John 3rd
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Sent to Dan a little while ago:
How about we try to do something for the benefit of the Forum and ‘stage’ some of what is being discussed on that air thread? We pick a target or two and you attack with your 4EB and we post the results in a joint thread. We can look at various items and considerations and add different experiments on a day-to-day basis. Ain’t gonna change the course of things and might provide some serious, real examples to work from on this topic.
John
Dan's Reply:
I'm willing, but let's wait until the game is done. Then we can step back a few weeks and run as many tests as we wish.
I know what we're going to find, and I think a lot of other players do too. Ground units in open terrain are in deep trouble; those on good defensive terrain and behind stout forts withstand attacks much better; lack of AA and fighter cover plays a key role.
What do you want? You have 1,500 fighters in Japan that you can commit in Korea...or not. You prefer to protect industry, and that's a valid choice. You could defend forward, but your losses would be heavy even while your army would be somewhat protected, and your industry would be more open to attack. Or you could play cat-and-mouse, sometimes protecting industry, sometimes ground troops, mixing things up and trying to bushwhack my bombers.
Do you think it's reasonable to devote 1,500 fighters to industry defense while leaving your ground units unprotected and then fuss about losses to ground troops? You are in far better shape in 1945 than the Japanese were but it's as though you think it ought to be an even match at this point.
In the war, the Allies conducted nearly all strategic bombing from Tinian and Saipan and hammered Tokyo. Imagine if I was bombing from those two bases alone. I'd have 1,000 strategic points and I'd have lost 80% of my B-29s Instead, I have level nine airfields in Korea with flush supply and a massive air force. Japan should be getting hammered. But your air force is still strong (in spots) and able to defend you industry, so I use my bombers elsewhere and avoid Tokyo and some other bases.
You are not being abused. You have options that work, though each has liabilities too. Other Japanese players make it work for them. You're going to lose, but you are not defenseless. It's just that you've weighted everything on industry defense and are paying some costs for that.
Neither you nor I harbor any ill will for the other. There's no rancor or anger on my part. There is some frustration, but that too is true of the real war. Montgomery thought Anderson was an idiot; Anderson thought Bradley was a fool; Bradley couldn't stand the ideas of Mark Clark; Mark Clark thought Eisenhower was naïve, and on and on. But it does bother me that here at the end of a long, well-played, challenging game, Japanese fans are going to pop out of the bushes and proclaim how I abused the game through 4EB and Death Star.
Men of knowledge, experience and ability can question or doubt the methods of others. Sometimes the complaints are valid. Many times they aren't. But good men sometimes don't see eye to eye. That's the case with us here. We see things differently. So we work through the rough patches, survive memorable experiences, and then gather afterwards to laugh about the good, the bad, the ugly, the indifferent.
How about we try to do something for the benefit of the Forum and ‘stage’ some of what is being discussed on that air thread? W pick a target or two and you attack with your 4EB and we post the results in a joint thread. We can look at various items and considerations and add different experiments on a day-to-day basis. Ain’t gonna change the course of things and might provide some serious, real examples to work from on this topic.
< Message edited by John 3rd -- 2/14/2018 1:40:07 AM >
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