command in Moscow.

I would think this should free up the guts of, or even all the blue units west of Bryansk to help in front of Moscow over the coming few turns.
The Kursk sector will only be defended lightly by us, yes, but I doubt the Germans will send their tanks that way. And their infantry will take 4-5 turns to reestablich contact with our lines again, bringing us much closer to the mud respite. In fact, at present, I am anxious about a sudden southern swing of their armour spearheads southwards towards Orel and Kursk which could bag a lot of our forces.
( all I have is the above images, so things might look very different already.....).

Yours faithfully and in unwavering belief in our final victory!

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RE: 2by3+ SOVIET SIDE ONLY, German dont enter. - 1/11/2018 11:43:02 PM

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The build up is a bit worrying, but I doubt they are planning to go much further than Bryansk & Tula from Centre to South. Their supply lines would be too long with a rail line back in Vitebsk. If AGS starts grouping panzers on the northern part of their sector, I'll start to get more worried about an actual encirclement, at this point I'm expecting a minor thrust and then a redirect back towards Moscow.

Thanks for the write up Kratsch, very useful and i'll keep it in mind. I did in fact hover over the Vitebsk square to determine, I just forgot, I use the units to give me a hint which way to look. Go one up if the rail line decreases its north etc.

I'll take a look at the proposed defensive line, but if you could give me a quick map with the proposed split of defensive responsibilities I'd be happy to roll with it.

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RE: 2by3+ SOVIET SIDE ONLY, German dont enter. - 1/12/2018 10:52:45 AM

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Sure, I�ll post a picture with the suggested line a few days when back home ( just on iPad here).

I have seen they did their file. What happened??? Just nosy and worried about our survival.....

Anyone able to post some screenshots ? 😇

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RE: 2by3+ SOVIET SIDE ONLY, German dont enter. - 1/12/2018 8:34:36 PM

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No its Doctorking who did his turn. No German files yet.

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RE: 2by3+ SOVIET SIDE ONLY, German dont enter. - 1/15/2018 8:58:12 PM

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Its Central commander's turn.

Reinforcement were sent in the middle again.
The Germans are flanking us at Moscow.

Several airplanes around the Moscow area were changed to Yak 1, Laggs and IL-2s.

Huge pocket near Lake Ilmen in the North.

The South Looks good so far.

Do not forget the new orders starting now.

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ORIGINAL: Neogodhobo

NEW ORDER OF THE DAY

I want every single division to hit every German troops in front of them. Do not advance and capture territory if gains are made. Hold your defensive position as much as you can, but attack the enemy as much as you can as well. I want us to be relentless. I want the Germans to consume their supplies like fire, I want to destroy at least 1 tank or vehicle per attack, per division, per turn. Those attacks will be to put a strain on the enemy. Attack not only once, but as much as you can, 4 times if you can. The more we get the Germans to consume their supplies and get broken/destroyed vehicles, the better we are off.

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RE: 2by3+ SOVIET SIDE ONLY, German dont enter. - 1/15/2018 9:51:03 PM

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The latest file asks for the Axis password?! Am I missing something?

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RE: 2by3+ SOVIET SIDE ONLY, German dont enter. - 1/16/2018 1:13:27 AM

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You are definitely missing something dude ! check again haha ;) Look for the
"Supcomend" file

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RE: 2by3+ SOVIET SIDE ONLY, German dont enter. - 1/16/2018 12:03:29 PM

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doh, looked in the 'archive' folder....

Things indeed look a grim in the north: reinforces the concept that a single line of defence against Pz Divs will never hold at this stage of the war. Time to run quite a bit I guess to preserve as much as possible? The pockets are killing us...

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RE: 2by3+ SOVIET SIDE ONLY, German dont enter. - 1/17/2018 11:16:09 AM

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Are we doing North -> Centre - > South this time round?

Asking because I would have time now or tomorrow morning to do my part, but don't want to confuse the sequence.

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RE: 2by3+ SOVIET SIDE ONLY, German dont enter. - 1/17/2018 4:03:53 PM

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Yeah the pockets are killing us, thats for sure...

So any news on the central front?

We are always doing Supcom - Central - North - South. - Sup com

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RE: 2by3+ SOVIET SIDE ONLY, German dont enter. - 1/17/2018 5:02:50 PM

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Yeah, I'll go after center.

