HardLuckYetAgain
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So there has been much talk about the Soviet Airforce being overly powerful at the beginning of the game in more than just a few AAR's recently. Thus in recent games the Soviets have been able to cause some very good sustained numbers with their obsolete LB aircraft in Night bombing runs causing substantial fighter loses to the Germans(to a lesser extent day bombing raids). Starting on Turn 3 of this game I will initiate what I have eluded to in another AAR but difficult to convey to another my sentiments of how to handle the Soviets LB Night raids. Secondly I hope to show what the Germans need to do against CAP sweeps by the Soviets. Will I still take loses? Yes, I will still take loses but not to the extent the other German players did in their respective AARs against the Soviet masses. (will see if this still holds true or everyone else is correct in their assessments. I still feel the Germans can do things to alleviate the loses, we shall see)
The first thing that needs to be done is;
1. Stop flying interceptors at NIGHT. Yes, you heard me correctly. The Germans are the main cause of the exceptionally high fighter losses on their side when they fly night missions. (I do fly night mission and will show what I do after a turn or two after turn 3). But if previous games are a guide when I used this against MAD HATTER Soviet bomber players it makes it expensive for the Soviets and semi bearable to the Germans.
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To be continued...... (the other numbers 2-4, and there are more than 4, will be filled in over the turns for other Germans players willing to give it a try). Of course I'm sure there are other players that are better than me that has a better system to combat the Russian Hordes of aircraft. If they do have a way to deal with it feel free to post yours :). But until I initiate this on turn 3 and have results for this a turn or two after initiated you will just have to wait for me to fill in the rest of the numbers :). (I have posted mine in the past a couple of times & revised it to what it is today) But the primary one is stop flying damn night interception missions with your "BIG" squadrons (thats a hint to #2)
Can't wait for your tutorial HLYA!! :)
I though you would advice putting all those BF 110 for night missions, I mean as long as they are facing unescorted bombers, they should do a good job right?
Yes, I was the one that gave that advice and yes the BF110 is very efficient at shooting bombers down. I still stand by that advice. BUT what we have to look at are the numbers of interceptors that are being lost to these Soviet night bombers(and to a lesser effect the Soviet day bombers). In effect the Germans are losing too many fighters to the Soviet bombers that are coming in and bombing at night. As a German player you are going to have to control the loss of fighters as best you can. Thus my 1st thing I do is turn off all "night intercept" missions for all fighters. Germans flying night mission with their fighters is hazardous to their health. Now having said that I do fly night missions and those night missions are "By the Schwarms" (Damn, that would be a good book title!!!). So number 2 on my list is set up night mission "By the Schwarms" to do night operations interceptions. I fly (1) Bf110 schwarm and 2-3 BF-109 schwarms in the area of operation. I then rotate groups based on loses, fatigue, etc to keep them fresh. After a few turns of doing this the "Schwarms" will be in the 90+ experience and will become even more effective. Now just doing #1 and #2 isn't going to get you there. There are more parts to the story like, AA, AA placement (Yes, I figured this one out too of when they add to a battle. I'm sure others already knew), how many squadrons on an airbase, air settings etc etc to form a whole package.
Now I'm going to deviate for a minute here and say that Tyronec is correct that the Soviet bombers are doing too much damage. I set up a test bed and tested this out with over 50+ simulations over two days using mass bombers of the Soviets and the Germans. In this scenario the Soviets are bombing at night & the Germans by day. The Soviets night missions consisted of ~250-280 aircraft would destroy almost on par what ~390-450 German bombers would do during the day. Now the Germans delta variation was higher on occasions but the sheer numbers of Soviet aircraft the Soviets could fly and do damage far surpasses the Germans. Please note that "only" bombers were flown in an attempt to garner a base. I found this very interesting since to me the Germans and Soviets seem to be using the same "TO HIT" chart and "DAMAGE" chart for night/day. But this is all speculation on my part but the Soviets do seem to be pretty effective with LESS aircraft and EVEN AT NIGHT. I find this interesting. I will continue to test and I could just be doing my tests wrong. (only LB's were used in these test. But I do have the delta's for the Dive bombers and working out how many fighters to escort the Dive bombers to target and not lose aircraft now ;-). actually just confirming my numbers again in current patch :-)
< Message edited by HardLuckYetAgain -- 2/4/2018 5:27:05 PM >
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