Slitherine

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ORIGINAL: Rusty1961

Hey thanks for this AAR. I'm really enjoying it.

England expects that every man will do his duty. Horatio Nelson October 1805

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ORIGINAL: Szilard

This inspired me to actually RTFM to work out what goes on ...

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Section 9.1.10:

"Units of Formations failing a Formation Quality
Check at the beginning of a Turn are considered
to be Reorganizing and will only be available for
non-combat orders. They will accept all other
orders, and they will Defend normally, but are not
available for launching Attacks or Bombardments.
Formation Quality is the average of the
Formation’s Proficiency and average assigned
unit Quality. Formation Quality is reduced if
many units are divided. The Formation passes the
Quality Check if this value is greater than a random
number from 1 to 100, or [?? presumably this should be "and"]

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if the number of units that
experienced severe combat results in the previous
Turn is smaller than a random number from 1 to
the number of units in the Formation."

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And:


19.1.2. Unit Quality Calculation
Quality = (2 x proficiency + readiness) / 3


So: The 51st Div has formation proficiency of 70 and all of its assigned units appear to start out at 70 also. At 100% unit readiness, average Unit Quality = (2*70+100)/3 = 80. Which gives Formation Quality = average(70,80) = 75. So the division has a 25% chance of re-org each turn. Modulo increases in unit proficiency, reductions in readiness and severe combat results. And modulo loss of div HQ and losses to support squads.

To me, that seems too high for a good quality C'wealth division. I think British C&C failings should include a Force Proficiency aspect. Something like re-org check against average of Formation Quality and Force Proficiency. At the moment, Force Proficiency mainly impacts early turn endings.

Anyway, it would have been nice if after all these years, the system would allow for both Force and Formation Proficiency to be varied via events, reflecting eg Monty arriving to hand out cigs, tidy up the lesser mortals' messes & take a grip on things.

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ORIGINAL: Curtis Lemay

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ORIGINAL: Szilard

This inspired me to actually RTFM to work out what goes on ...

Gotta understand TFM, too.

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Section 9.1.10:

"Units of Formations failing a Formation Quality
Check at the beginning of a Turn are considered
to be Reorganizing and will only be available for
non-combat orders. They will accept all other
orders, and they will Defend normally, but are not
available for launching Attacks or Bombardments.
Formation Quality is the average of the
Formation’s Proficiency and average assigned
unit Quality. Formation Quality is reduced if
many units are divided. The Formation passes the
Quality Check if this value is greater than a random
number from 1 to 100, or [?? presumably this should be "and"]

Nope. Both checks must fail. This is combat reorganization - reorganization due to heavy combat. A formation that hasn't been in combat can't suffer combat reorganization.

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if the number of units that
experienced severe combat results in the previous
Turn is smaller than a random number from 1 to
the number of units in the Formation."

So, if the formation has about 20 units, and, let's say 5 of them have had heavy combat losses, this check is 25% odds, too. Those two probabilities are multiplied together to get the true odds.


Curtis,

That makes sense, but I have had units that have not been in any combat for a couple of turns go into reorg mode. That should not be happening based on my understanding of the rules.

Thanks for your explanation, it is really helpful,



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Mike

Retired Gunner

(in reply to Curtis Lemay)

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ORIGINAL: MikeJ19

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ORIGINAL: Curtis Lemay

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ORIGINAL: Szilard

This inspired me to actually RTFM to work out what goes on ...

Gotta understand TFM, too.

quote:

Section 9.1.10:

"Units of Formations failing a Formation Quality
Check at the beginning of a Turn are considered
to be Reorganizing and will only be available for
non-combat orders. They will accept all other
orders, and they will Defend normally, but are not
available for launching Attacks or Bombardments.
Formation Quality is the average of the
Formation’s Proficiency and average assigned
unit Quality. Formation Quality is reduced if
many units are divided. The Formation passes the
Quality Check if this value is greater than a random
number from 1 to 100, or [?? presumably this should be "and"]

Nope. Both checks must fail. This is combat reorganization - reorganization due to heavy combat. A formation that hasn't been in combat can't suffer combat reorganization.

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if the number of units that
experienced severe combat results in the previous
Turn is smaller than a random number from 1 to
the number of units in the Formation."

So, if the formation has about 20 units, and, let's say 5 of them have had heavy combat losses, this check is 25% odds, too. Those two probabilities are multiplied together to get the true odds.


Curtis,

That makes sense, but I have had units that have not been in any combat for a couple of turns go into reorg mode. That should not be happening based on my understanding of the rules.

Thanks for your explanation, it is really helpful,