I sort of figured I was going to get killed up there but didn't realize it would be this bad. I could use some reinforcements if we have any to spare.

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RE: 2by3+ SOVIET SIDE ONLY, German dont enter. - 1/18/2018 1:38:19 AM

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We dont have any reinforcement to spare. They all went to the center and we will absolutely need them there.

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RE: 2by3+ SOVIET SIDE ONLY, German dont enter. - 1/18/2018 10:32:01 AM

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quote:

ORIGINAL: Neogodhobo

Its Central commander's turn.

Reinforcement were sent in the middle again.
The Germans are flanking us at Moscow.

Several airplanes around the Moscow area were changed to Yak 1, Laggs and IL-2s.

Huge pocket near Lake Ilmen in the North.

The South Looks good so far.

Do not forget the new orders starting now.

quote:

ORIGINAL: Neogodhobo

NEW ORDER OF THE DAY

I want every single division to hit every German troops in front of them. Do not advance and capture territory if gains are made. Hold your defensive position as much as you can, but attack the enemy as much as you can as well. I want us to be relentless. I want the Germans to consume their supplies like fire, I want to destroy at least 1 tank or vehicle per attack, per division, per turn. Those attacks will be to put a strain on the enemy. Attack not only once, but as much as you can, 4 times if you can. The more we get the Germans to consume their supplies and get broken/destroyed vehicles, the better we are off.

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RE: 2by3+ SOVIET SIDE ONLY, German dont enter. - 1/18/2018 5:14:26 PM

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OK, once they take Leningrad I will form a skirmish line and fight a slow withdrawal towards Cherepovets/Rybinsk. I don't think there's much of anything up there that they want anyway. I will certainly attack wherever it appears I can gain an advantage. I intend to attack to try to open the pocket if I can.

Hopefully there are some bombers that can fly air resupply missions to my units in the pocket.

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RE: 2by3+ SOVIET SIDE ONLY, German dont enter. - 1/19/2018 9:40:23 PM

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Hi guys,

I've finished my turn and its in the Dropbox. I haven't done factory evacs yet though. I probably have to evac kalinin, Bryansk and N.Moscow this turn. I'm very concerned about how quickly and powerfully he shifted North. I can do evacs at the end of the turn if that's alright, and I also need some advice, should I thin my line in the centre more to strengthen the line blocking his advance in the North. Because currently I think he's just going to breeze through in the North.

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RE: 2by3+ SOVIET SIDE ONLY, German dont enter. - 1/19/2018 9:52:48 PM

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You didnt attack anyone though ?

Guys, if you dont attack the Germans, they will never be tired, or they will never loose tanks or supplies. The orders are to attack every single german units possible. Every attack on German Tank Division is susceptible to inflict 2-4 tank loss on them. Thats HUGE. If we never attack them, they will never suffer any losses.

I want every one of our division to attack every single german division that is possible to do without moving.

quote:

ORIGINAL: Neogodhobo

NEW ORDER OF THE DAY

I want every single division to hit every German troops in front of them. Do not advance and capture territory if gains are made. Hold your defensive position as much as you can, but attack the enemy as much as you can as well. I want us to be relentless. I want the Germans to consume their supplies like fire, I want to destroy at least 1 tank or vehicle per attack, per division, per turn. Those attacks will be to put a strain on the enemy. Attack not only once, but as much as you can, 4 times if you can. The more we get the Germans to consume their supplies and get broken/destroyed vehicles, the better we are off.

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RE: 2by3+ SOVIET SIDE ONLY, German dont enter. - 1/19/2018 10:50:43 PM

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I had a quick look.

I would definitely strengthen the area north of Moscow!!! Unstack some of your big stacks if need be, in particular when units stacked are from different commands (gets a sign reduction in CV for command confusion).
Shuffle some more stuff north - their main attack is coming from there!

Defend the Klyasma river line against an attack from the north. It is much better to have 3 hexes behind each other with a unit each, than one hex with three units! It is 41, our fighting is crap; but via EZOCs, it uses up their MPs, to slow them to a crawl.
At present, they can pick if they want to cut south west or east of Moscow. West is more conservative, will back most of everything you have west of Moscow, and effectively end the game. East of Moscow is even more ambitious, a bit more risky, but equally can turn into a game ender I fear...
That bulge in your line NW of Moscow is just asking to be pocketed...

