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RE: Soviets Activated.... - 4/16/2018 4:51:33 AM   
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Weather was rain for IJN strike, and partial cloud for the ABDA strike.

30 minutes warning for the Allies, only 15 minutes for the KB.



So the CAP ...
15 mins ... 80 AC showed up, so at best 1/3 aloft, 1/3 on ready 5, the rest 20 mins. So 27 aloft, and 27 more able to attain altitude in time ...
but what if they did a Midway ... got sucked down to the TB's and didn't interfere enough with the DB\s before they tip over ....
all conjecture as there isn't enough detail here, but certainly looks as though something bad happened ...

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RE: Soviets Activated.... - 4/16/2018 5:21:42 PM   
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Dud, I guess.




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RE: Soviets Activated.... - 4/16/2018 5:22:16 PM   
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RE: Soviets Activated.... - 4/16/2018 5:24:22 PM   
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About 12 bombers get thru, 2 hits total on 2 diff carriers, Shoho will probably burn up.

Allied surface fleets expected to surge into Cam Ranh Bay and Saigon tonight, along with 30-40 subs.








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RE: Soviets Activated.... - 4/16/2018 5:25:29 PM   
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RE: Soviets Activated.... - 4/16/2018 5:26:12 PM   
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RE: Soviets Activated.... - 4/17/2018 6:10:36 PM   
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Here a sub. There a sub.

Subs, subs, subs, .... subs, subs, subs! There are green subs here. There are brown subs there. Here a red sub!




The Shoho is burning! Other carriers are flooding! Oh my!

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RE: Soviets Activated.... - 4/17/2018 6:13:37 PM   
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Pumps are failing on the Shoho! I bet the fires are burning bright, a beacon to the subs that want to come and kiss her in the night!

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RE: Soviets Activated.... - 4/17/2018 6:16:20 PM   
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Status: offline 		Hey another sub! Will wonders never cease? Actually, they won't because 3 PBs piloted by scrubs actually put three more hits on this sub in a few minutes before running out of ASW ammo.




Breaking news...this just in...flash...pumps fail again on the Shoho!

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RE: Soviets Activated.... - 4/17/2018 6:20:28 PM   
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Status: offline 		Some sweeps...first sentai does well, 2nd and 3rd Sentais form up and coordinate and come off a little worse for the effort. Each side loses 20 or so.

The Iboat sent to pick up pilots blunders into a mine and now has 93% flooding. Oh my! It is a good thing I really enjoy trying to save stricken IJN ships.

I don't see it, but I bet the Shoho is still burning and her pumps are failing some more.




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RE: Soviets Activated.... - 4/17/2018 6:21:45 PM   
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RE: Soviets Activated.... - 4/17/2018 6:25:53 PM   
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The Shoho! Brave Shoho! Shepherded by two destroyers low on fuel (and ASW cans) breaks off and makes for Saigon, and her shipyard, and her naval repairmen that have cushy barracks made by the French.

Oh, so close to foundering. So close.

Gee, all the subs show up during the day...the KB makes Cam Ranh Bay.




All those Allied subs. Dutch, British, Yank and Red...so frustrated they didn't get to kiss anyone last night...

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RE: Soviets Activated.... - 4/17/2018 6:31:17 PM   
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RE: Soviets Activated.... - 4/17/2018 6:32:56 PM   
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RE: Soviets Activated.... - 4/17/2018 6:37:11 PM   
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RE: Soviets Activated.... - 4/17/2018 6:41:39 PM   
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RE: Soviets Activated.... - 4/17/2018 7:32:57 PM   
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RE: Soviets Activated.... - 4/17/2018 7:37:35 PM   
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Status: offline 		But how many more 500 lb bombs from B-17s will it take to sink Shoho?? Beef up that night CAP!

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RE: Soviets Activated.... - 4/17/2018 8:43:55 PM   
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But how many more 500 lb bombs from B-17s will it take to sink Shoho?? Beef up that night CAP!


Seeing how she isn't a Russian sub, I bet she would sink if hit by a broadsheet from a propaganda run.

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RE: Soviets Activated.... - 4/18/2018 2:42:30 AM   
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But how many more 500 lb bombs from B-17s will it take to sink Shoho?? Beef up that night CAP!


Seeing how she isn't a Russian sub, I bet she would sink if hit by a broadsheet from a propaganda run.



Sounds about right.


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RE: Soviets Activated.... - 4/18/2018 7:16:28 AM   
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Status: offline 		I'm guessing, and its only a guess is that you put enough hurt on carrier planes to mean he's got to RTB, and he wanted to make sure he had enough escorts to do it, and that meant he didn't have enough to surge after you.

Oh, and he probably thought that you might (not that you'd do anything THAT sneeky!) have every Betty and Nell you have waiting for him to do exactly that.

Well done on the Shoho!

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RE: Soviets Activated.... - 4/18/2018 1:17:23 PM   
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We shall see what happens.

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RE: Soviets Activated.... - 4/18/2018 2:30:52 PM   
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Status: offline 		Curious question, from the idjit in the back of the room. I see your bombardment included BB's, CA's, and CL's. I was of the impression that, similar to SAG composition you did not try to mix these types up. Am I operating under (yet another) mistaken idea?

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RE: Soviets Activated.... - 4/18/2018 3:09:52 PM   
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Curious question, from the idjit in the back of the room. I see your bombardment included BB's, CA's, and CL's. I was of the impression that, similar to SAG composition you did not try to mix these types up. Am I operating under (yet another) mistaken idea?


A shore bombardment run, with little chance of running into enemy shipping is perfectly fine to get as many guns onto the beach.


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RE: Soviets Activated.... - 4/18/2018 4:01:58 PM   
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Status: offline 		Has Shoho sys damage dropped any? 97 is danger close to even a tiny game random event destroying the ship.

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RE: Soviets Activated.... - 4/18/2018 6:28:56 PM   
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Has Shoho sys damage dropped any? 97 is danger close to even a tiny game random event destroying the ship.


I can remember once having the Chicago in port at Java, with 99 sys damage hit daily by bombs and not sinking...against the AI.

Anyhow, have to wait for the next turn to see what happens to her. I suspect the minor flooding will get pumped first...perhaps not. It is up to the repair manager to determine the fix priority.

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RE: Soviets Activated.... - 4/18/2018 8:25:03 PM   
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Has Shoho sys damage dropped any? 97 is danger close to even a tiny game random event destroying the ship.


I can remember once having the Chicago in port at Java, with 99 sys damage hit daily by bombs and not sinking...against the AI.

Anyhow, have to wait for the next turn to see what happens to her. I suspect the minor flooding will get pumped first...perhaps not. It is up to the repair manager to determine the fix priority.


Is it?
The manual 14.2.1.1 doesn't make it sound like there is much "determining by the repair manager" but a very simple and fixed order.

Or has this been changed later?

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RE: Soviets Activated.... - 4/18/2018 8:30:20 PM   
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Status: offline 		The Shoho had 40 fires from taking the 1000 pounder thru the flight deck.

I will take a snapshot of her damage over time with the next turn.

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RE: Soviets Activated.... - 4/18/2018 8:32:39 PM   
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Read Alfred's excellent ship repair 101 for details. Time for me to re-read it as it is chock full of facts that I frequently forget that I knew once.



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RE: Soviets Activated.... - 4/18/2018 8:53:56 PM   
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