Slitherine

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ORIGINAL: SparkleyTits

Well if I may I would say that isn't an issue of balance and more a design choice on allowing players to have more creative control over their forces as that kind of thing works the same for both sides

Later into the game Soviets can pour every single available mobile & armour element they have into one point which was never done by the USSR, that can & does create havoc for Axis too but it's up to the players to adapt to those kind of choices in a game like this while the mechanics under the hood are where the balancing should/would/could/does occur

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ORIGINAL: HardLuckYetAgain

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ORIGINAL: elloboloco

If you want to balance the game why not stop the gamey and a-historical use of 2nd panzer army units in the south to create a pocket all the way to the Romanian border. Read any accounts of the fighting on Army Group South's front and it is full of the fierce fighting in this sector. It took the Germans a few days just to break through the frontier defenses. The battle of Brody (look it up) held up the German advance from June 26th to June 30th. Many historians consider this the largest tank battle of the war. In addition, German battle reports speak of early summer rain's turning the roads into quagmires. My point is, the game would be much more balanced if the Russians were able to save some of the units that are just written off on the first German move before the Soviet has a chance to do anything. While large battles of encirclement happened in the center, the first in the South did not happen until 15 July to 8 August at the battle of Uman. Where the 6th and 12th armies were captured anyhow. Sorry about rambling on. It has always bothered me that the Germans are able to make that move.

I tell you what, how about a game where I play the Germans and I don't attack in the South at all the first turn with Army Group South. Only Army Group North and Center for the first turn. Heck, I wont even do aircraft bombing for the first turn to save you all the lost aircraft. That way you can save all the units you want from the South move them where you want plus have your 100% complement of Aircraft for the Soviets. I will start turn 1 with 0 Soviet aircraft killed. I will even make it even more crazy by saying I won't do a penetration in the south more than 10 hexes on the 2nd turn. Nanananana lets make it I can't make a pocket in the south on the 2nd turn. Forget the penetration more than 10 hexes and make a pocket on the 2nd tuyrn. Lets go even better, lets just say I can only do attacks on the 1st line of defense of the Soviets without penetrating that line for turn 2 & 3 in the south.. Yeah, I like that one better. That should be an interesting and challenging game for you as the Soviets. How about that? Interested?

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ORIGINAL: morvael

Thinking about this:

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ORIGINAL: morvael

Well, I want to remove morale changes for battles in which no ground changes ownership, and Soviets will not get extra losses for failed attacks in the period 6/41-8/41. All in order to promote aggressive style and increase battle losses (not by increasing losses in individual battle, but by increasing the number of battles).

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ORIGINAL: GamesaurusRex

I've played the Russian side of the Grand Campaign now repeatedly for five years versus Wheat (who is an expert level Panzer Baller) through all patches since 1.07.

I am fortunate enough to have time to pursue this "hobby"and I was fortunate enough to be personally advised by the likes of Flavius, Pelton, and others about the numerous quirks of the game that the Russian could use to improve unit strength.
After all of that, I have come to a conclusion.

CONCLUSION: Don't play the Russian side... unless the German player has no clue what the game is about.

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ORIGINAL: chaos45

IDK where this magical 170k soviet replacements per month in 1942 comes from......The Average against a German player that does anywhere near historical/normal in WiTE should have the soviet player around 100k replacements per week in 1942.

If the Soviet player was getting 170k per week in 1942 the game would be alot easier for the soviets to win lol.....and if the German player failed so bad in 1941 that the soviet player was somehow generating 170k per week in 1942 its game over for the Germans for almost a certainty.

Its what makes 1942 hard as the Soviets as your factories are just getting back to 100% operation from the 1941 moves, and your only getting around 100k replacements while a good german player can chew up around that many a week esp when you consider how high soviet attrition losses are due to low morale/exp in 1942.

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ORIGINAL: morvael

Well, I want to remove morale changes for battles in which no ground changes ownership, and Soviets will not get extra losses for failed attacks in the period 6/41-8/41. All in order to promote aggressive style and increase battle losses (not by increasing losses in individual battle, but by increasing the number of battles).