Also, your HQs are all over the place far far away from their troops! They need to be max 5 hexes from their forces. Click on an HQ, their units will light up, and should not be red if at all possible!!

I know I will get sent to the gulags, but I have strong reservations about the kamikaze attack order....We do not have the strength (yet) for that, and the disruption to our forces will make their attacks so much easier... In winter - yes; in 42 onwards - yes, but I do think now is not the time, particularly given the mass losses due to all the pockets. If we were flush with forces, by all means, start the meat-grinder/attrition engine, but we are not. If anything, we are desperately short of forces....

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RE: 2by3+ SOVIET SIDE ONLY, German dont enter. - 1/19/2018 11:46:23 PM

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quote:

ORIGINAL: Kratsch
I know I will get sent to the gulags, but I have strong reservations about the kamikaze attack order....We do not have the strength (yet) for that, and the disruption to our forces will make their attacks so much easier... In winter - yes; in 42 onwards -

If everyone feels the same, than so be it. But keep in mind that the Gulag is just a corner away Marshall Kratsch....

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RE: 2by3+ SOVIET SIDE ONLY, German dont enter. - 1/21/2018 11:54:31 PM

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I think you should hold a spot for me in the Gulag. I very much regret to say that I think we are now officially screwed. There wasn't anything I could do about the pocket up by Ilmen. I have a thin screen of brigades between his troops and the Lake Ladoga ports. After he takes them, he'll have Leningrad for the effort of launching a few attacks. And I have nothing to stop him in the north-center either.

Maybe we should re-start and call this a learning experience?

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RE: 2by3+ SOVIET SIDE ONLY, German dont enter. - 1/22/2018 12:10:09 AM

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We can still win this, just retreat from Leningrad if must be. but put out a fight. I dont think they are going to push much further after Leningrad. either way, we have lots of reinforcement coming our way but we need to stop loosing troops to pockets. 41 is never going to be good for the Soviets. We need to wait for Winter to arrive.

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RE: 2by3+ SOVIET SIDE ONLY, German dont enter. - 1/23/2018 8:16:18 PM

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Gents,

we are in dire straits here. If we want to have a chance, we need to get the absolute maximum out of everything we have.

I am just working on my file, and I cannot help but offering a few suggestions:

1. we need to shuffle air units with morale of less than 40 to the national reserve as the first thing each move - best for the Sup Com.

2. The same holds true for any air unit with a fatigue > 20.

Both will massively benefit us. In reverse, once units have their morale up, send back out.

3. Air needs to be placed cleverly. We have airbases packed full of short-range fighters sitting in the middle of nowhere 20 hexes behind the front... If no one wants them, please send them south instead of wasting them there where they will do nothing.

4. Please consider ship-transporting good value divisions out of the Leningrad pocket via Lake Ladoga; we those forces there bitterly! Several divisions could leave there this turn! Next turn, those Lake ports on the east short might be German, then everything in Leningrad will wither fast and for no gain....

5. Holding the second line with HQs is pointless. Once the front unit gets displaced and a German moves adjacent, the HQ gets displaced, losing stuff in the process. This is just asking to happen.

6. I left a list of suggestions for the middle sector already in a previous post. Please address as it will significantly strengthen the line for next to no effort!

7. Do not have units attached to STAVKA on the frontline! They get a hefty reduction in their CV for being attached to STAVKA. Attach them to your local front/front-armies, please!

8. Moscow air command is packed with air units doing there absolutely nothing! We need those 1800+ airframes at the front.

9. Large parts of my front have no fighter aircraft. I have spotted several unescorted supply runs by German Ju-52s to their spearhead. Those should get badly punished, but at present they are unharmed, leading to more MPs for their tanks, and hence higher losses for us.

10. Could I please request the exchange of several of my front commanders, particularly the 3/6 one for a 5/6; there are at least 2 to choose from.

The south is done.

I have not done any factory evacuation, as some of the above may result in some use of our train capacity.

Can I please leave all of the above to the implement/consider (pretty please), and also the evacuation, to our Supreme Leader before the file gets sent back to the Germans.

