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Definitive answer to the debate about chickens and eggs - 5/4/2018 10:41:53 AM   
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RE: Definitive answer to the debate about chickens and ... - 5/4/2018 10:51:17 AM   
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RE: Definitive answer to the debate about chickens and ... - 5/6/2018 12:55:26 PM   
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Status: offline 		As a poultry veterinarian, I would always get the brunt of any "clever" poultry-themed jokes that people thought were novel enough to share. The "which came first, the chicken or the egg?" quip was one of the more common. My preferred response was to launch into a boring phylogenetic profile of the development of the calcified externally-laid egg and explain how phylogeny recapitulates ontology. Get their eyes to glaze over with such boring-ass discussions. Relate how class Aves descended from class Reptilia in the fossil record. Explain how calcified, externally-laid eggs were around for tens (hundreds?) of millions of years before chickens came about.

Lastly, I would tell them that it would be a much more interesting metaphysical question if someone asked, "Which came first, the chicken or the chicken egg?" But no one ever does.

ETA: There's also the (*yawn*) response "The rooster." to the initial poser.

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RE: Definitive answer to the debate about chickens and ... - 5/6/2018 2:23:05 PM   
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Lastly, I would tell them that it would be a much more interesting metaphysical question if someone asked, "Which came first, the chicken or the chicken egg?" But no one ever does.

I have always taken it as implied that it is a chicken egg in the question. In Sweden, when we do not specify what kind of egg it is, it almost always is a chicken egg. For example, I have never heard of anyone told to go and buy eggs and then got back with crocodile eggs.

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RE: Definitive answer to the debate about chickens and ... - 5/6/2018 2:24:21 PM   
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RE: Definitive answer to the debate about chickens and ... - 5/6/2018 4:47:13 PM   
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So, which came first, the chicken, or the chicken egg?





An evolving bird on the way to becoming a chicken with the embryo inside of the produced egg being one more step toward an actual chicken as we know it to today.

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RE: Definitive answer to the debate about chickens and ... - 5/6/2018 6:02:33 PM   
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Lastly, I would tell them that it would be a much more interesting metaphysical question if someone asked, "Which came first, the chicken or the chicken egg?" But no one ever does.

I have always taken it as implied that it is a chicken egg in the question. In Sweden, when we do not specify what kind of egg it is, it almost always is a chicken egg. For example, I have never heard of anyone told to go and buy eggs and then got back with crocodile eggs.


Ah. But do you in Sweden know what happens when you 'assume'?

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RE: Definitive answer to the debate about chickens and ... - 5/6/2018 6:05:45 PM   
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Lastly, I would tell them that it would be a much more interesting metaphysical question if someone asked, "Which came first, the chicken or the chicken egg?" But no one ever does.


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So, which came first, the chicken, or the chicken egg?





I typically ignore that question, as they already had their 'free shot'.

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RE: Definitive answer to the debate about chickens and ... - 5/6/2018 6:30:35 PM   
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RE: Definitive answer to the debate about chickens and ... - 5/6/2018 6:30:50 PM   
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RE: Definitive answer to the debate about chickens and ... - 5/6/2018 8:26:25 PM   
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Lastly, I would tell them that it would be a much more interesting metaphysical question if someone asked, "Which came first, the chicken or the chicken egg?" But no one ever does.

I have always taken it as implied that it is a chicken egg in the question. In Sweden, when we do not specify what kind of egg it is, it almost always is a chicken egg. For example, I have never heard of anyone told to go and buy eggs and then got back with crocodile eggs.


Ah. But do you in Sweden know what happens when you 'assume'?


When you assume you get fire, the wheel, powered flight, men on the moon, rovers on mars, computers, automobiles, irrigation, pumped water, medicine, etc., etc., etc.


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RE: Definitive answer to the debate about chickens and ... - 5/7/2018 8:57:39 AM   
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RE: Definitive answer to the debate about chickens and ... - 5/7/2018 3:14:13 PM   
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Eventually, humans built roads and it is a matter of debate as to what happened then.

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RE: Definitive answer to the debate about chickens and ... - 5/7/2018 3:15:46 PM   
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RE: Definitive answer to the debate about chickens and ... - 5/7/2018 3:39:13 PM   
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RE: Definitive answer to the debate about chickens and ... - 5/7/2018 4:06:55 PM   
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Something (that wasn't a chicken) laid the egg from which the first chicken came. Ergo - the egg.

Although this depends on how we define chicken and chicken egg.

If it isn't a chicken, can it have the ability to lay chicken eggs? Doesn't it lay something eggs that a chicken is born from?

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RE: Definitive answer to the debate about chickens and ... - 5/7/2018 5:18:20 PM   
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RE: Definitive answer to the debate about chickens and ... - 5/7/2018 5:20:20 PM   
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RE: Definitive answer to the debate about chickens and ... - 5/7/2018 7:56:18 PM   
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Something (that wasn't a chicken) laid the egg from which the first chicken came. Ergo - the egg.

Although this depends on how we define chicken and chicken egg.

If it isn't a chicken, can it have the ability to lay chicken eggs? Doesn't it lay something eggs that a chicken is born from?

The question doesn't say "chicken egg" just "egg". There are 1000s of breeds that can lay eggs. If the Q is chicken egg, then by definition is must be laid by a chicken, and so the answer is equally simple.

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RE: Definitive answer to the debate about chickens and ... - 5/7/2018 8:30:37 PM   
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Something (that wasn't a chicken) laid the egg from which the first chicken came. Ergo - the egg.

Although this depends on how we define chicken and chicken egg.

If it isn't a chicken, can it have the ability to lay chicken eggs? Doesn't it lay something eggs that a chicken is born from?

The question doesn't say "chicken egg" just "egg". There are 1000s of breeds that can lay eggs. If the Q is chicken egg, then by definition is must be laid by a chicken, and so the answer is equally simple.

I am sorry about that.

For me, it is just uninteresting if it is a generic egg in the question. In Sweden it is always implied that it is a chicken egg when asking that question. The original question is around two thousand years old and I have no idea how the exact wording of the question were.

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RE: Definitive answer to the debate about chickens and ... - 5/7/2018 8:31:05 PM   
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RE: Definitive answer to the debate about chickens and ... - 5/7/2018 10:20:48 PM   
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I find it interesting that the Swedish Wikipedia page has a different answer on the question than the English page has.

The chicken would no doubt give a different answer than the egg.

Ask Alfred - he probably designed them both.

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RE: Definitive answer to the debate about chickens and ... - 5/8/2018 12:21:39 AM   
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