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RE: 2by3+ SOVIET SIDE ONLY, German dont enter. - 1/24/2018 12:21:32 AM

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The files were sent back to the German already. Those are things you need to discuss with us before doing the last turn. As we take a long time to do those files, I make it a priority to send them as as soon as they are ready.

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RE: 2by3+ SOVIET SIDE ONLY, German dont enter. - 1/24/2018 10:13:01 AM

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What? I don't get the sequence then. I thought the Sup Commander goes last?

And I DID post this in fact before uploading the file... And the other comments regarding the centre were made on the 19th, so 4 days before my file...

On the German team there are some of the most experienced sharks in the game, and we hurry to save 12 hrs and spend our time role-playing?!

There will be no 42 at this rate, which is a shame.

After the next German file which I think will see Leningrad isolated with the supply ports taken, the northern pocket destroyed, and either the entire centre cut off, or Germans east of Moscow we should seriously consider restarting this, as there will be little point continuing.

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RE: 2by3+ SOVIET SIDE ONLY, German dont enter. - 1/25/2018 12:11:02 AM

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Yeah that's unfortunate, because factory evac hasn't been done either yet. I also was pretty unsure about my defensive set up, I dragged as many troops to defend as possible, but I felt a little uncertain about whether I weaken my centre line or keep as is. I was kind of hoping for some advice, and maybe to make a few more movements based on that advice when I did the factory evacs. I mean with the amount of units we have (and the fact that so much of our troops were basically lined up parallel with the Pripyat marshes when I took over) Moscow looks really bad, and I'm just racing to get troops back. Sparkley's shift from south to North of Moscow really caught me off guard as well (which is probably my inexperience showing). Anyway, without the factory evacs planned for this turn, losing Moscow is really really going to hurt long term.

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RE: 2by3+ SOVIET SIDE ONLY, German dont enter. - 1/25/2018 5:29:04 AM

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(*edit : The axis will be done with their turn tomorrow. )

The factory evacuation need to be done during the turns. When I get handed over the turns from everyone, I expect everything to be done. Dont send in your files, if you haven't finished your turns.
Sup com is last, but all I do in the last turn is tinkle with the air force, and make sure all reinforcements were sent. Thats all thats being done when I receive the last file.

Ledo was made responsible for the factory evacuation, and each Marshall needs to tell him what factory they want evacuated. This is how we said it would be done. Now, if its not done, and no one tells me about it, I cant know.
I received notification for each turn done. When I get these notifications, I go directly in the game and do the last turn because I expect everything was done like it was supposed to be.

EDIT : Yes Iv just read about the evac not being done on the 19th. So thats my bad, but as of now, do the evac turn when you do your turn. Because, from the 19th January to the 23rh January, I have time to forget about these details. If a Marshall has not done everything on his turn, then dont send the file in the dropbox.

We hurry to save 12 hours yes, because our turns takes about a week or two to be done, while the Axis turn is done in about 1-3 days. (At this rate, we will be done playing the game in 5 years or so. So its still important to do the turns as quick as we can.) And this isn't one or two weeks of preparation and strategy talk on our side, its simply 1 or 2 weeks of waiting in silence for someone to do his turn. The Axis players are not veterans of the game either, they mention they had little experience before starting the game. I think two of them are completely new.

And Kratsch, while I understand your frustration with the present game, especially since when you and Ledo came in the game, we had just started being ****ed hard ( wich is a reason why the previous Marshall left ). But the game is not going to be restarted. I made a promise to the other team I would fight to the bitter end, and this is what Il do. It would suck if we were to abandon each game simply because its not going our way, also would not give a good reputation to the community next time we want to do another game and people wont want to play with us. You are welcome to do as you please, but please, stop telling us to abandon the game. Whats the point of playing the game if we cant hold it up together during the hard times. Its only 1941, we still got 5 years of war to go on and defeat the Germans. Its completely normal to be beaten in 1941 for the Soviet.

Its normal that we make some mistake here and there, after all, we just changed our whole team. We will get the hang of working together as the turn goes. Next turn guys, just do everything on your turn, and dont send the file as long as its not done.

The point of continuing the game is to take experience. Experience in defeat or in victory is still experience. In 1941, the Soviets didn't abandon, they fought, they died, they shared sweat and blood together and they kept defending the USSR. Yes, we have seen a lot of defeats, more than normal.We have seen our brothers and sisters being encircled and eliminated in gigantic pockets. We have lost a lot of our air forces, we have lost a lot of our divisions, but the fight is not over, as long as there is one army left to fight with, In memories of all the Soviet soldier who died at the hand of the Germans, we will continue defending the Motherland. We shall kill them in the fields, We shall take back our cities, We shall send bomb dog under their tanks, We shall dig deeper and deeper into the Soviet Union, We shall take back what is ours, and we will take back every single inch of land that the German rat has taken from us. Together, we will fight, Together we will go to Berlin, Together, we shall never surrender !

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RE: 2by3+ SOVIET SIDE ONLY, German dont enter. - 1/25/2018 8:10:13 AM

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Seriously? For roleplaying purposes, we did not even do the factory evacuation? Shall we maybe just disband a whole front or two next turn for some roleplaying punishment as well? The difference is not that much... Only that troops come back, factories don't...

Factory evac has to be the last thing done in each turn. How can you judge a priority if you don't know the final board position! It makes no sense for each section to do their bit, how are they to know how much rail capacity to use? It has to be a final central thing, everything just does not work.
I am writing all the mail to give some suggestions or advice. But if they are not read, or possibly implemented, what is the point?

If the point of the game is to see how much self-harm is needed to make it quick, I guess we are on the right road....

There will be no long war, this game is over at present rate in the next 10 turns or so. There is little point dragging something out which is a foregone conclusion. It cannot be fun for anyone (including the Germans) to play a game for several years (and that is what we are talking about after all at the overall pace!!) when everyone knows how it will end up, and the dragging out is done just to make a point. And certainly, no real interesting AAR will result from a game without any form of tension either.

No one might like this, but this game sadly is usually decided in 41. If the Germans are way behind, they will not last, so might as well restart, and book it as a learning experience. The same goes for the Russian. We are so badly behind already, and the factory evac is just there to top it off.... Let's see where we are in 2-3 turns, but if it is simply hopeless, and we roleplay for the sake of it, then I would strongly suggest to restart and redo 10 turns, instead of having 245 turns of a waste of time ahead.
Heck, in 42 or 43 we could forget to do an entire turn or two, and it would matter little overall. Here, screwing up part of a turn in 42 is catastrophic as the longterm impact is just so much. WE may not like this, but that is the way the game is built.

Only if there is a position in the middle ground at the end of 41, an interesting game can evolve. That is one of the reasons why I don't like the '41 scenario that much.

I do not like giving up games either, but idealism and dogmatism sometimes needs to give way to some realism.

Oh, and telemecus, and I believe Stelteck is on the German team as well, are both very experienced players who know the game well...

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RE: 2by3+ SOVIET SIDE ONLY, German dont enter. - 1/25/2018 8:45:08 AM

Neogodhobo

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ORIGINAL: Kratsch

Seriously? For roleplaying purposes, we did not even do the factory evacuation?

I dont know what you are talking about, no one is role playing. We didnt do the factory evac because I forgot we still had to do the factory evac and the Germans had already played their turn by the time I sent the file. Not because of role playing. Sadly, I have no idea what you are talking about when you talk about role playing.

I already mention that Factory Evac was top priority, so that means Ledo can use as much rail points as he wants, since I use every Rail points in the beginning of the turn to bring reinforcement in. We dont need rail point for nothing else but reinforcement and factory evac ( as far as I know )

Now in order to do the Factory evacuation, Ledo ask you guys to mention wich one needed to be evacuated and I believe he was never answered. So that needs to be addressed as well. Its the responsibility of each front commander to check out wich factory needs to be evacuated, and transmit the information to Ledo.

Then, for future reference, Ledo will be able to use whatever rail points he need to do so. Factory evacuation is top priority.

Anyway, we are not going to restart the game simply because we are losing it. Losing is part of playing a game.
If you dont want to play the game, thats fine. But please stop telling us to abandon the game every turn. The situation is bad, we all know this.

< Message edited by Neogodhobo -- 1/25/2018 8:55:57 AM >

(in reply to Kratsch)

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